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Air Force Certifying F-16s to Use Biofuels
Defense Tech ^ | 3/1/2012 | Defense Tech

Posted on 03/01/2012 8:36:24 PM PST by U-238

In case you haven’t seen this, the Air Force is flying F-16s on biofuel derived from the camelina plant. Yup, years after the air service certified most of its aviation fleet to fly on coal-derived synthetic fuel (stuff that was pioneered by the Nazis and apartheid-era South African governments because no one liked them and the world cut off their oil supplies) it is now certifying its jets to fly on something a little more environmentally friendly.

(The Navy has been working to get its ships and planes certified to run on biofuels for a while now, too.)

Its plan to certify its aviation fleet to run biofuel is very similar to its previous effort with coal-based fuels. The F-16s are being checked out to fly on a 50/50 blend of camelina oil and regular JP-8 jet fuel. The service has long said that it wants to use its status as the government’s biggest energy buyer t drive the market for alternative fuels that are produced in the United States. This would reduce the military’s reliance on foreign oil, service officials have argued.

Here’s what the service has to say about the effort.

In a joint effort by Airmen from the Air Force Research Laboratory at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, and Airmen from the Ohio Air National Guard’s 180th Fighter Wing, the F-16 Fight Falcon is currently undergoing a field service evaluation of biofuel.

As the largest consumer of energy in the Defense Department and $8 billion spent on fuel in fiscal 2011, Air Force officials are working toward making the fleet a little “greener” by researching, testing and ultimately implementing the use of alternative fuels.

(Excerpt) Read more at defensetech.org ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; biofuels; f16; usaf
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To: SuperLuminal
Believe me, the ammo box will never be substituted.

The "WTF" days keep on coming with sharply increased frequency

I agree with you and I do like that song.
121 posted on 03/02/2012 1:37:43 AM PST by U-238
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To: Deagle
Sorry, but all of these decisions were based upon environmental group pressure - no matter party

You may be right. I don't know the specifics of who made these decisions and why, but I doubt that the national interest was the only goal for everyone involved.

I give a darn when this started.

Agree.

Obama says it looks like this

But eventually.....


122 posted on 03/02/2012 2:07:55 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: U-238

Leaving the Gattling behind didn’t help either ...


123 posted on 03/02/2012 4:36:43 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; U-238; Deagle; ILS21R; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; Impy; ...
RE :"This is an Air Force decision for 50/50 fuels and it was made in 2007 when Bush was the president......
.... Oh, if GWB was in power when a decision was made, that makes me feel a LOT better /sarc
"

Once again I will reference the GWB-Pelosi 2007 Energy bill Obamanation that mandated expensive, wasteful, poluting , inefficient ethanol and banning safe light bulbs. Even greenies refuse to take responsibility for ethanol now.

Claiming GWB was involved is about as inspiring as saying Obama was involved.

Bifuels is just Hollyword nonsense. A sucker is born every minute. U-238 is getting his WWII history from this movie.


124 posted on 03/02/2012 5:18:32 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: sickoflibs; U-238; Deagle; ILS21R; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; Impy
IMBD: Pitched as 'the movie the oil companies don't want you to see' but instead proving to be the movie nobody wanted to see


125 posted on 03/02/2012 5:47:51 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Did you see a picture after you hit review?


126 posted on 03/02/2012 5:53:19 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: U-238
Or my fingers - ever heard of chisenbop?
127 posted on 03/02/2012 6:00:56 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: sickoflibs

Oui! However, I just noticed that sometimes the .jpg file displays and sometimes it doesn’t.


128 posted on 03/02/2012 6:02:21 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; U-238; Deagle; ILS21R; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; Impy
'The Formula' movie was on cable a few weeks ago and I watched part of it. Those evil oil companies will kill anyone who is a threat to their $$$ profits by pushing ‘cheaper’ alternatives, I saw it in the movie.

Then again I saw the China Syndrome which claims that we are better off buying oil from our enemies than using nuclear power here. Those libs just cant get their conspiracies straight.

I see your picture now.

129 posted on 03/02/2012 6:02:26 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: sickoflibs

A similar story is “Brownshoes” by Theodore Sturgeon (not a movie, just a science fiction short story, 1969). A hippie engineer discovers a kind of perpetual motion machine, But in this story, he cuts his hair and trades his sandals for brown business shoes, and with his profits he hires a whole building of lawyers, so that he is ready for the inevitable attack by the oil companies.

So then, with the aid of his devices, humanity enters a golden age, irrigating the deserts and eliminating hunger. Everybody lives happily ever after, except his hippie ex-girfriend, who is disgusted that he “sold out” (perhaps a metaphor for anti-capitalists).


130 posted on 03/02/2012 6:28:52 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: sickoflibs
Then again I saw the China Syndrome which claims that we are better off buying oil from our enemies than using nuclear power here. Those libs just cant get their conspiracies straight.

Touche!

131 posted on 03/02/2012 6:33:43 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
RE :”Then again I saw the China Syndrome which claims that we are better off buying oil from our enemies than using nuclear power here. Those libs just cant get their conspiracies straight....
....
Touche!

It's fun to reflect on how you and I AFTER seeing history unfold over the decades see the world different than younger less experienced ignorant voters, any of which Obama is counting on to save him again , the rest going to Ron Paul.

I was in college when the China Syndrome got to my cable TV taking college physics around the time of Three Mile Island . Later in college I had to take thermodynamics. (a reason why I don't fall for these endless snake oil con jobs as the suckers do.)

If you think back to Three Mile Island and The China Syndrome era the libs made energy independence out to be the destruction of the United States. Remember how the reactor cores would eventually reach China ?? (Heck that would eliminate the need for disposing of the waste products LOL.)

Where were the ‘energy independent’ liberals when that battle came up?? They were Banning Nuke power as they try to ban domestic oil production right NOW.

132 posted on 03/02/2012 7:00:06 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: OrioleFan

I have but never could get it right. Anyways, I cant move my arms and fingers due to arthritis.


133 posted on 03/02/2012 8:15:56 PM PST by U-238
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; U-238; Deagle; ILS21R; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3

Since you so smart what is your short term and long term plan?


134 posted on 03/02/2012 8:42:37 PM PST by U-238
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; U-238; Deagle; ILS21R; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3

Since you so smart what is your short term and long term plan;sickoflibs


135 posted on 03/02/2012 8:42:54 PM PST by U-238
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; U-238; Deagle; ILS21R; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3

What is your plan Sick of libs on keeping the bombers flying on a long term plan while saving money for the Air Force to keep our programs from being axed?The last time I checked George W Bush was a Republican president unless you live in another dimension.


136 posted on 03/02/2012 8:46:00 PM PST by U-238
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To: Deagle; ILS21R; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3
The last time I also checked that President Bush was pro drilling in ANWAR and in the Gulf but was stopped by the Democrats or that has conveniently slipped your mind
137 posted on 03/02/2012 8:49:30 PM PST by U-238
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To: sickoflibs

The last time I also checked that President Bush was pro drilling in ANWAR and in the Gulf but was stopped by the Democrats or that has conveniently slipped your mind


138 posted on 03/02/2012 8:50:43 PM PST by U-238
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To: U-238; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Deagle; ILS21R; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ..
RE :”Since you so smart what is your short term and long term plan

1) Give up bi-fuels and electric cars, and stop wasting our money on snake oil
2) Drill more and produce more coal and natural gas domestically
3) OK the oil pipeline
4) stabilize the dollar
5) Let prices naturally rise or fall, let consumers decide to conserve to save money if prices go up on their own.

139 posted on 03/02/2012 9:19:48 PM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: sickoflibs

Good. You have a plan.


140 posted on 03/02/2012 9:22:33 PM PST by U-238
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