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Posted on 01/20/2012 9:40:04 AM PST by TBBT
Gallup chief: Romney support 'collapsing'
Which 'liberal' do you want, then? If you're a Gingrich supporter, surely you realize he's to the left of the candidates I mentioned. I guess to you he's a far left liberal?
Kudos! Wisdom, clear wisdom in your words.
Sic Semper RINOs
Of course. They want the conservative vote to be sufficiently splintered that Mitt wins.
Gingrich is to the left of Chris Christie???
Pull your head out of your butt. Your brain is starved for oxygen.
Why don't you run that theory by Jim Robinson who has given this full-throated endorsement of Newt Gingrich?
I appreciate the sentiment, but that is just superstition.
The distinction is that Romney's support - most of the support for candidates more than a week or a few days before election day - is weak. Just because people parked with Romney because they figured they could live with him as the nominee, and indicated that preference to pollsters, does not mean they wouldn't change their mind later if a more appealing option presented itself, and it does not mean the polling is fabricated.
Now, some pollsters do a better job digging into the numbers than others. Gallup has a lot of detail beyond their top line numbers, and Rasmussen tracks the intensity of each candidate's support, which tells much more of the real story. Other pollsters just rip off a top line number for a headline.
If Chris Christie were running in the primary I believe JimRob would give him full consideration, as would I. He has decided to support Newt and accentuate his positives, not deny the existence of his weaknesses.
Jdw! Thank you for having a conversation with me on this! Finally a rational debate.
First, I didn’t mean to out words in your mouth exclusively. It’s just that so many times I talk about anything regarding dr. Paul I get flamed about the drug thing. I guess i’ve gotten a bit touchy and that’s not right. Sorry.
Let me see if I can coalesce my thoughts a bit better.
I think that dr. Paul, as you said, understands that the number 1 threat to our country is the debt death spiral we are in. And there is no workble solution in the party platform. Many in the gop are aware of the problem but, where are the solutions. Dr. Paul has some. Ending fiat money and the fed are two of the most prominent.
I’m a non-interventionist myself, but I can see the other side of the national security argument. What I think we might be able to agree on is the the president does not have the authority to lead us into inumerable and unending conflicts.
Also, the purpose of a political party, as opposed to a philosophy, is to take many different points of view and unite them in common purpose. The so called paulbots have legitimate and valid viewpoints. Some of them are workable into the party platform, some are not.
To comepletly invalidate them and marginalize them is incredibly shortsighted polically. Especially when the overwhelming majority of paul supporters are just enerting the political process and forming their political identity.
Santorum has not come across as the kind of fighter that could square off against the Chicago Mob, nor deal with the level of HATE that the Left would throw at the Repub nominee. He's a nice guy, but we need somebody willing to do what's needed to win.
The idea that nobody will be close to enough delegates is pretty likely in my opinion. I don’t see Newt accepting the position as Mitts VP or the other way around.
though not quite the same, some shade of 2008. By July 2007, McCain was left for dead, limpin along.. out of money, consultants jumping ship, Romney full of dough...then what happened ? Myth opened his mouth and McCain started winning primaries. Myth was out by February 2008.
( Wish Cain could have stuck it out a little longer)
maybe some Deja VooDoo all over again.
Ping!
Newt, hands down.
“He may not be right on everything but to dismiss him entirely is to dismiss the chance to accept into the platform the ideas that will work and get his supporters to come into the fold and vote republican in Nov.”
Sarah Palin said as much also. She said not to dismiss his supporters who are genuine Libertarians. I’m sick of hearing talk show hosts, like nit-wit Todd Schnitt, call Ron Paul supporters degrading, dispicable names, asking them when they took drugs last,.....and even plays with his cuckcoo toy when a Paul supporter calls. Billy Cunningham is disgusting too.You could hear his saliva as he gushed over Cain and disparaged Paul....and Perry. Many of Paul’s supporters are veterans and police officers. I hate it when they are abused verbally. When did it become out of bounds in America to support a candidate? I’ll tell you this, I’m not a Paul supporter but I interact with many college kids. They are high on him and love Rand. They don’t think he’s a kook. They think we’re kooks.
We’ve now reached the pits of insanity in the manner we chose our leaders. It’s probably why we don’t have any since Ronald Reagan. We need a brokered convention. Fight it out on the floor.
I no longer have a horse in the race. By the time the primary date reaches my state, it always over anyway.
FR SLLLOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWW is an understatment!!!! My head is about to come off! I could not post at all. Got trapped in TOPICS rejecting EVERY single “topic”! Could not overcome it. Gave up and asked another Freeper to post, Erick’s column at redstate.com on Paul posers at precincts. It is on the forum now under, “The Horserace for January 12”.
When I was in hs in the 90’s my govt. teacher was a former lbj staffer so you can guess what that class was like.
However, he did teach us a lot about the american political process. He taught us that a party, at the convention, would debate the platform that the eeventual candidate would run on. Each topic in the platform was called a “plank”.
The delegates would debate, wrangle and argue, ll week until a platform was voted on a nominee was selected based on a comprimise by the delegates.
Now look what has happend. Only 4%, 4% of the states have voted and we’re being told who the nominee is going to be and what he’ll be running with. All we’re doing is electing a king. The next step down this road is that king taking over complete control.
This so called primary process is un-american and signals the end of representative govt.
Television destroyed the process.
Agree
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