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NYT/CBS poll shows conservatives consolidating behind Santorum
Hotair ^ | 02/14/2012 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 02/14/2012 6:47:22 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Consider this a corroboration of Gallup and Pew, both of which have recorded a surge for Rick Santorum that makes him the national frontrunner — if not in each state. The CBS/New York Times poll shows Santorum gaining 14 points in a single month, eclipsing Mitt Romney by three points (still within the MOE), whose support stayed virtually unchanged from January. Almost all of the gain comes at the expense of Newt Gingrich, who dropped to fourth place behind Ron Paul among Republican primary voters:

Rick Santorum has pulled slightly ahead of Mitt Romney in Republican primary voters’ preference for the presidential nomination, a national CBS News/New York Times Poll shows.

Ron Paul is now in third, followed by former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich.

Among self-described conservative voters, the shift has been fairly dramatic. A month ago in this poll series, conservatives were equally split between Romney, Gingrich, and Santorum at 25/25/24 respectively. Now, however, Santorum’s support in this demo has risen to 38%, while Romney has remained steady at 24% and Gingrich dropped by about half to 12%. The same thing has happened to Tea Party support and evangelicals. The dynamic seems to be a movement away from Gingrich and a consolidation among conservative voters behind Santorum as the alternative to Romney, at least for now.

There are a few things to note about this poll, however. This is a poll of registered voters, not likely voters, which is not as predictive a model and is a curious sampling choice in the middle of the actual primary voting. These results come from a larger survey, most of whose results will be announced later. The overall sample was 1,064 registered voters, but only 331 of those planned to vote in a Republican primary. At least a few of those will be independents rather than Republicans, so the partisan split of the overall survey is likely to be highly skewed to Democrats. That doesn’t matter for these results, but a sample of 331 registered voters for a national poll is on the small side. Keep that in mind.

Now that Santorum has become a legitimate force in the race, he’s getting some attention from the usual suspects. Member of Occupy Tacoma tried to crash a Santorum event, and Politico reports that Santorum responded by calling them agents of “true intolerance”:

Filling the front row at the Washington State History Museum where Santorum spoke, a group of Occupy protesters disrupted the event, forcing Santorum to engage them. Occupy Tacoma, the local branch of the Occupy Wall Street movement, is camped out right next to the museum, and advertised Santorum’s visit on its web site.

“I think it’s really important for you to understand what this radical element represents, because what they represent is true intolerance,” Santorum said, after two protesters were taken to the ground and placed in handcuffs by police.

The protesters, Santorum suggested, “instead of standing here unemployed, yelling at somebody” should instead “go out and get a job.”

Santorum’s supporters roared their approval, chanting “get a job” back at the Occupiers.

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then


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To: SeekAndFind

Works for me!


101 posted on 02/14/2012 11:06:46 AM PST by luvie (Unleash the American People!!)
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To: Def Conservative

Liberal? Really? who do you think is not liberal?


102 posted on 02/14/2012 11:07:10 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: xzins
Everyone with half an ounce of neutrality acknowledges that Santorum won that debate.

I'm not neutral, I prefer Newt, but Santorum did the best in that debate.

Gingrich is on his game about every other debate.

Newt is on his game a lot more than that, but his last two were a lot weaker than normal and it hurt him since his support had come from people watching how well he had done in the prior debates.

103 posted on 02/14/2012 11:08:50 AM PST by Lakeshark (NbIttoalbl,cRwIdtaa)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
"His blowout loss to Bob Casey, Jr. whose IQ would place him somewhere in the legume family of vegetables. People outside Pennsylvania do not understand how this happened. It happened because Casey deliberately mislead the huge pool of senile voters in this state into believing that he was his dead father, a very popular Governor."

Having met Sen Casey and attempted a conversation with him, I think you're being very generous in your IQ estimate. However he does a good job of looking the part. He is polite, wears a nice suit and his shoes are polished.

104 posted on 02/14/2012 11:16:33 AM PST by Think free or die
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To: Christie at the beach
” ... his poor performance with David Gregory, the other day shows he cannot even understand nor handle when the left wing anchor referred to some of his ideas as bigoted and sexist. Rick just giggled and smiled.”

The same thing happened to Santorum a couple of months ago on Fox News Sunday in an interview with Chris Wallace.

105 posted on 02/14/2012 11:24:24 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: thedrake
Look up thread.

The HHS mandate was to force Newt and Rick to take a stand. Either they stand with their Church's view on birth control, which is not shared by most, or they don't, which makes them a hypocrite.

That leaves Romney, who DID THE SAME THING IN MASS! This was about forcing Romney to the front. It hasn't worked that way yet, but I suspect the next vote will be telling.

106 posted on 02/14/2012 11:28:12 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Lakeshark
We can hardly judge Newt over his last debate performance. How feckless is the so called CONservative base, that they would forget all the grand performances Newt has had, and throw him under the bus for a moderate BS artist like Santorum, in less than a month.

If this is what this party has become, they deserve to lose. They blow around with the wind. It's an embarrassment and a disgrace. But the bottom line means, we all lose!

107 posted on 02/14/2012 11:35:17 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: 21twelve; Absolutely Nobama; AFPhys; afraidfortherepublic; AmericanInTokyo; ...


Santorum for President ping. Let me know if you want on or off the list.

Top 10 Reasons why Conservatives should support Santorum

16 Reasons Why Mitt Romney Would Be a Really, Really Bad President


108 posted on 02/14/2012 11:46:43 AM PST by Antoninus (Mitt Romney -- attempting to execute a hostile take-over of the Republican Party.)
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To: BobL

Santorum can beat the community organizer on principal alone!


109 posted on 02/14/2012 11:47:45 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; madmaximus; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; ...
RE :”LINK? Proof? Evidence? of any kind? I saw the same thing said on this forum about Perry and Bachmann being in the tank for Romney.It is Bullcrap.

I was wondering why Newt is helping Romney beat Santorum and get the nomination. He should pull out and support Rick if he loves his children. Newt is a spoiler :)

HA-HA!

110 posted on 02/14/2012 11:49:58 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

*This is a guaranteed disaster. (AGAIN)*

We are dealing with the double down dumb here - incapable of learning and they aren’t pure principled conservatives because they are gaga over a candidate who LIES and campaigned for a pro abortion pro HOMO marriage candidate - which isn’t even a republican platform much less conservative! They aren’t attracted to good but evil. They are attracted to one who doesn’t walk what he talks - he is a deceiver. His lack of no exec experience and his big gov’t spending. Certainly nothing of any great accomplishment. One wouldn’t know that by just listening to him.

He’s not a conservative because he says he is -

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/01/06/what-a-big-government-conservative-looks-like/


111 posted on 02/14/2012 11:57:26 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Notary Sojac

“But he shot himself in the foot when he decided to attack Romney from the left, and he’s never recovered”

Talking about Romney’s support of homosexual “marriage” and abortion on demand is attacking him from the left?

Or do you mean when Newt talked about Romney being a vulture capitalist and ruining thousands of people’s lives so he could make more millions for himself and his corporate raiders. Many conservatives, including
Richard Viguerie, about as conservative as they come, had this to say about Romney and Bain capital.

http://www.conservativehq.com/article/6235-romneys-real-bain-capital-problem-hypocrisy


112 posted on 02/14/2012 12:16:22 PM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: Big Otto
Agreed.

I only voted for McFail because Palin was on the ticket. That's one thing that drives me crazy with Savage, saying the only reason he lost was because of Palin. Only reason he got what he did was because of her.

113 posted on 02/14/2012 12:54:32 PM PST by mykroar (I believe in the simplistic notion that people who have wealth are entitled to keep it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The liberal masters are happy with Santorum, as he cannot possibly win in the fall.

I’m going shopping for a saiga 12. When the currency has lost so much of its value that it cannot quell the zombie hoards, it will be time. I’m thinking 2-3 years, but it could happen during the election this fall.


114 posted on 02/14/2012 1:08:39 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: madmaximus

Interestingly, that makes it harder for Romney to attack him now, while it did nothing to help Romney win in 2008. So it hurt no one and helps Santorum beat Romney now.

IN fact, many things he is attacked for are like that. Most votes people complain about either would have passed easily anyway, or didn’t actually pass. But each “less than conservative” position can be used in the general election to refute the coming Obama storm of “far-right-radical” attacks.

I don’t think Santorum is really pro-union, but if his record shows he was fair to unions, it will be hard for Obama to paint him as anti-Union. Likewise, Santorum’s conservative softness on the minimum wage will make it hart to paint him as hating poor people, even though conservatives know the minimum wage hurts poor people. Obama can’t argue that.

Since Santorum isn’t going to be pushing union bills, or minimum wage bills, and he won’t have anything to do with earmarks, as President he’ll be just fine.


115 posted on 02/14/2012 1:11:06 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Born to Conserve

RE: as he cannot possibly win in the fall.

And your reason for saying that is ...


116 posted on 02/14/2012 1:11:37 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I think a lot of Rick’s support is anti-Romney.

I would prefer Newt over Rick over Romney, since it might be good for the world to think our leader is a little crazy and trigger happy. Think of “the bombing begins in five minutes”. Also, think how much effort we spend dealing with NK and Iran because their leaders are crazy. It may work in our favor,


117 posted on 02/14/2012 1:25:41 PM PST by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: presently no screen name
they are gaga over a candidate who LIES and campaigned for a pro abortion pro HOMO marriage candidate - which isn’t even a republican platform

You mean, Dede Scozafossa? Newt Gingrich Endorses Dede Scozzafava in NY-23 House race

Washington -- In a major coup for her campaign, Republican Dede Scozzafava today will pick up the endorsement of Newt Gingrich, one of the nation’s leading conservative figures and the architect of the “Republican Revolution” in the mid-1990s. “The special election for the 23rd Congressional District is an important test leading up to the mid-term 2010 elections,” Gingrich said in a statement to supporters. “Our best chance to put responsible and principled leaders in Washington starts here, with Dede Scozzafava.”
...
Gingrich is apparently willing to overlook Scozzafava’s support for same-sex marriage and abortion rights.
Oops. "campaigned for a pro-abortion pro-HOMO marriage candidate". That's your words, and there it is, Gingrich doing just that.

Now, in 2008, Santorum did endorse Mitt Romney. And it is true that Mitt Romney was pro-abortion at one time, and campaigned at one time for homosexual rights. Not in 2008 of course, when Santorum endorsed him, but many people figured they couldn't trust Romney's conservative platform in 2008.

But Dede didn't even pretend to have become pro-life, or anti-gay-marriage, when Newt endorsed her. Romney was SAYING he was pro-life, and against gay marriage, and was defending DOMA and a federal anti-gay-marriage amendment. DeDe was campaigning FOR gay marriage and FOR abortion rights when Newt endorsed her.

Now, I don't think endorsements are a good reason to reject candidates, but you apparently do, and think that a candidate who would endorse a pro-homosexual-marriage, pro-abortion canididate is evil and a deceiver. And using your own criteria, you would have to reject Newt Gingrich, who endorsed Dede.

118 posted on 02/14/2012 1:28:46 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: NKP_Vet
Or do you mean when Newt talked about Romney being a vulture capitalist and ruining thousands of people’s lives so he could make more millions for himself and his corporate raiders.

Yes, that is exactly what I am talking about. I have no problem with Bain, whatsoever, as long as they did not receive a government bailout. There are a lot of problems I have with Romney, but that's not one of them.

119 posted on 02/14/2012 1:31:02 PM PST by Notary Sojac (A liberal, a conservative, and a moderate walk into a bar. The bartender says, "Hi. Mitt!!".)
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To: NKP_Vet
Club for Growth Criticizes Newt Gingrich’s Attacks On Mitt Romney’s Income - 1/25/2012:
“Newt Gingrich says he’s a student of history, but he must have gone to the same school as Barack Obama if he is reaching the same wrong conclusion about economic freedom," said Club for Growth President Chris Chocola. “Mitt Romney made his money from putting capital to work to create jobs and economic growth. We should encourage, not criticize, such behavior. Newt Gingrich’s comment that Mitt Romney made money from ‘no work’ is ridiculous and continues his poisonous attack on economic freedom.”

Statement On Newt Gingrich’s Attacks On Mitt Romney And Bain Capital:

Newt Gingrich’s attacks on Mitt Romney’s record at Bain Capital are disgusting,” said Club for Growth President Chris Chocola. “There are a number of issues for Mitt Romney’s Republican opponents to attack him for, but attacking him for making investments in companies to create a profit for his investors is just wrong. Because of the efforts of Bain Capital, major companies like Staples, Domino’s Pizza, and the Sports Authority now employ thousands of people and have created billions in wealth in the private economy. Attacking Governor Romney for participating in free-market capitalism is just beyond the pale for any purported ‘Reagan Conservative.’ Newt Gingrich should stop his attacks on free markets and apologize to Governor Romney for them.”

Now, I know Club For Growth must be one of those establishment republican RINO organizations and all....

120 posted on 02/14/2012 1:32:39 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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