Posted on 03/08/2012 7:35:50 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather
RUSH: Now, this health story. The website's called Signs of the Times, and the story here is by Dr. Dwight Lundell. "Heart Surgeon Speaks Out On What Really Causes Heart Disease." The upshot of it is that everything that we think we're doing to promote cardiovascular health is actually contributing to cardiovascular problems. This story prints out six pages. The doctor wrote it. So many times I have mentioned over the years about diet, health, food, how we are being manipulated by government goals, wrong medical ideas. Food activists with a logo and a fax machine putting out bogus information to the media, and they just run with it. As long as it contains "government has to step in to save us," then they'll be happy to promote whatever the lying data is.
So what we have here is a heart surgeon who is saying that he and his profession have been wrong for decades. This experiment with statins and low-fat diets has not worked. He says it's time to move on to another way. I'll give you some pull quotes before getting to the story. "Despite the fact that 25% of the population takes expensive statin medications and despite the fact we have reduced the fat content of our diets, more Americans will die this year of heart disease than ever before."
Another pull quote. "I saw it in over 5,000 surgical patients spanning 25 years who all shared one common denominator -- inflammation in their arteries." Not blockage, inflammation.
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I agree with you about the line you quoted. But this doctor also sites inflammation as the cause of heart disease. Very interesting.
People with genetic syndromes that lead to very high cholesterol levels have a markedly increased incidence of coronary disease, and mutations in specific cholesterol metabolism genes in mice leads to cholesterol deposits in their arteries.
The bottom line is that cholesterol levels are a significant risk factor for coronary disease, unquestionably. That doesn't mean there aren't other important risk factors. There clearly are, including high blood pressure, smoking, and genetics.
The statins, incidentally, have been shown to decrease vascular inflammation.
Wow! Thanks for the info!
Breatharians... oh good grief. That’s where eccentric veers off into sheer stupid.
A food with more than five ingredients... good grief you could never eat anything breaded with bread crumbs. And there are something like eighty separate wicked chemicals in a cup of natural tea, although helpfully furnished by nature together in the tea leaf or through its fermentation or brewing.
Hmmm...
You're welcome to my share.
there's a reason up to 30 countries have banned GMO seed/food in their countries.
And a reason people/states have such a hard time in the US - Monsanto is an American chemical company and they own our politicians. Indeed many politicians, when leaving office, go to work for Monsanto and many Monsanto people get jobs in such places as the FDA -
Enjoy your chemicals. It's a free country.
There is much that Big Pharma and medicine do not tell us.
I and my wife are 85, neither of us use prescription medications. 35 years ago we were told to never buy a food with more than 5 ingredients. We read labels and try to abide by this.
16 years ago I moved from sea level to 5000 feet elevation.
Within 45 days I had a heart attack. They drilled out my left descending artery and told me that if I had stayed at sea level that artery would have closed and I would have died.
I started Chelation (intravenous feeding of EDTA). Took 24 treatments every other week and then a monthly treatment. I have not been to a “Heart Doctor” in all that time. My blood pressure is normal(I work at it)I try to eat right but am not perfect. The AMA says Chelation doesn’t work but I have talked to dozens of heart patients taking Chelation to know they are wrong. The NIH did a 3 year study of Chelation, one patient died so they quit. If they proved it did work many hospitals would go bankrupt, the heart is the mainstay of hospitals.
Before going to a doctor for anything I go to the internet to look up natural treatments and foods for my problem.
Just some thoughts. It is hard for me to understand why all medications have side effects, some seriously, and they just mask symptons and do not cure anything.
Your share of what. Of hysterical knee jerking?
There might be valid farming reasons to avoid growing Frankencorn, such as the ease of contaminating the genetic stock of normal corn which is then brought under the patent jackboot (a lose-lose), but you cannot produce evidence that the Franken in the corn gets you more than a hardier plant, and certainly not a modified oil content. And even the Frankenfood has to be compared with not being able to get any food because the normal corn was not productive enough.
Wow, maybe Linbaugh is waking up!
Its getting to the point that close to half of the people are aware that “mainstream medicine” is a death caucus.
Nanny State PING!
that crazy breatharian housewife would literally cry when stomach pains forced her to eat...she thought it was because she was sinful or not meditating right, etc...she was big boned and didn’t look anorexic at a distance, but close-up her skin was just hanging on her and she looked 35 going on 65
i have never met a vegan or strict vegetarian who was the picture of health...ever...and their attitudes and demeanor were far from high-minded and holy in the ones i met
i kind of liked the fruitarian idea on paper, maybe i just liked fruit...but after 48hrs i’d had enough...i met the most gorgeous girl who wanted me to come with her to Antelope OR and live with the Bagwan...but to get the girl she wanted me to follow a macrobiotic diet...which according to her was brown rice every day and maybe bean sprouts for christmas if you were good...
well, after about two days of brown rice, she was hot, but not THAT hot...i stepped out on her to have an intimate rendevous with a sizzling med rare porterhouse, a beer and a bottle of A-1...even my left ventricle was saying “thank you Jesus he’s come back to his senses”...lol...the things we do for love!
A lot of the global warming stuff is peer-reviewed, too, but that doesn’t mean we dismiss S. Fred Singer as a crackpot.
>> “Maybe it makes more health sense to use corn or soy oils for that big turkey frying project” <<
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Corn and soy are some of the worst oils, along with safflower, and canola. The best deep frying oil remains lard. If it were not for the expense, the best choice would be frying at a lower temp and using virgin coconut oil, but it is expensive. It does leave a great flavor on the bird.
>> “Maybe it makes more health sense to use corn or soy oils for that big turkey frying project” <<
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Corn and soy are some of the worst oils, along with safflower, and canola. The best deep frying oil remains lard. If it were not for the expense, the best choice would be frying at a lower temp and using virgin coconut oil, but it is expensive. It does leave a great flavor on the bird.
People like you are far more dangerous. You have no credentials, you make no citations, you reference no conditional results. You make casual blanket statements implying total knowledge of a subject you could be reading off of a cereal box in your mother's basement - except that you're obviously paid to carefully reverse the key relationship this doctor is carefully examining, and negate the very concepts he's presenting, with ZERO support for your brain farts.
And s for inflammation being well-established, is that why so many people are still dying of it? You want to cite some references to go with your one-liners?
People with genetic syndromes that lead to very high cholesterol levels have a markedly increased incidence of coronary disease, and mutations in specific cholesterol metabolism genes in mice leads to cholesterol deposits in their arteries.
So what does this bullsh!t have to do with the causitive relationship between cholesterol buildup and inflammation? How do you know those mice don't have a genetic predisposition towards inflammation that leads to the cholesterol deposits? Where the hell are your citations? Where are your conditional conclusions? Where are your conditions at all? Where is the link between mice and humans in this particualr area? You're full of it, and you know it.
The bottom line is that cholesterol levels are a significant risk factor for coronary disease, unquestionably. That doesn't mean there aren't other important risk factors. There clearly are, including high blood pressure, smoking, and genetics.
The bottim line is that you are doing everything you can to cloud the immense importance of this potential finding. And once again you simply throw out a laundry list of fators and pretend it's intelligent, when citations, causations, interations, and relative importance of factors that can be directly affected by anti-inflammatories is comletely ignored. You're pathetic.
The statins, incidentally, have been shown to decrease vascular inflammation.
Really? According to what studies? In what context? And how do you know this isn't the only reason they work at all, and that you're not confirming this doctors findings while trying to dismiss it? Or is this your verson of a limited hangout, a plausible denial where, after dissuading the readers from seriously considering these findings about the role of inflammation, you wash your hands, laugh, and say "buyer beware."
I think you attempted mass murder with your post, and probably for a shill paycheck at that.
But don't worry - there's no such thing as karma, and as for God, well, you're obviously smarter than God, and your bullshit is so good it will never be held against you. And why? Because you're a fricking genius, that's why. people just have no idea how smart you are, do they? How frustrating for you.
Nobody explains how wheat is supposed to be responsible for a situation that came upon society centuries after it began to consume wheat.
Unusual diets do have the virtue of drawing new attention to what we eat, and we often eat too much just because it’s there even after we have ceased to feel hungry during the meal. If corn were the main starchy food, then dropping corn (and adopting something else like, say, wheat) would suffice equally to this end.
There may be something to the GMO hysteria. After all, wheat has been so modified and hybridized beyond what grandma used to bake her bread that it has basically become a noxious weed, even though it still tastes good.
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