Posted on 02/17/2012 4:43:39 AM PST by Kaslin
1) Gay marriage is incompatible with Christianity (and for that matter, Islam & Judaism). If someone asks you why you oppose gay marriage, the only thing you really have to say to explain it is, "I'm a Christian."
God doesn't condemn anyone for who he is; so if you're attracted to the same sex, that absolutely, unconditionally doesn't make you bad, evil or "un-Christian." On the other hand, let me note that I do consider hating, tormenting, or bullying people because of their sexual orientation to be distinctively "un-Christian" behavior. As Billy Graham has said, “God will not judge a Christian guilty for his or her involuntary feelings.” However, God has drawn a clear line in the sand when it comes to homosexual acts. If you're gay, you're not allowed to act on it. If that seems harsh or unfair to you, well, sorry, but you'll have to take it up with God. It's His rule.
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination." -- Leviticus 18:22
The people of Sodom and Gomorrah could tell you how serious God is about that -- if there were any of them left. So as a Christian, you can no more condone gay marriage than you could give the thumbs up to prostitution or wife swapping. That means if you're a Christian standing in favor of gay marriage, then you're a Christian who's standing directly in opposition to the God whom you claim to worship.
2) Gay marriage will end up infringing on religious freedom. The moment gay marriage becomes the law of the land, all sorts of First Amendment freedoms involving the free exercise of people's religion will likely be infringed upon as a consequence. No pastor should be forced to marry a gay couple. No wedding photographer, cake maker, caterer, or wedding planner should be forced to be involved in these weddings. No church or any other location should be forced to be the site of a gay wedding. Children will be taught in schools that gay marriage is normal, legal, and moral -- and it directly contradicts the teachings of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. To create this special privilege for gay Americans would mean impinging on the First Amendment rights of more than 200 million Americans.
3) Civil unions could confer every "right" that marriage does. Gay marriage is not about "rights;" it's about special privileges. After all, every right conferred upon a couple via marriage could be just as easily conferred on a gay couple via a civil union, which is a compromise that could probably be had if gay activists wanted it. In fact, the biggest objection conservatives have had to civil unions is that there's a fear they'd be used as a stepping stone to gay marriage. So, let's be clear: there are actually no "rights" whatsoever at stake in the push for gay marriage.
Instead, what gay activists are looking for is a special privilege of the worst sort because it's as much about dragging everyone else down as it is about raising everyone up. To accommodate gay marriage, the whole meaning of marriage has to be warped and twisted. The religious content has to be taken out and marriage has to become just one more reason to file paperwork with the government.
So, this isn't really so much about marriage per se as it is an attempt to force society and religion to accept gay unions as every bit as normal and healthy as straight relationships, which will never truly happen. You might be able to intimidate some people into silence with political correctness, but the truth is still there and people know it, even if they don't want to be screamed at and accused of being bigots for pointing out the obvious.
4) Gay marriage may be where it starts, but it wouldn't be where it ends. Once the definition of marriage is arbitrarily transformed to make gay activists happy, there's no chance it's going to stop there. For example, you could make a much better case for polygamy than you can for gay marriage. It has a much more robust historical tradition, it's more consistent with religious values, it produces children -- there simply is no compelling, logical reason why gay marriage should become the law of the land without also granting polygamy the same legal status.
Furthermore, once that door is opened, where does it stop? How about brother and sister? Marrying the dead sound any better? How does man and dog strike you? Adults marrying children? How does marrying a tree or a clay urn hit you?
People get outraged by this sort of comparisons, but this isn't just speculation; these are unions that have occurred in other countries. So, if it has happened somewhere else, you can be sure some wacko will want to do it here, some lawyer will decide marrying your sister is a civil right, and some liberal judge will agree with him. Next thing you know, anyone who opposes it is accused of being George Wallace and trying to stop the progress of civil rights. Sound farfetched? Well, isn't that exactly what happened with gay marriage?
5) Marriage already has enough problems as it is without gay marriage. One of the weirdest arguments in favor of gay marriage goes like so: Marriage is already on the rocks. Look at all the people cheating, look at all the divorces; so why not gay marriage, too?
This is like arguing that someone has already accidentally eaten some rat poison; so why not give him some cyanide to go along with it? When someone's sick, you don't make him sicker, you heal him. If marriage has been tarnished in our society -- and it has -- we should be looking for ways to strengthen marriage, not weaken it.
Sure, if gay marriage were to become legal tomorrow, you wouldn't have legions of people who are already married running off to get divorced. But, gay marriage would further degrade the religious element of marriage, cut down on the "sacredness" of it, and make it less of a special event. That would cause people to put less value on marriage, make them less likely to get married in the first place, and make them more likely to get divorced. This leads to more children being born out of wedlock and kids from single parents are more likely to commit suicide, take drugs, go to jail, drop out of high school, etc., etc. in every category that matters than kids from two parent families. You can already see this starting to play out in Sweden, Norway, and Denmark and you'll see it happen here, too, if gay marriage becomes the law of the land.
You must stop reading what you "want to see", and instead read what is actually written.
Never once was it mentioned that "Mother Theresa was in favor of homosexual marriage". Never!
If you are going to argue, do it without bias, objectively, resonably.
I have slandered nothing and no one...and you know it. Grow the hell up.
Yep. Exactly like that.
Hey, no logic nor reason, rather than change the terms of the discussion, take a shot at disputing the points in the column.
Hawkins make the unconscionable, deadly mistake of offering a concession in “civil unions.” Anyone who falls for this atrocious deceit is already drunk unconscious from the Koolaid.
You are being ridiculous. Would you rather he be for gays getting married in church?
I suppose it could be done—but WHY? So lets hear your five reasons why the thing Created ought say to the Creator WHY have you fashioned me thus? We were established a Christian nation. I find No credible reason to exclude God,religion, or the Bible.
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Logic n' Reason wants five reasons why same sex marriage is not a good idea that do not refer to religion. Here are five to start with; there are many more.
1. It is against the Laws of nature, since sodomy is against the laws of nature.
2. It is cultural suicide to glorify, legalize and protect unnatural and perverted behavior.
3. Children raised by mentally ill sex perverts have a horrible time in life, this is clearly been documented.
4. Children in the foster or otherwise care of mentally ill sex perverts are much more often sexually molested, as homosexuals have a very high rate of pedophilia, Hebephilia - molesting 11–14 year olds, and Ephebophilia - teenagers above 14.
5. Schools in states where "gay marriage" is somehow become legal, teach children that "gay is good" and books like Heather Has Two Mommies and Daddy's Roomate are read to children, and that's just for starters. I have more, plenty more.
MARRIAGE is a legal framework comprised of a variety of rights, but also alot of PROTECTIONS. These protections are required because of the DIFFERENCES between men and women and also because a mail-female pair can produce children. For example, a man must be protected from being required to support children he did not father, and a woman must be protected from being traded in for a newer model at a time when her attractiveness (physical, and ability to bear children) is waning and his attractiveness (income potential) is increasing. Children produced by the relationship also must be provided for if the couple splits up. None of this applies to a same-sex couple (with the possible exception of adopted children). The kind of things that Gays claim to want are available with the appropriate already-existing legal instruments (power of attorney, “next of kin” status, etc) or could be combined into a properly crafted “civil union” framework. But even that is kinda “iffy” since not all same-sex relationships necessarily expect the same things of each other. Either way, the MARRIAGE legal framework does not apply to a same-sex relationship and our legal system should not be cluttered up with it as regards break-ups of same-sex couples.
No, the CDC stats added up still have "men who have sex with men" as the direct or indirect cause of more than 80 to 85% of all new AIDS cases. So, that is a lie of yours. An interesting lie, though; since homosexual activists used to shout "AIDS is not a gay disease" over and over, and it turns out, it is vastly a fag disease. Second, practically no "marriages" of homosexuals are monogamous, also backed up by stats.
Our anatomy is not designed to accommodate same sex, sex.
This is an opinion, not a fact. Our human anatomy is far more versatile and agile than you give it credit for being.
Just because the male organ can be shoved up the anus you think that's where it belongs? You're out of your cotton picking mind. I suppose you think people can eat by sticking a banana in their ears, too. Oh, I suppose you mean it's natural since orgasm can be experienced that way. Just because perverts can achieve sex pleasure in filthy and unnatural or even very cruel ways doesn't make it "natural"!
puhlease....
Civil unions was the conscious method by homosexual activists to lead to “gay” marriage. As soon as they get “civil unions” they raise the cry of “It’s not REAL Marriage whine whine!”
“We” will only lose the battle if “we” give up. I am not giving up, nor will I ever. We wound up with what we have now because of moral cowardice. Time to change that.
Maybe you misunderstood me. By conceding "civil unions" you virtually ensure that homosexual "marriage" is a reality not too far down the road. Draw a line, and the barbarians will draw their battle front all the way up to it, to lob bombs over it.
If we don't draw the line at the inception of this attack, we have as good as lost. Look at Vermont and Washington as examples.
Many states wisely understood this threat even BEFORE the first state, Massachusetts, even counterfeited marriage, and enacted in their constitutions not only the established definition of marriage, but also preclusions to counterfeits. This was the only sane course of action, knowing what the barbarians were capable of.
This sounds suspiciously like you are "concern trolling" in favor of sodomite marriage.
Free Republic is a PRO-GOD, PRO-MORALITY forum that OPPOSES the homosexual agenda.
Do you realize that prior to a few years ago, throughout history, ALL CULTURES had one common element to marriage and that is that a marriage contained EXACTLY ONE MAN? Some polygamous cultures have had one man and two or more women, but there is ALWAYS one man, never more than one and never no men.
So what is your next step?
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He almost got it passed last year and he's been working on the Dem opponents ever since. Not much hope in this state.
However his college Dream Act passed last year goes up for a referendum in November after a petition drive. That shows more hope.
If each person did whatever he could do, things would improve. I help run the homosexual agenda ping list, give information to people, talk to people in my actual life, and so on. I have no money to donate to good causes, or I would do that as well.
Whining about losing is the very best way to lose wars.
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