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Newt and the Associated Press utterly ZOT Obama's born-alive abortion record
Just Facts ^ | February 24, 2012 | James D. Agresti

Posted on 02/24/2012 11:23:02 AM PST by NEOhio

In a fact check of Wednesday's Republican presidential debate on CNN, Associated Press reporters Calvin Woodward and Tom Raum take Newt Gingrich to task for stating:

"If we’re going to have a debate about who the extremist is on these issues, it is President Obama, who as a state senator voted to protect doctors who killed babies who survived the abortion."

Citing the above statement in a list of what they call "head-scratching claims," Woodward and Raum challenge it as follows:

"THE FACTS: As an Illinois state senator, Obama voted against legislation promoted by anti-abortion activists that would have conferred protection to fetuses showing any signs of life after an abortion, even if doctors did not believe the fetus was viable. Obama pointed to an existing Illinois law requiring doctors to protect fetuses they believed were likely to survive after an abortion, and said he was concerned the proposed new law was so broad it could interfere with routine abortions. Obama said he would have supported federal legislation President George W. Bush signed in 2002 that would protect a viable fetus but reaffirmed a woman’s right to an abortion."

These assertions miss the truth in three key respects, which are covered in Just Facts' research on abortion in the sections dealing with live births and terminology.

(Excerpt) Read more at justfactsdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; bornalive; infanticide; newt; obama; troll; zot
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Nice title change. :-O


41 posted on 02/24/2012 12:04:14 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: Admin Moderator; 50mm; Mr.Unique; Red Steel; CAluvdubya; DarthVader; wagglebee; Tzar; ...
This is not a troll attack! The article is, on the whole, quite factual and negative about Obama's pro-infanticide policies

In sum, Obama voted against three bills stating that anyone “born alive at any stage of development” is considered a “person” under Illinois state law including those born as a result of “abortion.” He did this in the face of sworn testimony from Illinois nurses who witnessed aborted newborns living and being neglected for up to eight hours after birth. These are the straightforward and unadorned facts of the matte.

43 posted on 02/24/2012 12:04:28 PM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: NEOhio
The law Obama voted against required doctors to provide palliative care to such babies even if they had no chance of long-term survival. That’s the difference.

The title - Newt and the Associated Press distort Obama’s born-alive abortion record

The difference is the distortion. It's the other way around. The author here by his headline and writings was to distort the issue. To make Gingrich look bad and by obscuring the facts to make Obama look good.

44 posted on 02/24/2012 12:04:49 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: NEOhio
Difference my a**.

Here's Jill Stanek with LINKS to the bills and 0bama's actions and actual commments at the time. Newt has defined 0 dead on.

45 posted on 02/24/2012 12:05:09 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Fractal Trader

Newt said that Obama voted to “protect doctors who killed babies who survived the abortion.” The preexisting law already prohibited this. The law Obama voted against required doctors to provide palliative care to such babies even if they had no chance of long-term survival. That’s the difference.

24 posted on February 24, 2012 2:42:21 PM EST by NEOhio


46 posted on 02/24/2012 12:07:08 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NEOhio

47 posted on 02/24/2012 12:08:02 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Too funny. Go, kitty. he/she’s mad about all of the lies being spread in his backyard.


48 posted on 02/24/2012 12:12:02 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: NEOhio

Yeah, it is factual but leaves a whole lot out of his record and is therefore, by omission, an out right lie which seeks to deceive through further obfuscation of the factual history of the won.

GFY


49 posted on 02/24/2012 12:15:07 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: NEOhio

Your attempt to defend murdering the most innocent of the human race is even more insidous than those who defended the practice of slavery. I find it amazing that the same party that tries to equate homosexuals with the history of slavery are also the ones that defend murdering completely innocent human beings.

Moral equivelancy at its best....


50 posted on 02/24/2012 12:16:44 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Tzar

Are you the IBTZ Tzar?

LOL


51 posted on 02/24/2012 12:20:10 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: NEOhio

When all a president has to run on for a record is record deficits, record unemployment, record home foreclosures, record debt, record gas prices, algae as a fuel, green energy from bankrupt companies, nearly a $Trillion dollars for nothing stimulus; then the only thing you have to fall back on is offering “Fault-Free F***ing.”


52 posted on 02/24/2012 12:25:14 PM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: NEOhio; 50mm; darkwing104; Arrowhead1952; Darksheare; onyx; TheOldLady; Lady Jag; Allegra; Chode; ..


53 posted on 02/24/2012 12:25:39 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: NEOhio; 50mm; DarthVader; wagglebee; darkwing104; SunkenCiv; humblegunner; Allegra; Eaker; ...


So long, NEOhio (Posting History)

Hat Tip to 50mm, DarthVader, and Wagglebee

Pro-Obama and infanticide troll finds out how very painful it is to be barbecued and left to suffer until dead



Allowing a baby to die is murder, nitwit


Thank you JoeProBono

FReepmail TheOldLady to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.

54 posted on 02/24/2012 12:26:39 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Tzar

“Yeah, cause we really expect an abortionist to accurately assess the survivability of the child he failed to kill on the first try.”

Bears repeating.


55 posted on 02/24/2012 12:29:11 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: NEOhio
>”The law Obama voted against required doctors to provide palliative care to such babies even if they had no chance of long-term survival”<

So Obama thinks Doctors are Gods who determine if the Quality or “estimated” Lifespan is worth their trouble? I guess it's time to close all those specialized treatment departments for Preemie Babies. Without Medical Intervention, they would all die.

BTW - Rick Santorum’s Daughter was only expected to live at most a few months according to her Doctors, but she is Three Years Old now.

56 posted on 02/24/2012 12:37:35 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: NEOhio

bttt


57 posted on 02/24/2012 12:43:53 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("Without consequences, there's no virtue". ~ Rush Limbaugh 12:51 PM, Friday, 2/17/2012)
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To: NEOhio; 50mm; DarthVader; wagglebee; darkwing104; SunkenCiv; humblegunner; Allegra; Eaker; ...

Looks like NEOhio got what he loves the most.... to be aborted.

Bye bye.


58 posted on 02/24/2012 12:58:10 PM PST by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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Happy one month "anniversary," n00b!

Welcome to Free Republic, said in all sincerity. Conservatives are always welcome here.
59 posted on 02/24/2012 1:07:00 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: NEOhio
Your factual summary is factual BULLSH_T.

Here in IL the Bill in question was called: 'The Born Alive Protection Act'. That was not the official name just like ObamaCare isn't the 'official name' of ObamaCare.

But that's what it boiled down to and Barry 'The Kenyan Cannibal' Obama voted against it. (Abortion fails and baby lives, Barry says KILL IT!)

Now screw off ya Zotted Troll.

60 posted on 02/24/2012 1:14:58 PM PST by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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