Posted on 01/21/2012 6:43:43 AM PST by tomkat
It's 0930 EST and there's nothing in the sidebar that looks like a live thread for the SC primary . . .
If I recall correctly, Newt was not a Catholic during his previous marriages.
He converted in 2008.
Why would he get an annulment on marriages that were not in the Catholic faith?
As a lapsed Catholic, I recall they do not count marrigaes as valid if it is not performed in the faith.
For that you have to go back to the sacrament. Marriage must be witnessed.
You can’t have marriage in secret.
RCP Tweet:
“Bill Moyers: If Newt Is Elected I Will Be Glad I Saved My Confederate Money
You seem unable to understand that, instead, you claim that salvation comes from physical separation only. If Newt and Calista have asked for forgiveness for all their sins and keep the spirit of Christ in their hearts from that point, they both are regarded as innocent and new. Therefore, their marriage is as righteous as are those who have been married in virtue to one person their entire life.
To claim otherwise, is the true meaning of a hypocrite who known nothing about Christianity or it's true doctrine.
I is equally hypocritical to claim that because you are Catholic, you have a “Right” to judge others, Catholics or otherwise. In all Biblical Law, there is no such Right.
If you still make that ridiculous claim then quote to all of us, the exact Scripture from the New Testament that proves it.
It strikes me as haunting the way the poster commands us that ‘The Catechism agrees with’ her! I seem to recall the Pharisees using the same arrogant approach when they tried to trap Jesus over the woman taken in adultery and about to be stoned. They argue with jesus that ‘Moses agrees with them’ ... and the response Jesus made was to stoop down and begin writing int he dust. We will never know what He was writing, but perhaps it was the names of consorts of these same Pharisees. Whatever He was writing, the mob slinked away, leaving Jesus to ask the woman ‘Where are your accusers?’ At least the Pharisees had the good sense to realize they had aligned themselves in such a way that they were demanding God agree with them, rather than they bowing to God’s Grace. The poster doesn’t seem to catch that nuance, yet.
And what would have ever prompted me to study up on Neil Cavuto, pray tell?
I don’t think he’s being disingenous. I think that he truly does love Callista.
The problem is that he’s still married to Jackie, and she is still alive. The argument has never been that Newt is dishonest about it - which is good, the problem is that how can you say that his new marriage is valid while the old one is not?
That’s not even getting into Marianne either, which is a whole different story.
It strikes me as haunting the way the poster commands us that ‘The Catechism agrees with’ her! I seem to recall the Pharisees using the same arrogant approach when they tried to trap Jesus over the woman taken in adultery and about to be stoned. They argue with Jesus that ‘Moses agrees with them’ ... and the response Jesus made was to stoop down and begin writing int he dust. We will never know what He was writing, but perhaps it was the names of consorts of these same Pharisees. Whatever He was writing, the mob slinked away, leaving Jesus to ask the woman ‘Where are your accusers?’ At least the Pharisees had the good sense to realize they had aligned themselves in such a way that they were demanding God agree with them, rather than they bowing to God’s Grace. The poster doesn’t seem to catch that nuance, yet.
Oh fine, let’s quote Reagan:
“It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.”
“Welfare’s purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.”
“There are those in America today who have come to depend absolutely on government for their security. And when government fails they seek to rectify that failure in the form of granting government more power. So, as government has failed to control crime and violence with the means given it by the Constitution, they seek to give it more power at the expense of the Constitution. But in doing so, in their willingness to give up their arms in the name of safety, they are really giving up their protection from what has always been the chief source of despotism — government.”
“I’m convinced that today the majority of Americans want what those first Americans wanted: A better life for themselves and their children; a minimum of government authority. Very simply, they want to be left alone in peace and safety to take care of the family by earning an honest dollar and putting away some savings. This may not sound too exciting, but there is something magnificent about it. On the farm, on the street corner, in the factory and in the kitchen, millions of us ask nothing more, but certainly nothing less than to live our own lives according to our values —at peace with ourselves, our neighbors and the world.”
“Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.”
“You and I are told increasingly that we have to choose between a left or right, but I would like to suggest that there is no such thing as a left or right. There is only an up or down — up to a man’s age-old dream; the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order — or down to the ant heap of totalitarianism, and regardless of their sincerity, their humanitarian motives, those who would trade our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course.”
” Freedom and the dignity of the individual have been more available and assured here than in any other place on earth. The price for this freedom at times has been high, but we have never been unwilling to pay the price.”
“Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.”
“The ten most dangerous words in the English language are ‘Hi, I’m from the government, and I’m here to help.’”
“I hope we once again have reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There’s a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: As government expands, liberty contracts.”
” Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders. ... The Goliath of totalitarianism will be brought down by the David of the microchip.”
And all of these quotes stand for the ideals Santorum rejects.
Abraham “The Father of our faith” (According to Paul) was an adulterer who God not only forgave, but also called “His Friend”.. Who is to condemn a man that claims forgiveness in The Lord?? Just saying..
I know...... *sniff*
Are you Catholic, MHGinTN?
Newt is, and I am. What makes you qualified to discuss what the Catholic church teaches on this issue.
I am not saying that those who are not Catholic are bound to the same rules that the Catholic church binds itself. Hardly.
Those who are not Catholic are free to practice divorce, gay marriage, whatever they want. They are not being held to the same standard as those within the Church.
So if you don’t like the Catechism, that’s fine, but those who are Catholic are supposed to abide by what the Catechism teaches.
Will you people just listen to yourselves?????
You are arguing like children, over something that has NOTHING AT ALL to do with running the United States of America.
I’m sorry Jesus Christ decided not to run, but there you have it, You are stuck with Earthly men, with earthly failings.
Now will you PLEASE stop doing the Democrats job for them, and concentrate on what’s REALLY important?
Saving AMERICA, and my children’s future?
Maybe SC is different or Republicans are different. In any case, I’m glad to hear it. Especially after the fiasco that was Iowa.
I watch things pretty closely and never heard of this. You KNOW the press would be all over it. Source?
tex-mex
“I’m sorry Jesus Christ decided not to run, but there you have it, You are stuck with Earthly men, with earthly failings.”
Totally agree with you.
I’m aware that Newt is a convert, so am I. The Catechism agrees with me.”
Welcome Home Friend, WooHoo!
A local reporter is tweeting from near Columbia....
“Talking to voters at Midlands polling locations & finding LOTS of votes for Gingrich. Many considered Romney but debates were game changer.”
I’m also hearing the turnout is much better than 2008.
Go Newt!
Well said. Thank you.
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