Posted on 01/26/2012 5:55:04 AM PST by RaceBannon
Article II SUPERPAC streaming live video and audio at this link
Excellent! Well played, sir!
Yep sure did.
I actually knew a guy that knew Charles Manson. Had a picture of him and Charlie standing with their arms around each others shoulders.
Could have passed for Manson’s twin brother.
Gave me such a case of the butt puckers I couldn’t let him ride in the back seat while I was driving.
It’s already happening. There’s a link here in the thread to an Atlanta Journal-Constitution reporter’s blog at their site, who was in the courtroom, and all he does is talk about Taitz. I nicely gave him a hard time about it in the comments.
What do you think about Sven’s comments, Red?
Minor v. Happersett is a SCOTUS opinion about states rights as it pertains to the privileges and immunities clause of the Constitution. The SCOTUS opinion mentions in dicta, or conversation about the case, a native born with two citizen parents is undoubtedly a Natural-born citizen. It also states there are other scenarios where a person would be considered a Natural-born citizen, but the Court chose not to address the specific issues.
The Judge refused to enter Obama’s Indonesian school record, while allowing Plaintiffs to enter copies of Obama’s COLB and long form BC as authenticated and certified documents of his birth record.
Anyone who thinks Judge Malihi will rule Obama is not qualified based on this is kidding themselves. It’s a set up.
I thought she was giving permission so I did
lol
Minor v. Happersett (1874), 21 Wall. 162, 166-168. The decision in that case was that a woman born of citizen parents within the United States was a citizen of the United States, although not entitled to vote, the right to the elective franchise not being essential to citizenship.
The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their [p168] parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens.
Thanks for playing.
I didn't follow the entire proceedings, but at the beginning the birth certificate was entered into evidence as being downloaded from the White House website. That's hardly authenticated and certified.
I don’t know which was first, but both had the same idea.
It has been relatively quiet in the Fogbow website since (I would say) Monday evening when it became apparent that Jablonski had not filed a motion to reconsider denying the motion to quash the Obama subpoena. The overall quality of the commentary seems to be rather low and studded with vulgarities and pejoratives— more heat than light much of the time IMHO.
I think a sizable number of the Fogbow lawyers might have gone into lurk mode at that time, just waiting and hoping that some good news for them would drop out of the sky... :-)
This just in from the CBS media:
Judge Considers Whether To Keep Obama On The Ballot
http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/16607410/judge-considers-whether-to-keep-obama-on-ballot
The article mentions no word of the Attorneys arguing Minor v Happersetts definition of a natural born Citizen at all nor does the article mention that Obama’s father was born in Kenya and was a British Citizen. The article never mentions any of that but the CBS article chose to mention the fact that Mitt Romneys dad was born in Mexico and the Santorums dad was born in Italy. How about that spin? You can’t say CBS is not in the tank for Obama, they are with this deceptive story minutes after the court proceedings was over. Here is the article:
ATLANTA (CBS ATLANTA)
... Similar complaints have been filed in other states. None have been successful.
Jablonski said Obama has long made his birth certificate and other documents proving his citizenship available to the public.
The Georgia complaint wants to keep Obama’s name off the state’s presidential primary ballot in March.
Similarly, Mitt Romney’s father was born in Mexico and Rick Santorum’s father was born in Italy.
No one has filed a complaint about either of those candidates’ eligibility.
Also, attorney Orly Taitz, one of the prime movers in the birther movement, called a witness who claimed the President’s social security number appeared to be fraudulent, saying the number was for someone born in 1890 not 1961, the year the President was born.
Taitz put herself on the stand. She claims the president was born in Indonesia and went under different names as a young student during his time in Indonesia.
Taitz claims the president committed fraud and forgery on his birth certificate and social security number. She asked the judge to find the president in contempt for failing to show up in court.
Going out with war/riots/fire? How will you survive out there with all your fears? Taking a dog with you?
And sure it is they have that, race war, as one of their master plans. Or “mastermind” plan to borrow an older wise torn of phrase recently revitalized by Mark Levin.
Yet they, the SDS and SDS-phile academic, professional and bureaucratic radicals are exactly like many white-topia honkies of a insulated and conservative bent. They often live in the paralleled places and life flows. The same kind of materialistic asperations, the same kind of vacations, jobs, etc.
Down in the nitty gritty of life where the races and classes truly intermingle every day, and even in the blackest of black places, there is no race war. There are the idiots born of single moms in neighborhoods full of welfare takers and mostly single mommies, as adolescent males absent strong males in their lives they band together using any easy commonality as a joint, that is often race, but even more often group-membership, gang-that-is.
Feral groups of them will be black hitting on whites or chicanos, or asians — but there is not one Chaka Khan among them, they are not tribal warriors. They are feral gangs of young men and even girls, they do not organize up at all.
There will be no race war.
are not the
The left can get limited power without violence, but they cannot get and keep absolute power without violence.
A free people will not become slaves of the state without a fight.
that’ll learn me...
Minor v. Happersett (1874), 21 Wall. 162, 166-168. The decision in that case was that a woman born of citizen parents within the United States was a citizen of the United States, although not entitled to vote, the right to the elective franchise not being essential to citizenship.
The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their [p168] parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens.
I just noticed something from the CBS article. It claims Taitz said Obama was born in Indonesia. I don’t remember her stating that in Court. In fact I have never heard her make that claim. Have any of you?
The Judge asked the non-Orly Plaintiffs if was an objection to entering the COLB and Long Form BC downloaded and copied from the web as authenticated and certified documents and they did not object. The documents were entered as undisputed fact.
All the Judge knows is that Obama was born in Hawai’i. He disallowed the evidence of Obama’s Indonesian school record. As far as the Judge is concerned, Obama was born an American and stay an American is whole life.
Plaintiff’s are basing their entire argument on the fact Obama’s father was not born in the US, so Obama can’t be eligible. It’s a set up.
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