[Invincibly Ignorant]

You seem to be on shaky ground. As far as I can tell both Christians and Mormomns believe the same guy ressurected 2,000 years ago. And you're telling Mormons their belief in the ressurerection doesn't have enough power to save them?

You don't seem to share the purity and simlicity of the gospel message. You seem to manipulate it. All this other stuff you're bent on burdening others with your buddy Paul the Apostle seemed willing to overlook. His attitude was that whether by Paul or Apollos the message was still getting out.

[aruanan]

All this other stuff you're bent on burdening others with your buddy Paul the Apostle seemed willing to overlook. His attitude was that whether by Paul or Apollos the message was still getting out.

Sure, if it was another version (allos) of the same gospel, but if it was an other (heteros) gospel, that is, something different but referred to as the same thing, Paul said let those who preach it be accursed.

These are the words Paul used to make the distinction: allos, meaning another of the same kind, like two loaves of whole wheat bread. Heteros, meaning another of a different kind, that is, another that doesn't share the same inherent characteristics, like the difference between a loaf of whole wheat bread and something that looks like a loaf of whole wheat bread but is actually a stage prop made of expertly painted styrofoam.

This is where the word "heterodoxy" comes from to refer to a teaching that is, beyond superficial characteristics, inherently something else. The Book of Mormon Jesus and the New Testament Jesus are examples of this. They share superficial characteristics but inherently, according to the teachings of the respective groups, are entirely different beings in the same way that the Jesus of the Watchtower is an entirely different being than the Jesus of the New Testament.

[AnTiw1]

" As far as I can tell both Christians and Mormomns believe the same guy ressurected 2,000 years ago. And you're telling Mormons their belief in the ressurerection doesn't have enough power to save them? "

mormons and christians do NOT believe in the same Jesus

christians believe Jesus was the Son of God

mormons believe Jesus was a man who lived according to mormon principles, had wives and children, and BECAME a 'mormon god', to serve as an example to mormons of what they can accomplish if they live the perfect mormon life

in addition, mormons believe Jesus tried to spread the mormon faith in palestine, in north america ( and some say in ancient egypt also) and that in each instance he FAILED...and that Joseph Smith was sucessful where Jesus was a failure

when Joseph Smith was killed in a gunfight with an angry mob, mormon theology immediately seized on his death as 'the sacrifice of the second lamb' officially making him the successor to the 'failed' Son of God

today under "presidential authority' whoever leads the lds has literally become christ on earth...they believe the prayers of an entire world are unheard by God because the president of the mormon church is the only divine link to God and his 'authority' to let God hear prayers only extends to members of the mormon church

mormons believe EVERYONE will be resurrected!...some will be resurrected to a hell-like purgatory, some will be resurrected to be servants of the 'mormon gods', and the few who live their lives perfectly as mormons become gods, and only the gods experience heaven as we know it and go on to create planets and worshippers to perpetuate the process

[AnTiw1]

CHRISTIANITY: “If you believe Jesus is the Son of God, then God abides with you and you abide with God.”

MORMONISM: “Jesus was a man who exalted himself to become a mormon god, and so can you! Simply complete this list:

DAILY

Personal prayer
Family prayer
Scripture study
Seminary for HS students

WEEKLY

Family home evening
Sunday church attendance
Sabbath observance
YM/YW activities for teens

MONTHLY

Fast (with a purpose)
Pay tithing, fast offering, other offerings
Home teaching/Visiting teaching
Receive home/visiting teachers
Temple attendance, if near a temple
Enrichment night for RS sisters

YEARLY

Tithing settlement

LIFETIME

Mission (at least one)
Marriage
Bear (or acquire) and raise children

ONGOING

Hold a calling
Service projects
Temporal preparedness, food storage, garden
Genealogy
Member missionary work
Keep journal, records of family
Ward social activities

and your bishop, once he feels you’re well and truly brainwashed into the cult, will give you a PIECE OF PAPER THAT GETS YOU INTO HEAVEN...the coveted “Temple Recommend” that allows you to put on fig leaves and a cef’s hat and do the hokey-pokey in the mormon temple, and it’s these masonic rituals that get you to heaven and make you a god, simply because the mormon president says so and the lds leader is both prophet and the holder of all godly authority on earth

many of us here are ex-mormons, and yet you think youre the authority on mormon salvation...so ARE you a mormon, just stirring up the shyte for your lord and savior Peepstone Joe, or what?

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“You seem to be on shaky ground. As far as I can tell both Christians and Mormomns believe the same guy ressurected 2,000 years ago. And you’re telling Mormons their belief in the ressurerection doesn’t have enough power to save them?”

Let’s see...

Either you didn’t read what I wrote
or, it is a failure to understand th Gospel
Or, you too are wearing the magic underwear

[aMorePerfectUnion]

II, now that I'm in front of a real computer, I'd like to think together about your post...

"You seem to be on shaky ground. As far as I can tell both Christians and Mormomns believe the same guy ressurected 2,000 years ago."

And here is the first place that your post fails. The Jesus Christ that Christians place their faith in for salvation is a very different person than the one taught by mormons. You must know who each is to see they are different. You seem to not know one or the other. Which don't you know?

"And you're telling Mormons their belief in the ressurerection doesn't have enough power to save them?"

Different person, different object of faith.

In addition, simple believe in a resurrection is not the totality of the Gospel of Grace.

The Apostle Paul explains the Gospel in I Corinthians 15

1 Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. 2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas,[b] and then to the Twelve. 6 After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, 8 and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.

Paul makes it clear that the Gospel is more than the resurrection.

"You don't seem to share the purity and simlicity of the gospel message. You seem to manipulate it. All this other stuff you're bent on burdening others with your buddy Paul the Apostle seemed willing to overlook. His attitude was that whether by Paul or Apollos the message was still getting out."

The Apostle Paul includes more than the resurrection in his explanation of the Gospel. You have truncated the gospel to only the resurrection. If it was "as simple" as just saying anyone who believes in the resurrection (of anyone they like) will be saved, then Paul was far from simple. Instead, it is that your explanation is simplistic and reductionalistic. You have perverted the Gospel by making it less than it is.

[Elsie]

And you're telling Mormons their belief in the ressurerection doesn't have enough power to save them?

II - you ain't payin' attention this Sunday.

The BIBLE says that. (Remember I told YOU to actually READ it for yourself? That's so you will NOT have to rely on another's 'interpretation'.)

IF you persist in being so lazy; you will FLUNK this course young man!!