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Is Now The Time To Move Away From Major U.S. Cities?
The American Dream ^ | 1-26-2012 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 01/26/2012 4:44:50 PM PST by blam

Is Now The Time To Move Away From Major U.S. Cities?

January 26, 2011

As the U.S. economy falls apart and as the world becomes increasingly unstable, more Americans than ever are becoming "preppers". It is estimated that there are at least two million preppers in the United States today, but nobody really knows. The truth is that it is hard to take a poll because a lot of preppers simply do not talk about their preparations.
Your neighbor could be storing up food in the garage or in an extra bedroom and you might never even know it. An increasing number of Americans are convinced that we are on the verge of some really bad things happening.
But will just storing up some extra food and supplies be enough? What is going to happen if we see widespread rioting in major U.S. cities like George Soros is predicting? What is going to happen if the economy totally falls to pieces and our city centers descend into anarchy like we saw in New Orleans during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina? In some major U.S. cities such as Detroit, looting is already rampant.
There are some sections of Detroit where entire blocks of houses are being slowly dismantled by thieves and stripped of anything valuable. Sadly, the economy is going to get a lot worse than it is at the moment. So is now the time to move away from major U.S. cities? Should preppers be seeking safer locations for themselves and their families? Those are legitimate questions.

According to a recent Gallup poll, satisfaction with the government is now at an all-time low. Americans are rapidly losing faith in virtually every major institution in society.

Anger and frustration are rising to very dangerous levels, and we are rapidly approaching a boiling point.

When people feel as though they have lost everything, they get desperate.

And desperate people do desperate things.

In many communities in the United States today, crime has become so terrifying that people are literally sleeping with their guns.

The following is a story from Rancho Cordova, California that one of my readers recently sent me....

When I first moved here, it was not a bad place, it was quiet and clean.

However, over the past three years this place has gone to the dumps there are thugs and unruly people everywhere.

I have prevented two car break-ins by scaring these thugs away.

While I was home on thanksgiving weekend, someone decided to break into my apartment.

They trashed my place stole all my items and even took my law enforcement (LE) vehicle to include my equipment.

I m sure they had been watching me for a while because they did not take items that contained my identification.

Thank god, I had my weapon with me.

In many areas of the country, law enforcement resources are being dramatically cut back due to budget problems at the same time that crime is rapidly rising.

Right now, the city of Detroit is teetering on the verge of bankruptcy. Officials there recently announced that due to budget constraints, all police stations will be closed to the public for 16 hours a day. From now on, they will only be open to the public from 8 AM to 4 PM.

But in Detroit the police are needed now more than ever. The following is what one British reporter found during his visit to Detroit....

Much of Detroit is horribly dangerous for its own residents, who in many cases only stay because they have nowhere else to go. Property crime is double the American average, violent crime triple. The isolated, peeling homes, the flooded roads, the clunky, rusted old cars and the neglected front yards amid trees and groin-high grassland make you think you are in rural Alabama, not in one of the greatest industrial cities that ever existed.

The population of Detroit is less than half of what it used to be. Over the past few decades people have left in droves, and large sections of the city are in an advanced state of decay.

Not too many people want to buy homes in Detroit now. At this point, the median price of a home in Detroit is just $6000.

The following video contains some video footage of the "ruins of Detroit" that is hard to believe.....

(Go to the site to see a video)

Detroit has become a very scary place. 100 bus drivers in Detroit recently refused to drive their routes out of fear of being attacked on the streets. The head of the bus drivers union, Henry Gaffney, said that the drivers were literally "scared for their lives"....

“Our drivers are scared, they’re scared for their lives. This has been an ongoing situation about security. I think yesterday kind of just topped it off, when one of my drivers was beat up by some teenagers down in the middle of Rosa Parks and it took the police almost 30 minutes to get there, in downtown Detroit,” said Gaffney.

But it is not just Detroit that is having these kinds of problems.

In Cleveland, over 50 percent of all children are living in poverty and abandoned houses are everywhere.

The city has already demolished about 1,000 homes, and there is a plan to demolish 20,000 more homes. The following comes from a recent CBS News report by Scott Pelley....

Perfectly good homes, worth 75, 100 thousand dollars or more a couple of years ago, are being ripped to splinters in Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio. Here, the great recession left one fifth of all houses vacant. The owners walked away because they couldn't or wouldn't keep paying on a mortgage debt that can be twice the value of the home. Cleveland waited four years for home values to recover and now they've decided to face facts and bury the dead.

Down in St. Louis they have a different problem. In some of the worst areas of the city, roving packs of wild dogs are a serious threat to children that are walking to school. A recent report by the local CBS affiliate in St. Louis described the situation this way....

...Lewis Reed is sounding the alarm. "I’ve witnessed packs of dogs, 10 and 15 dogs running together, and I’ve seen all these dogs I’m talking about they don’t have collars, they don’t have tags, these are truly wild dogs," he said.

Reed says stray dogs are terrorizing the north side. "It’s obscene that parents have to walk their kids to school, in some parts of the city, with a golf club to fend off wild dogs."

How would you feel if you had to fend off wild packs of dogs as you walked your child to school?

These kinds of conditions can be found out on the west coast as well.

For example, there is an area of San Francisco that is known as "Hunter's Point" that is an absolute nightmare. In Hunter's Point, over half of the population lives in poverty and more than half of all children live in a home where there is no father present. The following is what one reporter discovered on a visit to Hunter's Point....

Abernathy and I cut through the complex, tromping over an expanse of dirt and concrete toward the northeast end of the development, where a row of apartments looked down from a grassy hill. We paused next to a vacant, boarded-over unit to take in the scene: A stream of ****, piss, tampons, and toilet paper spewed from a dark hole in the sidewalk, poured down the hill, and formed a sort of **** lagoon next to the street. Weeds, about six inches tall, were growing in the little lagoon.

Raw ****, obviously, is not cool. Beyond the fact that it smells and looks nasty, fecal matter provides a haven for dangerous bacteria, most notably E. coli, a virulent pathogen that can sicken and even kill humans, especially infants.

When conditions like this reign, it is a prime breeding ground for crime.

In major U.S. cities all over the United States, drug dealing, gang activity and prostitution are on the rise. The following comes from a recent article in the New York Times....

In November, a terrified 13-year-old girl pounded on an apartment door in Brooklyn. When a surprised woman answered, the girl pleaded for a phone. She called her mother, and then dialed 911.

The girl, whom I’ll call Baby Face because of her looks, frantically told police that a violent pimp was selling her for sex. He had taken her to the building and ordered her to go to an apartment where a customer was waiting, she said, and now he was waiting downstairs to make sure she did not escape. She had followed the pimp’s directions and gone upstairs, but then had pounded randomly on this door in hopes of getting help.

In some major U.S. cities, the gangs have virtually taken over. In an article entitled "City of Ruins", Chris Hedges described what life is like today in Camden, New Jersey....

There are perhaps a hundred open-air drug markets, most run by gangs like the Bloods, the Latin Kings, Los Nietos and MS-13. Knots of young men in black leather jackets and baggy sweatshirts sell weed and crack to clients, many of whom drive in from the suburbs. The drug trade is one of the city's few thriving businesses. A weapon, police say, is never more than a few feet away, usually stashed behind a trash can, in the grass or on a porch.

As I wrote about the other day, the FBI says that there are now 1.4 million gang members inside this country. That number has increased by 40 percent since 2009.

Organized criminal behavior by groups of young people is on the rise all over the nation. Just check out this video which shows a flash mob robbery happening in Montgomery County, Maryland.

Sadly, this is just the beginning.

This country is still enjoying a tremendous amount of prosperity. We still have a very high standard of living compared to most of the rest of the world.

So how nightmarish are things going to get when the economy gets really bad?

The most frightening thing is when these criminals start invading private homes.

The following home invasion story from Sacramento, California was sent to me by one of my readers a while back....

Somebody got into my sister's house last night while she was out. My mom was upstairs, but didn't hear anything. Whoever it was, they ate some chips and sorted through a stack of maternity clothes my sister had ready for selling on ebay. He left a dirty pair of boxer shorts and a bottom dentures on the dining room table. Fortunately, he was gone when she got home. I'm amazed, but the police actually came out and collected fingerprints and his boxers and false teeth. Probably a homeless guy. He may have switched his dirty boxers for a clean pair of maternity jeans, so the police just have to look for a guy wearing women's maternity pants with no lower teeth.

Because of stuff like this, an increasing number of Americans have decided that it is better to be armed.

The truth is that you never know when you will get jumped.

For example, in Pennsylvania the other day one 65-year-old man was suddenly knocked off his bicycle by three teen thugs.

The 65-year-old man responded by pulling out his gun and shooting two of them. One of the teens was killed.

Down along the border with Mexico, many ranchers have discovered that a gun battle could potentially erupt on any night. The federal government has refused to protect the border, and so millions of illegals just keep streaming on in. The following was recently posted on standwitharizona.com....

Barbed wire fencing doesn’t keep illegal aliens off the property anymore. One Starr County, TX rancher doesn’t have time to worry about the illegals these days. He now worries about the smugglers protecting their loads.

“I don’t think they would have any conscience of taking someone’s life,” the rancher says.

He saw that will to kill firsthand. A smuggler shot at him on his own land.

“One round was fired at me, and it missed my head by about two feet,” says the rancher.

He says there’s only way to react.

“Fire all the rounds you have, reload, and do it again,” says the rancher.

The more stories like this you read, the easier it is to understand why more than 10 million guns were sold in the United States during 2011.

The truth is that you never know when you may need to defend yourself.

This past New Year's Eve, a single mother named Sarah McKinley was home alone with her three-month old son when she discovered that two armed men were trying to invade her home. If she had not had a gun, there is no telling what might have happened. The following is from a news story about that incident....

An Oklahoma woman was recently home with her 3 month old son when two men tried to break in. Armed with a shot gun and a pistol she called 9-1-1.

Operator: "Are your doors locked?"

Caller: "Yes, I've got two guns in my hand. Is it ok to shoot him if he comes in this door?"

Operator: "I can't tell you what you can do but you do what you have to do to protect your baby."

The mother did shoot killing one of the intruders. Oklahoma police called the shooting justified.

What would you have done in that situation?

America is rapidly changing, and we all need to adapt to the new reality all around us.

The truth is that America is not the same place it used to be. In some U.S. cities, authorities are actually dumping dead bodies into mass graves.

Just check out what the Daily Mail says has been going on in Chicago....

It's a practice more closely associated with third world countries, but in bleak times in a Chicago-area suburb, 30 people were buried in a mass grave on Wednesday.

The pauper's burial section at Homewood Memorial Gardens was established for those who could not afford to pay for a burial plot.

And it is a problem that's sweeping America as tough economic times have led to an increase in the number of indigent burials the morgue must perform.

All over the country, major U.S. cities are flat broke and are rapidly decaying. They are filled with impoverished people that are rapidly becoming angrier and more frustrated.

There simply are not enough jobs for everyone. Millions of ordinary Americans spend their days agonizing over the fact that they cannot provide even a basic living for themselves and their families.

And as the economy gets even worse, the economic despair in this country is going to grow to unprecedented levels.

So is now the time to move away from major U.S. cities?

In the end, each of us is going to have to answer that question for ourselves.

Jobs are scarce, so if you have a good job right now it may not be wise to give it up. It can be incredibly challenging to move to a new area when you don't have a job.

One solution may be to move farther away from your current job so that you are in a more rural setting. But the rising cost of gasoline can make that a very expensive proposition.

Some families are purchasing second homes that they can "bug out" to in the event of a major disaster or emergency. But if your financial resources are limited that may not be an option for you.

In the final analysis, you have just got to do the best you can with what you have.

But if you are able to move, it is better to do it while times are relatively stable (like now) than when times are very unstable.

So what do all of you think?

Do you think that now is the time to move away from major U.S. cities?


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To: Grunthor

Do you live in WA? Do you realize that we no longer have a representative government, that we are being governed by boards and commissions full of NGOs? Do you realize that these unelected boards are flying helicopters over rural properties to inspect and photograph activity on these farms and large pieces of property?

It is full out war between rural property owners and the coalition of NGOs, politicians and crony capitalist partners, all lined up against the rural citizens.


161 posted on 01/27/2012 12:58:36 PM PST by Eva
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To: Mad Dawgg

Glenn Beck has a show already.

Independence USA premiered two weeks ago. So far they have camped in the woods, in a tent without taking any food. Dad and son took out a deer with a bow. Mom and sis got a wild turkey with a shotgun. This week, Dad started a “summer kitchen” then fed the workers the deer and turkey while lighting the night with batteries powered by their wood powered truck.

It’s been pretty okay but really much of their stuff is so “on the grid” it’s silly. The house has enough electric woodworking equipment that he could have his own PBS woodcraft show, they were cutting trees with the help of a cherry picker and all the nails went into the “summer kitchen” with electric nailguns.


162 posted on 01/27/2012 12:59:06 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: little jeremiah

Now the ugly reality.

Most people cannot and will not move to middle of nowhere as their are no jobs, and making a 30 mile round trip to a store, gas etc, is not going to happen. Fact is if SHTF, no one will be able to receive their retirement checks or anything else...When ya can’t even pay your property taxes, buy medications, feed your animals, or have electricity to pump water...Well... you get the picture. At that point, it won’t matter where ya live.


163 posted on 01/27/2012 12:59:26 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I would not live near a city for any money in the world. I’d rather have little money, no debt, and no groups of ferals for hundreds of miles.

That’s why I live where I live!


164 posted on 01/27/2012 12:59:54 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: netmilsmom

Of course - I have land, I need folks. You are welcome. I will build you a commode.


165 posted on 01/27/2012 12:59:54 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

If you read the blog by the guy who survived for a year in Yugoslavia, he said liquor is one of the most valuable trading items. Not only for drinking but for sterilizing.


166 posted on 01/27/2012 1:01:29 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: patton

You do rock!


167 posted on 01/27/2012 1:03:17 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Rocket scientist by trade, mathematician by training, teacher by vocation ... moonshiner by genetics.

Sugar, corn, and water are easy to find - that is why we had the whiskey rebellion.


168 posted on 01/27/2012 1:04:27 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: little jeremiah

No, you sound very paranoid for someone living in the middle of nowhere. Best of luck to ya.

And really, think about heading to the Amazon or Alaska. I hear it really isolated and rural in those places. You should be safe there.


169 posted on 01/27/2012 1:05:11 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: patton

LOL. Lord, I do love FR :)

May God bless and keep you FRiend.
Tatt


170 posted on 01/27/2012 1:05:55 PM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: dragnet2

I am not most people. What most people do is most peoples’ business. Each individual makes their choices. I strongly disagree that “it won’t matter where you live”. Where you live and how you live are the most important factors in surviving Hard Times.

Lessening or eliminating dependence on checks arriving in the mail is vital.

One example - you mentioned electricity to pump water. I have a well, got a solar well pump not long ago, have 1 solar panel but need one more, already have about 3000 gallons of holding tanks for water, which I already use, I pump water from the well now and then as needed.

So I am much better situated than anyone who uses their electric run well pump to fill a 30 or 60 gallon pressure tank many times a day. What to speak of people who depend on municipal water.

I don’t understand why you are saying nothing anyone does makes any difference. Doesn’t make sense!


171 posted on 01/27/2012 1:08:46 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: netmilsmom

Thank you, Ma’am.

;)


172 posted on 01/27/2012 1:09:19 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: dragnet2

Oh, I’m paranoid. I see. You think the future is going to be the same as the past.

Okay.


173 posted on 01/27/2012 1:10:27 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: relictele
East German style checkpoints and speed traps.

uh...you mean revenue traps.

174 posted on 01/27/2012 1:13:15 PM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: little jeremiah

Thanks for the tip.

(I like to tinkle inside if I can, though)


175 posted on 01/27/2012 1:13:23 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: thesearethetimes...

May God Bless and keep you, and you are welcome, too.

I need folks.

I have never understood governments that don’t understand that folks are their wealth.

For instance, in my little cabin in the woods, I need a couple of hundred freepers to defend it.

So let’s get to work.
We can expand the cabin as needed.

I think they call that a “castle”


176 posted on 01/27/2012 1:16:47 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: Wild Berry

There’s a whole theory that the rules of grammar that lead to odd constructions like that were perpetrated by the British upper class as a way to distinguish themselves from the masses and instantly identify impostors.


177 posted on 01/27/2012 1:21:51 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: little jeremiah

Oh, that thing. I knew I left someone unanswered...
Five-gallon poo-bucket. Poop inside, toss mulch on top.

Since we have no plumbing ...


178 posted on 01/27/2012 1:24:37 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: netmilsmom; patton

Oh, a composting toilet setup can totally be inside! We made a construction with a toilet seat on top and we slid buckets underneath it. Had a bucket of mulchy stuff next to it with a trowel. Do business, toss mulchy stuff, put lid on bucket, wash hands. voila. When bucket was full, slide out, slide new one in, carry full bucket outside with lid on but not super tight. When several full buckets accumulated, we’d upend them on the special compost pile just for them, or they could be dumped one at a time; letting them accumulate made it so many were already partially composted.

Putting mulchy stuff at the bottom of the toilet bucket before using it is good, or a piece or two of newspaper, facilitates dumping.

Tinkling is better done in a seperate vessel, men can easily go outdoors and for the ladies, regulation chamber pots with lids are still sold.

:-)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Enamel-Porcelin-Chamber-Pot-w-Lid-Some-Men-Smile-Evening-/140689964392?pt=Antiques_Decorative_Arts&hash=item20c1c67d68

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Red-White-Enamelware-Chamber-Pot-w-Fluted-Sides-Wood-Handle-Set-2-/260939828733?pt=Antiques_Decorative_Arts&hash=item3cc139cdfd

I like the second one.


179 posted on 01/27/2012 1:32:07 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: netmilsmom

Oh, here’s another nice one. Ebay also has porcelain ones but a breakable chamber pot?@?!?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/metal-chambers-pot-closet-lid-old-handle-enamel-pail-kentucky-home-/300653914063?pt=Antiques_Decorative_Arts&hash=item46005ea7cf


180 posted on 01/27/2012 1:33:31 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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