Posted on 02/11/2012 3:10:44 PM PST by ColdOne
In an NBC Dateline interview, one of the 911 operators who took the call from the social worker outside Josh Powell's house, breaks his silence.
In an exclusive interview with NBC's Keith Morrison, David Lovrak, who's been taking heat for his questions when Elizabeth Griffin-Hall called him, says he, like so many others in this case, didn't recognize the kind of man they were dealing with.
"Especially for somebody who has done this for as long as I have, to relisten to the call and hear how clumsy and faltering I sounded," Lovrak said, "It was horrible. This has been a nightmare."
The Pierce County Sheriff's office says the first call came in at 12:08 on Sunday. Five minutes later, at 12:13, information
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any mention of where Josh Powell’s mother is?
If I didn't remind myself, everyday, that God is still on His throne and sovereign, I would lose my mind.
I think Dad knows more than he's letting on (JMO) and 20/20 ran a story last night mentioning that a blood-stained blanket was found in Josh Powell's storage unit by police. I'm not going to be surprised if it turns out to be Susan's.
Just an average government hack. Soverign immunity should become a thing of the past. Start making government agencies carry liabilty insurance like any other business, and remove the statutory protections.
Just an average government hack. Soverign immunity should become a thing of the past. Start making government agencies carry liabilty insurance like any other business, and remove the statutory protections.
Just an average government hack. Soverign immunity should become a thing of the past. Start making government agencies carry liabilty insurance like any other business, and remove the statutory protections.
“any mention of where Josh Powell’s mother is?”
I found this strange story from last October: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/52682501-78/powell-josh-wrote-alina.html.csp?page=1
The social worker didn’t do a good job at all of conveying the urgency of the situation. Probably she couldn’t consciously accept what was going to happen though her subconscious recognized it.
If only she could have cut to the chase “The house is reeking of gasoline and I think he’s going to burn them up. Send police and fire right away.”
It’s really astonishing that he didn’t kill her as well - that she didn’t bear his revenge against the system that was “persecuting” him.
AMEN. Me, too--the looney bin for sure!
I think Dad knows more than he's letting on (JMO) and 20/20 ran a story last night mentioning that a blood-stained blanket was found in Josh Powell's storage unit by police. I'm not going to be surprised if it turns out to be Susan's.
I'll bet it's her blood, too, but why in the world would he not get rid of it?! But, what do I know?
You’re quite right. She was a sheeple lady with that dispatcher.
I smell gasoline? Powell just slammed the door in my face? I hear one of the boys crying?!!! This is a potential killer to begin with???
Yeah. The time for a little verbal “clarity” with that dispatcher was certainly in order.
Good thing he probably thought it would be too much of a hassle to bring her inside, too.
As crazy as that SOB was who knows. A trophy maybe?
One thing I do know is that his lawyer can’t help him now. God saw everything.
Yep.
Just an average Free Republic triple poster...
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Nothing in what you wrote, had she said it, would have made the police get there any sooner. Read what you wrote. You didn't mention a threat, you didn't mention danger to the children. You basically said that the father is being a disagreeable jerk, and is breaking the rules of child visitation.
The social worker can't tell the police that there is a threat if she wasn't aware of one. What you describe happens more than you'd probably ever want to know. People whose children are taken into care often antagonize the social workers who are in charge of that care. If this had stopped at the father opening the door and the kids being given back to the care of the social worker, it's doubtful the father would have even been arrested.
This man slaughtered those children, then blew up the house. The social worker didn't know it, though, until after the fact. She didn't have anything to say other than what she actually knew. She can't make stuff up and create a dangerous situation where one doesn't exist - if she did, would you want her to do it in the 99 other times this happened, but the kids come out 3 minutes later, unharmed?
I know a couple of social workers, and what they go through could make you cry.
Thank you for that link.
I read the transcript. I found it typical. The 911 dispatcher has to try to decide the priority of the situation.
As a result they become complacent in recognizing real dire situations because, they deal with so much trivial domestic disputes and minor crime.
It is a relatively low crime area with a very fast growing population. The fastest growing part of Washington.
While listening to the transcript is agonizing, the real fault belongs to whoever decided to allow visitation of a father under investigation for their mothers disappearance.
Out here the sheriff shows up to do the paper work after the fact.
I feel for the dispatcher, he definitely was not on the ball.
And how about including the MOST IMPORTANT piece of the puzzle, the LOCATION? Really, having the visit take place on Crazy Dad’s turf was a horrible blunder, but is it too much to ask that the social worker knows where the hell they are? Just how are emergency services to find them?
Besides, would it have been so hard for the social worker to call the police in advance of the visit, and let them know what was going on? It being a “high profile case” and Crazy Dad’s refusal to undergo psychosexual evaluation should have set things on edge.
I know I’m Monday-morning quarterbacking here, but come on! There’s plenty of blame to go around here. But I keep going back to the fact that this dingbat didn’t even know where she was and expected Superman to come rescue her and they boys!
Which begs the question how many others have they messed up?
Maybe we should worry about errors the child can live with.
If a child is taken away and there’s no problem, at some point the parent will be able to regain that child. But if the child is not taken away and there’s a problem, that child will have no chance.
I have a family member who works with abused children and I can’t tell you how ofent the court has sent back children to the abusive biological parent for “family reunification” or because it will make said parent feel better about him or herself...and the child ends up dead or hideously abused.
We should err on the side of the defenseless child. Adults can work it out later.
There is no way these kids should have been sent to visit their father at any time, even supervised (as this was supposed to be).
Ya, speaking of lawyers, know how to tell the difference between a dead chicken and a dead lawyer in the middle of the road? There’s skid marks in front of the chicken... That SOB lawyer knew something too...
Since Powell is dead, I don't think attorney/client privilege applies anymore (I could be wrong). So maybe he'll offer up more than the ‘I had a bad feeling’ crap he spewed in the 20/20 piece.
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