Just in from Orly’s site.
See Post # 1,312.
Thanks, Elderberry, good find.
Posted on 01/26/2012 5:55:04 AM PST by RaceBannon
Article II SUPERPAC streaming live video and audio at this link
Don’t forget that Kevin Davidson aka Dr. Conspiracy was there at the hearing. He’s just as bad as Foggy.
See: http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=6845&start=5625
It is amusing to realize that they are so lacking in their own wisdom that they have to borrow some from me. We can only hope they continue reading what I write and learn something from it. :)
[M]ost of the lawyer types argue (Incorrectly in my opinion) that if you are “born” a citizen, then you are a “natural born citizen.” This notion seems quite pervasive among the legal @ssholes i’ve argued with, and there is no reason to think that it isn't a ubiquitous belief among lawyer types including sitting Federal judges. - DiogenesLamp, posting at Free Republic
Of course, to refute this belief, I am fond of pointing out that Aldo Mario Bellei (of Rogers v Bellei) was "born a citizen" but lost his citizenship for failure to meet residency requirements. Why does this matter? Because a "natural born citizen" HAS no residency requirements. Ergo, they are not the same thing.
“I’m open to the possibility that I’m just being too picky and making a mountain out of a mole hill, but when I see sneaky sounding verbiage in a document like this, it makes me think that the lawyer is fully aware that what he wants people to think he means is quite a bit different from what he really means.”
I agree. Obviously, I don’t think they are stupid enough to knowingly submit false documents to the court but their pleadings are interesting.
I was also thinking about the lawyer sent to Hawaii to pick up the BC hard copies. Ex. She would know that what she picked up didn’t match what Obama soon presented to the public. The hand stamps on the BC were in the exact same place. Unless Hawaii was the one who forged the BC and gave her a printouts she knows that what he presented to the public is different. How is that not aiding the fraud?
Then we have DOJ lawyers arguing on his behalf. How about his tax attorney and the SSN#? And Bauer from the beginning.
One would think that they are not stupid enough to cross the line but where is that line? I think when all is revealed there should be a review of just what his lawyers did.
One other rambling thought. If as believed (that he’s a usurper), this crime is an on-going situation.
At what point are these lawyers required to ask questions of him?
Look at the situation with Fast & Furious.
Federal prosecutor cites Fifth in ‘Fast and Furious’ probe
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2835463/posts
“The chief of the criminal division in the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Arizona has cited his Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination”
Lol! Perfect graphic.
Now I understand why the Befoggers monkey-turd fling the term ‘nutburgers’ around so frantically. It’s just more of the ubiquitous projection that marks the site. They’re hoping if they furiously label enough people ‘nutburgers’, it will deflect attention from the creepy mental weirdness that pervades their site...starting right at the top.
In my favored scenario:
1. Bauer (at the time WH counsel) outsources the LFBC pdf forgery to a trusted non-lawyer operative in the WH basement (no paper or e-mail trail back to Bauer...they hope)...who screws up and fails to flatten the file.
2. Bauer instructs that the LFBC pdf be e-mailed to Abercrombie or an Abercrombie operative (no paper trail back to Bauer)
3. Abercrombie "instructs" (conspires with) Fuddy to have the forged LFBC pdf certified with Onaka's signature stamp and to prepare a statement stating that the image is genuine. In HI, only Abercrombie and Fuddy need be corrupt with Onaka thrown in. Note that none of these are lawyers subject to the severe crime of committing a fraud on the court and loss of law license.
4. The Perkins Coie lawyer Judith Corley, who was Obama's personal Lawyer at the time, does not witness the alleged copying of the LFBC from the 1961 bound book, but ONLY picks up the two certified photocopies...so Perkins Coie is protected from personal involvement in the forgery.
5. On June 2, Bauer resigns as WH counsel (public employee with no personal attorney client privilege) and resumes his former position as top Obama eligibility defender at Perkins Coie replacing Judith Corley (back to being her boss). I believe that when the "layers" were discovered in the WH pdf of the LFBC, it became "too hot" for Bauer not to regain attorney client privilege with Obama immediately so that Bauer could direct defense of the pdf. Note that Fuddy only says that what she gave Judith Corley was genuine, but not that the WH LFBC pdf image is genuine. Here is the important part of Abercrombie and Fuddy's official statements:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=judith%20corley%20flew%20to%20hawaii%20onaka%20fuddy&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CDgQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fhawaii.gov%2Fhealth%2Fvital-records%2FNews_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf&ei=c8QmT4zrDNOctweFzMyKDg&usg=AFQjCNFvRqQPSqNBn3_WiZqvdzqVvHDVXA&sig2=SVRLpAG7JhO7XdM7HyaHjA
“We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai„i,” Hawai„i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai„i.”
"On April 22, 2011, President Obama sent a letter to Director Fuddy, requesting two certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth. Also on that day, Judith Corley, the President‟s personal attorney, made the same request in writing on behalf of the President. (Letters from President Obama and Ms. Corley are attached).
"On April 25, 2011, pursuant to President Obama‟s request, Director Fuddy personally witnessed the copying of the original Certificate of Live Birth and attested to the authenticity of the two copies. Dr. Alvin Onaka, the State Registrar, certified the copies.
"President Obama authorized Ms. Corley to pick up the documents. On April 25, 2011, Ms. Corley appeared in person at the Hawai„i State Department of Health building in Honolulu, paid the requisite fee, and was given the two certified copies, a response letter from Director Fuddy to President Obama, and a receipt for payment."
Certified transcripts of all three hearings are up on Scribd!
Farrar (Orly):
Swensson:
Welden:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/79854233/Georgia-Welden-v-Obama-Certified-Transcript-1-26-12-Hearing-tfb
Page 19
MS. TAITZ: Keep going quickly, move, down, down, down, down. Keep going, keep going, keep going. More, more, more. Yes, stop.
Page 20:
MS. TAITZ: Keep going, keep going — higher — no, down, down little bit. No, up, up, go up. Stop, down, down – I apologize. Up — go down. Just one second, please. More, more, more, more, more. Stop, stop. Okay, little bit lower, little bit lower, little bit lower. ....
Page 25:
MS. TAITZ: Okay. Let's look at the next point. Go a little bit higher — no, down. Okay. No, no, down, down, down. No. Stop, stop, stop.
Page 39:
MS. TAITZ: Keep going, keep going. Now — stop.
Per Fogbower wag ZorbasLeGreque:
“She really tells you how she likes it ..... Much better than afterwards complaining about your (missing) skills .......”
Per SeizetheCarp:
Orly could get the last laugh, having gotten at least some portion of her evidence into Malihi’s “findings of fact” unapposed by Obama’s legal lackeys.
Thank you for the link!
This Alabama action in a court of law offers more promise than that in GA, which occurred in an administrative hearing that could only render an advisory opinion.
If plaintiffs included birthplace in their pleadings, it appears the O team will finally be exposed to a judicial inquiry regarding birth documents. If they do not appear there is an excellent chance he will not be allowed on the ballot.
Importantly, it would seem that even if its SOS does not have statutory authority (?) to determine who shall be on its ballots by reference to NBC eligibility, the court could conclude it has inherent authority to deny ballot access to patently unqualified candidates. Such a label will certainly apply if O fails to produce a credible BC.
Unfortunately, if he does produce we should be prepared that a state supreme court may disregard the clear language of Art II and hold the term “natural born” remains undefined
Alabama’s Supreme Court may be the first to hear this dispute; alternatively, it may be the first state O decides to abandon.
Thanks for this info. I hope AL knows not to waste time on any original [Obama] ‘birth record’ that isn’t “half handwritten”. The Obama rump-swab fanny-smoochers have done a fairly good job of burying that description, but it is real, firsthand eye-witness testimony [Fukino’s]. I just hope someone in AL is aware of it.
Nice job! What a scumbag!
Just in from Orly’s site.
Still trying to get a look at the BC from Hawaii
Farrar v Obama Request for Leave of Court to Petition Supreme Court for Letters Rogatory 1
HONORABLE MICHAEL MALIHI
DEPUTY CHIEF JUDGE OSAH
STATE OF GEORGIA
DAVID FARRAR, :
LEAH LAX, :
CODY JUDY, : DOCKET #: OSAH-SECSTATE-.
THOMAS MacLaren : CE-1215136-60-MALIHI :
Plaintiffs, :
v. :
:
:
BARACK OBAMA
:
Defendant. :
_________________________________ __ _:
EMERGENCY REQUEST FOR leave of court to petition the Fulton county Superior Court for a letter rogatory to seek from the state of HI under Rule 616-1-2 production of an original birth certificate of the defendant in lieu of a copy proffered by the defense in 01.25.2012 letter to Secretary of State Kemp and carbon copied to this court.
ARGUMENT
Farrar v Obama Request for Leave of Court to Petition Supreme Court for Letters Rogatory 2
Current request for leave of court is filed for a limited purpose of seeking a letter rogatory to the judicial authority in the state of Hawaii, seeking production of an alleged original birth certificate. This request is done in accordance with rule 616-1-2 and in light of the fact, that in the 01.27.2012 order this court ruled, that it has no jurisdiction to issue a letter rogatory to the state of HI. This request is done in parallel with current proceedings and with the reservation of rights of the plaintiffs to file a summary of points of law and facts by February 1, as ordered by this court.
On January 25, 2012 Defendant by and through his attorney sent a letter to the Secretary of State of GA Brian Kemp and carbon copied this letter to this court and to the plaintiffs. The letter contained mostly gratuitous attacks on the plaintiff’s counsel and on the court and had as an attachment a computer image of an alleged long form birth certificate of the Defendant. The letter in question was seeking to remove this case from this court. Secretary of State Kemp denied the request. Defendant never showed up in court for trial. The trial was conducted in his absentia. Defendant never introduced into evidence any documents proving his natural born US citizen status. However, the image attached with the aforementioned letter, was used with improper purpose to influence this court, the Secretary of State of GA, media and public at large. Aforementioned letter was widely quoted in the media and the image in question was included in multiple
Farrar v Obama Request for Leave of Court to Petition Supreme Court for Letters Rogatory 3
telecasts. Taitz, Plaintiffs attorney, had to endure multiple threatening and harassing phone calls, e-mails and messages as a result of this letter.
Rule 616-1-2 states:
Chapter 616-1-2 Administrative Rules of Procedure
purpose of resolving the differences so as to make the record conform to the truth.
(f) Documents and things produced for inspection during the examination of the witness shall,
upon the request of a party, be marked for identification and attached to and filed with the
deposition, and may be inspected and copied by a party. Copies may be substituted for originals
if each party is given an opportunity to compare the proffered copy with the original to verify its
correctness. (emphasis added)
As the defendant sent aforementioned letter to this court, claiming it to be a copy of his original birth certificate, and in light of the testimony at trial by experts Felicito Papa, Douglas Vogt and senior deportation officer John Sampson, stating that aforementioned image is a forgery, there is a need to examine the original under 616-1-2.
As this court ruled on January 27, 2012, that it does not have jurisdiction to issue a letter rogatory, Plaintiffs respectfully request a leave of court to file a petition for a letter rogatory with the Superior court of the Fulton county, Georgia. Such letter will seek
Farrar v Obama Request for Leave of Court to Petition Supreme Court for Letters Rogatory 4
reciprocal cooperation by the First Circuit court of Hawaii in issuing subpoena for the original birth certificate in question.
Plaintiffs assert, that this limited request will not interfere with their planned submission of the summary of points and authorities of law and fact by the February 1 deadline as ordered by this honorable court.
Plaintiffs submit that such letter rogatory and ultimate retrieval of the original birth certificate, if it is valid and if it even exists, will be beneficial for the ultimate resolution of the matter in case of any appeals and in order to assure consistency of judgment and elections in all 50 states.
Respectfully submitted
/s/ Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ
counsel for the Plaintiffs 01.30.2012
I. Orly Taitz, attest that I served above pleadings on the defendant through his counsel Mr. Jablonski at michael.jablonski@comcast.net
/s/ Orly Taitz
01.30.2012
OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE WashingtonAmerica.Com challenges Fogbow
Orly is arguing defendant in essence did indeed appear via pre-hearing copy to the ALJ of its letter to the SOS, and in so doing offered a forged BC for the record!
Could have legs. Imagine she could also ask that the WH be required to produce a hard copy of what was posted on the internet. Will the O team have the guts to produce a hard copy it will represent is certified by HI?
His BC must of been printed on Unobtainium!
You know they’ll Never part with it!
Nonetheless, it may be enough that if the request is productive, Orly can merely show any differences between HI's documents and what was delivered to the SOS.
Now the issue is more serious than simple denial of access to the ballot.
Just in from Orly’s site.
See Post # 1,312.
Thanks, Elderberry, good find.
Don't want anyone to miss an Alabama Court announcement posted on # 1,272.
Thanks, Fred Nerks.
The article on Alabama was dated 1/13.
Does anyone know its current status?
Alabama Ballot Lawsuit Dismissed
I have seen information on a MA challenge. I will track that down later.
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