Posted on 01/26/2012 5:55:04 AM PST by RaceBannon
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{we need attorneys at the level of Mark Levin/Landmark Legal or other Constitutional scholars }
The fact that we don’t have them speaks volumes. It is obvious to anyone with common sense that something is very, very questionable about this president. The corruption must be so deep that we will never know the truth.
It is Mark Levin who is corrupt. There is no excuse for ignoring Obama's eligibility. And..."Ditto"...for that other guy.
“The judge heard each of the three cases separately. The attorneys can only object in their own case, not the other cases, IIRC. So Orly could not object to the COLB and LFBCs being placed into evidence as presumed (not authenticated) to be genuine.”
The COLB and Long Form BC were printed out off a webpage and entered into the record as proof Obama was born in Hawai’i. The Judge admitted it without hearing an objection. It’s an undisputed fact on the Court record. Raised seals, registrar signatures, out of sequence numbers, layers, fonts, borders and folds become moot after a Judge enters evidence into the record.
There were 3 cases heard and one opinion will be issued to the GA SoS. Obama’s COLB is an admitted fact by the petitioner and the Indonesian school record has been reduced to irrelevancy.
Upholding clear language in the Constitution and precedent IS absolutely necessary...as exemplified by the Roberts Courts rulings that affirmative action is a form of unconstitutional reverse discrimination.
The alleged HI LFBC appears to be forged to me and I don't care what race the person is if they use forgery to dupe the American people into believing they are eligible to be POTUS.
(e) documentary evidence in the form of copies if the original is not readily available, if its use would unduly disrupt the records of the possessor of the original, or by agreement of the parties. Upon request, parties shall have an opportunity to compare the copy with the original. Documentary evidence may also be received in the form of excerpts, charts, or summaries when, in the discretion of the Administrative Law Judge, the use of the entire document would unnecessarily add to the records length. The entire document shall be made available for examination or copying, or both, by other parties at a reasonable time and place.
http://www.osah.ga.gov/documents/procedures/administrative-rules-osah.pdf
His birthplace, while important, wasn't the issue.
"The point is, to be a natural born citizen, one must have 2 parents who, at the time of the birth in question, be citizens of the United States. As Obamas father was not a citizen, the argument is that Obama, constitutionally, is ineligible to serve as President."
To me, the various BCs and the passages from obama's books were presented to document obama's knowledge/contention that obama Sr. wasn't a citizen, not that the BCs were genuine or not.
It's those documents source, obama, not their validity, that is most interesting. Moreover, now entered as evidence, their authenticity was questioned by Mr. Gogt.
"Mr. Gogt testifies that the birth certificate, posted online by Obama, is suspicious. States white lines around all the type face is caused by unsharp mask in Photoshop. Testifies that any document showing this, is considered to be a fraud."
ping my above posts
Admitting Obama’s BC establishes it as a factual representation of the data in Obama’s birth file. As to Obama Sr., you proved he was not born in the U.S. So what? He may have intended to become a U.S. Citizen.
In Minor v Happersett, Mrs. Minor sued Happersett because she was denied an opportunity to register to vote, while Happersett would register male, non-U.S. citizens living in Missouri to vote if they stated an intent to become a U.S. Citizen in the future.
SCOTUS affirmed and deferred to the State of Missouri in this issue, i.e. the State of Missouri could deny a woman born and raised in Missouri the right to vote and oblige non-U.S. citizen males the right to vote if they intended to become U.S. citizens in the future.
Obots are thrilled this evening.
If the COLB and long-form from the internet were admitted as evidence, then would the parties have the ability now to compare the “copy” with the original?
stupid is as stupid does....
That’s an interesting idea, but I dont think so the wording is not clear on that, but it might have been worth a try...the judge should be able to do so IMO.
In the church they have a way of getting people to attend meetings: appoint them to jobs if they’re not at the meeting to object. lol
If Judge Malihi wanted Obama to be REALLY sorry that he chose to vacation/campaign instead of heeding the order to appear, he could just go ahead and compare the copies to the original... and then tell everybody what he found...
Of course, we all know the HDOH wouldn’t cooperate. Maybe he could hold them in contempt of court then too. I don’t know if he has any power to force them to let him see the original though.
Did you see the HDOH’s Motion to Dismiss Duncan Sunahara’s case? They are totally ignoring UIPA, which says an agency can only refuse disclosure of a record - including personal records - by citing one of the exemptions to disclosure. And anything expressly authorized by law to be disclosed is a REQUIRED disclosure. The UIPA Manual says that ALL requests for government records - even personal records (which would include vital records) are governed by UIPA.
What that whole thing tells me is that the HDOH is DESPERATE to keep the original birth certificates hidden. They know there is a problem with the BC numbering and don’t want to have to forge all the originals from August 1961 to match what they put for numbers on the COLB’s they’ve issued recently to try to make the BC# discrepancies go away. That’s what I suspect anyway.
BTW, I was just saying on another thread that we’re having coconut cream and pineapple cream pie to celebrate tonight. Kind of a Hawaiian theme. lol. I wish I could host a celebration for everybody here who has stayed firm through thick and thin. That includes you and a bunch of others. =)
Come February the nation will receive the final results of the Cold Case Posses criminal investigation. The Maricopa County Sheriff will make public a formal report which will likely detail the extraordinary amount of fraudulent conduct on the part of numerous government officials. Speculation is rife that high-ranking individuals within the US Federal Government, Democratic Party, State of Hawaii, MSM, among many other complicit parties will be implicated in this highly complex and convoluted conspiracy to defraud the American people.
At the very least this behavior has been described as treasonous, and therefore meets the level of high crimes and misdemeanors necessary for the formal impeachment of the President. However, the critical constitutional questions, which will surely emerge from such a scenario, are of much greater importance for the continued functioning of the nation. For instance, all of the government business conducted by an illegitimate executive branch might be considered legally null and void. Furthermore, such a predicament would force the immediate dissolution of the current Administration.
you lost today - get over it!
Hopefully this case will get a foot in the door towards the truth and outing HDOH. That case needs to go to court, if they are really corrupt it might lose but then everyone will know they are hiding something...not just us. What a tangled web they now have to weave because they first practiced to deceive.
Chick the only thing that needs to be understood, lawyers make millions obfuscating common sense. This 900+ posts on this thread provokes the point.
The president is either a fraud or he is not, the whole issue could be resolved for $12.00 or so. Why are millions changing hands? Lawyers.
No, the BC (along with the passages from the books he supposedly wrote) was a factual representation of obama's own narrative of his story, specifically that his father is a foreign national from Africa and not an American citizen.
The documents obama has used to support that narrative, the various BCs along with his SSN, were then shown to be fraudulent.
Whatever obama Sr.'s intentions may have been to become a citizen or not are irrelevant if he wasn't a US citizen when little Barry was born.
If the obots are thrilled, perhaps it's because they enjoy watching obama's con job on We, the People come apart? I know I'm enjoying it.
Come February the nation will receive the final results of the Cold Case Posses criminal investigation.
The Maricopa County Sheriff will ..."
. . . . See # 994 for more info, and link.
Thanks, Brown Deer.
Hi Danae,
“What the heck really happened today? “
If this hasn’t been answered for you yet. This hearing is only about the Primary election in March. It will decide who the Georgia delegates vote for at the Democratic Convention in September. It has nothing to do with the general election in November.
The delegates will go to the Convention as undecided, free to vote for whoever they want.
In fact, it is possible that the convention could draft an entirely different candidate(one who was not even in the primaries).
After the convention there will be another certificate of candidacy. There could be additional challenges then but “standing” might be an issue just as it was in 2008.
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