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Week one ‘Haditha’ Marine trial analysis Part II: the counter-attack upon houses 1 and 2
9/11 Families for a Safe & Strong America ^ | 1-17-2012 | Tim Sumner

Posted on 01/17/2012 8:14:44 PM PST by smoothsailing

Week one ‘Haditha’ Marine trial analysis Part II: the counter-attack upon houses 1 and 2

Tim Sumner

January 17, 2012

United States Marine Staff Sergeant Frank Wuterich stands accused of 9 counts of voluntary manslaughter, 2 counts of assault with a dangerous weapon, 3 counts of dereliction of duty, and “responsible for the deaths of 19 civilians” in Haditha, Iraq. The trial is expected to take four weeks. The prosecution began its case last Monday. If you have not, please first read Part I. Part II completes my analysis of the trial to date and includes key testimony that the media has failed to report. Part II begins immediately after SSgt Wuterich has eliminated the threat posed by five military-aged men moving near a white car across the road from the lead Humvee in his resupply convoy.

Approximately 200 feet behind Wuterich, a buried IED had been set off. The driver of the 4th Humvee was dead and two more lay wounded. From about 75 ft away, Wuterich had eliminated by fire the threat posed by five military-aged men near a white car. He turned, went to the 3rd Humvee, radioed-in HQs a situation update, and then went to his wounded Marines. “Doc” Whitt, Tatum, and Salinas preceded him, while under enemy fire, in reaching the stricken vehicle.

Salinas testified Thursday he exchanged fire with a man to his south on the side of house #1:

“Rounds were impacting on the fourth vehicle. I went back to render aid to my Marines that were wounded. There was destruction everywhere. There was a fog, a haze. When the smoke was clearing out I could see an object. It was LCpl Crossan. He was missing a couple of fingers. His body armor was obstructing his airway … “I got as low as I could because I heard rounds coming. It was the impact of the rounds hitting the high back. I got low on the deck,” he said.

Salinas described an ugly, bitter war, a no-quarter environment where innocent victims found themselves on November 19, 2005. Al Anbar Province lived [what] was a waste land after two bloody years of internecine warfare.

“On the outside of the house, on the east side of the house, I saw a small silhouette. Things look small that far away. It was a tall man. There was rounds impacting around me, so I engaged him. I used my M-16. I shot more than twice but not the entire magazine,” he told prosecutor Lt Col Sean Sullivan. “Then I took my 203 (M-203 40mm grenade launcher attached underneath his rifle) and fired rounds on the house — fired two or three.” It was while trying to find Crossan’s fingers, he explained.

LT William Kallop was Wuterich’s platoon leader and led the quick reaction force to Route Chestnut in Haditha. Kallop testified Friday that:

“…he believed the ambush was the beginning of the long anticipated counterattack by insurgents who had infiltrated into the city. … Wuterich gave him a brief report. After making sure the squad leader of the Quick Reaction Force began evacuating the two wounded Marines still lying on the road, he gave Wuterich the order to “clear South” to suppress incoming fire the ambushed Marines had observed coming from what later became known as House 1 and 2.”

The Los Angeles Times reported Saturday:

“[Kallop] believed insurgents inside the house were firing on Marines and thus the house could be deemed “hostile.” … A Marine lawyer, testifying after Kallop, gave a different interpretation of the rules of engagement. Maj. Kathryn Navin, who had lectured Marines before they deployed, said a house cannot be declared hostile unless the people inside are known to have “hostile intent” or have committed “hostile acts.” But Kallop said that in training at Camp Pendleton and March Reserve Air Base, and at briefings delivered in Iraq, Marines were not told they needed to identify individual targets as threatening when assaulting a “hostile” structure.

What the Times did not report was Major Navin had previously testified a house “could be declared ‘hostile.’” That fact came out during cross-examination when Navin was asked to read a transcript of her own testimony from August 2007, according to trial observer Heidi Anselmo who I spoke with by phone last night. When asked by defense counsel to explain her previous testimony, Navin offered, “Maybe I got mixed up.”

President Barack Obama, former President George W. Bush, and literally hundreds of U.S. military officers would be facing prosecution if the Marine Corps’ ROE applied to them; they have ordered airstrikes upon houses without first personally identifying that everyone within them had “hostile intent” or had committed “hostile acts.” While at the ambush site, Kallop received reports from Wuterich and other Marines of enemy fire coming from house #1. Salinas had marked it as a target with M203 grenades. It was then clear to Kallop, Wuterich, and Salinas the enemy was using the house for military purposes and eliminating the threat posed to their Marines was necessary self-defense (See the ROE card they carried.)

During his first combat action, Wuterich led three combat veterans of the 2nd Battle of Falluja in a combat assault upon house 1 and 2 to eliminate the threat. The Haditha massacre of innocent civilians was designed by lesser men; justice needs brought to them for that war crime.

Intelligence officer Major Don Dinsmore will testify today at the trial. He fought what is known as the ‘intelligence battle’ for 3/1 that day in Haditha, recorded in real time the enemy’s positions and activities, assessed the information, and sent a stream of intelligence to the Marines on the ground. Each of Kilo Company’s four platoons fought battles within a half-mile of the initial IED blast. Before you read media reports after Dinsmore testifies, perhaps you should first read Nat Helm’s report about his July 2007 interview of Cpl Joe Haman. His squad was manning a combat observation post that morning 600 meters south of the IED-initiated ambush. Including Haman, 7 Marines and a Navy Corpsman were wounded during a “grenade throwing contest” with insurgents later that morning:

“Somebody said his [Terrazas] number, but we didn’t know who it was. We just knew somebody had been killed or wounded,” Haman said. … About 30 minutes before Haman’s squad was called into action … Then a nearby helicopter reported to headquarters that a large group of insurgents were fleeing out the back of the small cluster of houses now under counter-attack by Wuterich’s squad. The pilot spotted the insurgents when they abandoned the houses where the civilians died, Haman said.”

Regardless of anyone’s opinion about the need to invade Iraq, America owed Frank Wuterich far better than a court-martial for leading Marines caught within an ambush in a series of counter-attacks to defeat the enemy while complying the best he could with ambiguous Rules of Engagement. In Haditha, honorable Marines fought as they were trained. The enemy is solely to blame for every death that occurred that day; Al Qaeda and Sunni insurgents hid among and initiated fights behind defenseless women, children, and old men.

SSgt Wuterich lived up to his enlistment oath to “obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over” him, at dire risk to his own life. America sends its sons and daughters to war to fight, win, and survive, not on suicide missions. They bravely fight counter-insurgent warfare on our behalf and must live with haunting memories of collateral damages. The criminalization of our warriors must end.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: defendourmarines; haditha; wuterich
Week one ‘Haditha’ Marine trial analysis Part I: An ambush on Route Chestnut and the white car
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1 posted on 01/17/2012 8:14:53 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: jazusamo; RedRover; Sergeant Tim

SSgt. Wuterich Trial Ping.


2 posted on 01/17/2012 8:16:48 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Innocent.

We are sorry and you are hereby promoted.


3 posted on 01/17/2012 8:32:31 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: smoothsailing

The prosecutors and every staff officer involved in this travesty should be tried for treason and sent the Levenworth for life. At the least.


4 posted on 01/17/2012 8:32:44 PM PST by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: smoothsailing

That Marine needs a promotion, a fist full of medals and a gratitude a nation can never repay.


5 posted on 01/17/2012 8:35:44 PM PST by occamrzr06
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To: piytar
The prosecutors and every staff officer involved in this travesty should be tried for treason and sent the Levenworth for life.

Too late. Leavenworth is already full of innocent troops their fellow assholes sent there.

6 posted on 01/17/2012 8:39:33 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: smoothsailing
thanks.. I forgot about Karlen's precise description..NCIS rat bastards hid his testimony.
7 posted on 01/17/2012 8:59:11 PM PST by stylin19a (obama - "FREDO" smart)
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To: smoothsailing

“During his first combat action, Wuterich led three combat veterans of the 2nd Battle of Falluja in a combat assault upon house 1 and 2 to eliminate the threat. The Haditha massacre of innocent civilians was designed by lesser men; justice needs brought to them for that war crime.”

What the he// is this statement?


8 posted on 01/17/2012 9:17:38 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: smoothsailing

It is disgusting that a soldier, in a war zone, can be charged with assault with a deadly weapon.


9 posted on 01/17/2012 9:18:26 PM PST by Terry Mross (AN)
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To: Eagles6

“The Haditha massacre of innocent civilians was designed by lesser men; justice needs brought to them for that war crime”

That needed better editing in the article. The writer is referring to Tim McGuirk and Time magazine, John Murtha, and the anti-military American Left that was working so hard at the time to undermine OIF and the Coalition Forces.


10 posted on 01/17/2012 9:24:32 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

BUMP a truly outstanding post.

Semper Fidelis,
LH


11 posted on 01/17/2012 9:50:32 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: smoothsailing
At the end of the great movie 'Unforgiven', William Munny walks into the crowded town saloon brandishing a double-barrel shotgun, stock on his shoulder, looking down the barrel. Little Bill and his gunmen are all there. They see the dangerous killer Munny walk in, and they freeze.

William Munny: "Who's the fellow owns this shit hole?"
(Nobody says a word.)
William Munny: (Pointing his shotgun at one of Little Bill's gunmen.) "You. Fat man. Speak up."
(A few seconds pass and it looks like Munny is about to shoot the fat man. But then the saloon owner, wearing a white bartender smock, turns to face Munny and meekly admits to being the owner.)
Saloon owner: "Uh... I own this establishment. Bought it from Grealy for $1,000."
William Munny: (Looking at several gunmen standing in the back, behind the saloon owner.) "You better clear out of there."
One of the gunmen: "Yes, sir." (The gunmen scramble out of the way. Munny aims his shotgun squarely at the saloon owner.)
Little Bill: (Taking a step forward.) "Just hold it right there.... Hold it!"

BLAM! (Munny kills the saloon owner, blasting him in the chest and knocking him backward onto the floor. Women watching from up on the staircase let out screams.)

Little Bill "Well, sir, you are a cowardly sonuvabitch. You just shot an unarmed man!"
William Munny: "Well, he should've armed himself... if he's gonna decorate his saloon with my friend."
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A 12-year old survivor of the alleged massacre of "innocent civilians" by U.S. Marines patrolling Haditha has admitted she had prior knowledge of the plot to detonate an IED as their convoy was passing by her house on the morning of Nov. 19, 2005.

In a CNN interview, Safa Younis - who says eight members of her family were killed by U.S. troops - recalled that she was getting ready for school as the Marine Humvee approached.

"I was planning to go to school. I was about to go out of bed. I knew the bomb would explode so I covered my ears," the youngster said, according to a CNN translator. "The bomb exploded," she explained. "The bomb struck an armored vehicle. I don't know if it was a Humvee or an armored vehicle. When the bomb exploded, they came straight to my house."
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The "innocent" occupants of those houses knew about the impending deadly ambush and watched it happen. They chose to collaborate with terrorist insurgents, and those insurgents used them as human shields.

It is true, of course, that war is hell and it is tragic when civilian non-combatants are killed. But if the "innocent civilians" in those houses were going to give shelter to insurgent terrorists and allow themselves to be used as human shields as those terrorists ambushed US Marines, then maybe they should have armed themselves.


12 posted on 01/17/2012 10:49:25 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Eagles6

Sir, that statement said “lesser men.” Not those Marines.

Who then? I explained it in the next to last paragraph, “The enemy is solely to blame for every death that occurred that day; Al Qaeda and Sunni insurgents hid among and initiated fights behind defenseless women, children, and old men.”


13 posted on 01/18/2012 2:45:05 AM PST by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: smoothsailing; Sergeant Tim

Thanks for the clarification guys. I misunderstood the meaning.


14 posted on 01/18/2012 3:10:56 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: Lancey Howard

Excellent Post! Thank You!


15 posted on 01/18/2012 3:28:48 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Eagles6; Sergeant Tim
Thanks for the clarification guys. I misunderstood the meaning.

Glad to help! I noticed from your homepage you fly the Pennsylvania flag. I'm in the southwest corner of PA, where are you?

16 posted on 01/18/2012 3:34:19 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: piytar

“The prosecutors and every staff officer involved in this travesty should be tried for treason and sent the Levenworth for life. At the least.”

No, you want to REALLY punish them. Take away their rank, pension and benes.


17 posted on 01/18/2012 3:50:54 PM PST by EDINVA
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