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Newt and the Associated Press utterly ZOT Obama's born-alive abortion record
Just Facts ^ | February 24, 2012 | James D. Agresti

Posted on 02/24/2012 11:23:02 AM PST by NEOhio

In a fact check of Wednesday's Republican presidential debate on CNN, Associated Press reporters Calvin Woodward and Tom Raum take Newt Gingrich to task for stating:

"If we’re going to have a debate about who the extremist is on these issues, it is President Obama, who as a state senator voted to protect doctors who killed babies who survived the abortion."

Citing the above statement in a list of what they call "head-scratching claims," Woodward and Raum challenge it as follows:

"THE FACTS: As an Illinois state senator, Obama voted against legislation promoted by anti-abortion activists that would have conferred protection to fetuses showing any signs of life after an abortion, even if doctors did not believe the fetus was viable. Obama pointed to an existing Illinois law requiring doctors to protect fetuses they believed were likely to survive after an abortion, and said he was concerned the proposed new law was so broad it could interfere with routine abortions. Obama said he would have supported federal legislation President George W. Bush signed in 2002 that would protect a viable fetus but reaffirmed a woman’s right to an abortion."

These assertions miss the truth in three key respects, which are covered in Just Facts' research on abortion in the sections dealing with live births and terminology.

(Excerpt) Read more at justfactsdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; bornalive; infanticide; newt; obama; troll; zot
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A factual summary of Obama's votes on bills relating to abortion survivors
1 posted on 02/24/2012 11:23:06 AM PST by NEOhio
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To: NEOhio

Double-speak and double negatives aside, how is this explanation even a teeny, teeny bit different from what Newt said?


2 posted on 02/24/2012 11:27:15 AM PST by Mach9
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To: NEOhio
VIDEO: EXPLOSIVE recording of BARACK OBAMA supporting INFANTICIDE
3 posted on 02/24/2012 11:27:19 AM PST by tsowellfan (If its between Obama and Romney, there isnt all that much difference - George Soros)
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To: NEOhio

And from Doug Ross:

Fact Checking National Journal’s “Fact Check”: Yes, Obama Voted to Legalize Infanticide. Not Once, But Twice.

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2012/02/fact-checking-national-journals-fact.html


4 posted on 02/24/2012 11:29:32 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: NEOhio; darkwing104; 50mm; Old Sarge; 230FMJ; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; ...
Zero is the most pro-baby-killing president in history.

Speaking of history, you have an interesting one for posting, Zero-loving troll.


5 posted on 02/24/2012 11:29:54 AM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: NEOhio

Something smells here...


6 posted on 02/24/2012 11:30:11 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: 50mm

I haven’t been IBTZ in a while.


7 posted on 02/24/2012 11:31:42 AM PST by Mr.Unique (EVERYBODY is a RINO. Except me.)
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To: NEOhio

Aww.. somebody insulted Barry BigEars, and here comes someone to defend him!
Attaboy!


8 posted on 02/24/2012 11:32:46 AM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Mach9
It isn't. I had to read to several times to see if I was missing something. Obama did vote against the antiabortionist (pro-lifers). Double speak is right.
9 posted on 02/24/2012 11:33:04 AM PST by annieokie
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To: NEOhio

Hmmmmmmmmm... I thought Barack Obama was the key sponsor of the Illinois bill to kill born alive newborns but still finish the abortion job?

Something smells here... I bet if I do some looking, I’ll find these guys aren’t telling the truth.


10 posted on 02/24/2012 11:34:10 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: NEOhio
Hmmmm, took a little 3 year hiatus from posting, eh?

So it seems you agree with this article and don't think Obama supports infanticide....

I say, IBTZ!

11 posted on 02/24/2012 11:36:02 AM PST by CAluvdubya
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To: NEOhio; 50mm; Vendome; reaganaut; Lazmataz; Servant of the Cross; mkjessup; Old Sarge; ...

Look what we have here boys!! An Obuggery loving troll!

IBTZ!! Calling all Kitties!!


13 posted on 02/24/2012 11:36:14 AM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: NEOhio

It is unfair for the article to give Newt and the AP equal culpability on the matter.

The AP’s “fact check” is a bold lie. It uses purposeful distortions (calling a born child a “fetus”), ignores facts (Obama voted to kill legislation that Obama claimed he voted for), and parrots Obama’s distorted position on the matter

Newt’s so-called “distortion” of
killing = leaving nonviable newborns to suffer and die without care
is a matter of what can be explained under the time constraints of a debate.


14 posted on 02/24/2012 11:36:31 AM PST by kidd
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To: NEOhio
Can almost hear the wheezing.
15 posted on 02/24/2012 11:37:25 AM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: NEOhio; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; Lesforlife; EternalVigilance; ...
Well, well troll.

You have made exactly three posts on FR in three years and ALL OF THEM have been defending Zero's abortion record.

IBTZ!

16 posted on 02/24/2012 11:37:29 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: NEOhio

Are you going to try to defend yourself, you Zero-butt-kissing libtard?


17 posted on 02/24/2012 11:37:53 AM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: NEOhio
3 years and 3 posts. One of them is this crap. MMMMM. Very Interesting.

IBTZ


19 posted on 02/24/2012 11:38:51 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: NEOhio

20 posted on 02/24/2012 11:39:52 AM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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