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Centrist Women Tell of Disenchantment With G.O.P.
New York Times ^ | March 10, 2012 | SUSAN SAULNY

Posted on 03/11/2012 3:39:18 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

...somewhere between the baby name game and the gifts, what had been light conversation took a sharp turn toward the personal and political — specifically, the battle over access to birth control and other women’s health issues that have sprung to life on the Republican campaign trail in recent weeks.

“We all agreed that this seemed like a throwback to 40 years ago,” said Ms. Russell, 57, a retired teacher from Iowa City who describes herself as an evangelical Christian and “old school” Republican of the moderate mold.

Until the baby shower, just two weeks ago, she had favored Mitt Romney for president.

Not anymore. She said she might vote for President Obama now. “I didn’t realize I had a strong viewpoint on this until these conversations,” Ms. Russell said. As for the Republican presidential candidates, she added: “If they’re going to decide on women’s reproductive issues, I’m not going to vote for any of them. Women’s reproduction is our own business.”

.....Rick Santorum, a former senator from Pennsylvania who is one of Mr. Romney’s rivals for the nomination, created a tempest late last month by speaking out against prenatal testing. Earlier comments about women in combat and the role of “radical feminism” in encouraging work outside the home also left some women ill at ease.

“Everybody is so busy telling us how we should act in the bedroom, they’re letting the country fall through the cracks,” said Fran Kelley, a retired public school worker in Seattle who voted for Senator John McCain over Mr. Obama in the 2008 election. Of the Republican candidates this year, she added, “They’re nothing but hatemongers trying to control everyone, saying, ‘Live as I live.’...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: conservatism; freedom; gopprimary; msm
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To: going hot

Every 4 years we get this but never any rats who will vote for the GOP sigh


61 posted on 03/11/2012 7:38:45 AM PDT by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: jazzlite

Unless I over looked it I can not tell if she been married by reading the story.


62 posted on 03/11/2012 7:38:45 AM PDT by KingNo155
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To: hal ogen

OR, they completely change the subject the discussion was about... and expect you to re-itereate what you JUST said/explained...brain dead, indeed they are.


63 posted on 03/11/2012 7:43:23 AM PDT by gibsosa
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To: ladyrustic

Most people I know, family and/or acquaintences, are living their lives as conservatives— (for the most part) yet as you say, repeat whatever the lying MSM tells them, and believe it. No amount of simple explanation will tell them differently. Quite sad, and scary for the future.


64 posted on 03/11/2012 7:46:21 AM PDT by gibsosa
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To: jch10

Knowing personally some of the teachers I have to deal with, I have tried, believe me. They have made it very hard. There are VERY few at the school I do tech work at that aren’t spoiled, selfish, entitled morons. The few I know at the school that have their head on straight are the principal, administrator, and the maintanence man...


65 posted on 03/11/2012 7:51:00 AM PDT by gibsosa
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To: vaudine

Nice to see a freeper who gets it rather then the “oh no, we need to be more liberal so we don’t lose such strong republican voters”

I can’t believe there are people still falling for this bs.


66 posted on 03/11/2012 7:52:20 AM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I don’t buy that these women are evangelicals and “old school” Repubs in the first place. But idiots like this who choose a candidate based solely on their reproductive organs make me think Neal Boortz had a point when he said women shouldn’t be allowed to vote.


67 posted on 03/11/2012 7:57:05 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: sport
"That is what I think each time I see a obama sticker. “Another idiot”.Also I see more of them on vehicles occupied by White people than I do on vehicles occupied by Black people."

Yes, same here. Also, if they're female, they're unattractive and look dumber than dirt.

68 posted on 03/11/2012 7:59:02 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

‘Centrist’, As defined by whom?


69 posted on 03/11/2012 8:08:40 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: afraidfortherepublic

You are right about former teachers. Many thought they were vastly underpaid while they taught, and now they feel cheated with underpaid retirement checks as well. In some states, raises are rare for teacher retirees. They do believe that there is a government solution to most problems. Many also resent being ineligible for Social Security in many situations.


70 posted on 03/11/2012 8:09:20 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Mathematically, it's all over, says Mittens.)
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To: NHResident

Interesting line, but do you think these “educators” in some cases resent NOT having had abortions when they were less socially popular?


71 posted on 03/11/2012 8:13:05 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Mathematically, it's all over, says Mittens.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Talk about silly. You just walked into this NYT obvious 0bama spin article and accepted it as truth. It's not. This is a winning issue for the GOP - and it is about religious freedom, not contraception. We are not losing women over this; Pinch just wants you to believe we are.

Unlike you, I actually am involved in this process and review private polls each week that show me the lay of the land. The GOP is currently hemmorraging female votes. Stay in denial if you wish. Of course the NYT is propagandizing this to attract the idiot RINO women who read that rag. But beneath that is the underlying truth that the current crop of amateurs running for the nomination, and running the party have thus far completely lost an issue they ought to have won.

72 posted on 03/11/2012 8:15:04 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Mrs. Russell...an evangelical Christian who is pro-abortion. A retired school teacher of the old mold, moderate Republican....most likely she’s just moldy.


73 posted on 03/11/2012 8:18:13 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: jazzlite
"Russell"

I find it amusing (and sad) that she describes herself as an evangelical Christian but strongly believes in abortion. How many evangelical Christians are pro-abortion to the point that's their number one issue? Over the economy, national defense, and religious freedom. Mrs. Russell is a moral moron.

74 posted on 03/11/2012 8:22:28 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

And so it begins. The election year liberal media campaign of disenfranchised “republican” women/minorities who “might” or will be voting for the democrat instead. And their “reasons” are always the usual liberal talking points right out of the DNC handbook. It never fails. Now let’s see them interview disenfranchised democrats who will be voting republican. I won’t hold my breath.


75 posted on 03/11/2012 8:22:36 AM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So the NYT’s in its diligent reporting manages to find a few nitwits out of 3 million Americans. Note they are retired school teachers. Boy I was going to vote republican this election but the New York Times tells me everyone is voting Obama. I don’t want to seem like I think for myself so I’ll vote Democratic.


76 posted on 03/11/2012 8:26:43 AM PDT by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: lowbridge

remember the PUMAs?

They didn’t get much press in ‘08.
I can’t imagine they’ve completely disappeared

I haven’t seen any articles about the women who are sick and tired of angry/bitter/anti-baby/anti-men shrill liberal women pretending they speak for all women.


77 posted on 03/11/2012 8:26:57 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Altura Ct.

“‘Centrist’, As defined by whom?”

Fidel Castro.


78 posted on 03/11/2012 8:41:41 AM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
...the battle over access to birth control...

I wonder where this "centrist" is getting her information. WHO is trying to block anyone's "access to birth control"? I haven't heard anything about that in any of this garbage. To be an informed voter, you can't rely on 30 second soundbites from Barry's MSM propaganda machine to give you the truth. No one has said anything about controlling her "reproductive rights". This article in the Slimes is nothing but commie 'RAT propaganda. Women can have all of the "birth control" they want. The taxpayers just don't want to have to pay for it. The Planned Parent Hoods will gladly give them all of the pills and abortions they want.

79 posted on 03/11/2012 8:54:03 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time for Americans to WEAN the government off of OUR money!!!)
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To: montag813
National polls like this ... SHOCK POLL: ROMNEY 48% OBAMA 43% [Drudge 'Pimping For Willard' Headline]

would suggest that the GOP is NOT "currently hemmorraging female voters."

However, that said, I think we both agree that Rick Santorum has completely blown this issue, which we should easily win and thus Rick may be hemmorraging female voters. The answer though is not to avoid the issue, but vote Newt and WIN IT! Go Bama and Mississippi!

80 posted on 03/11/2012 9:30:36 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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