and America takes another one in the........
Posted on 01/13/2012 3:55:51 PM PST by grundle
Full title: New Bill Known As Enemy Expatriation Act Would Allow Government To Strip Citizenship Without Conviction
First, Congress considered the National Defense Authorization Act, sections of which gave the President the authority to use the military to arrest and indefinitely detain Americans without trial or charge. The language was revised because of strong condemnation from the American people. But now a new bill has emerged that poses yet another threat to the American citizenry.
Congress is considering HR 3166 and S. 1698 also known as the Enemy Expatriation Act, sponsored by Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Charles Dent (R-PA). This bill would give the US government the power to strip Americans of their citizenship without being convicted of being “hostile” against the United States. In other words, you can be stripped of your nationality for “engaging in, or purposefully and materially supporting, hostilities against the United States.” Legally, the term “hostilities” means any conflict subject to the laws of war but considering the fact that the War on Terror is a little ambiguous and encompassing, any action could be labeled as supporting terrorism. Since the Occupy movement began, conservatives have been trying to paint the protesters as terrorists.
The new law would change a part of US Code 1481 which can be read in full here. Compare 3166 to 1481 and the change is small. The new section makes no reference to being convicted as it does in section (7). So even though the language of the NDAA has been revised to exclude American citizens, the US government merely has to strip Americans of their citizenship and the NDAA will apply. And they will be able to do so without convicting the accused in a court of law.
I hope I’m wrong, but it sounds to me like this is a loophole for indefinitely detaining Americans. Once again, you just have to be accused of supporting hostilities which could be defined any way the government sees fit. Then the government can strip your citizenship and apply the indefinite detention section of the NDAA without the benefit of a trial. This certainly must be questioned by American citizens. The way these defense obsessed Republicans think, our rights are always in danger of being taken away.
To read the full text of the bill, go here.
If we can’t convict them, we’ll just strip them of citizenship. Unbelievable. This will be applied to anyone that will speak out against our rulers.
and America takes another one in the........
Agree. We have no leadership in the house and senate. As I’ve written before, China is laughing at us.
Thanks for the post.
Very Very bad bill.
Agree completely - this is utter bs. Scary times we live in...
What will happen to you if you were born in the USA? Will you become a non-person or classified as sub-human?
Where would you go?
Because you cannot strip citizenship from a citizen born here.
You are correct sir. Others, will get a free pass.
Chances are they've thought of that angle. Hell, about half the country would clamor to be expiated if that were the case. No, they probably are going to work it the same way they did in the Roman Empire (since that seems to be this county's trajectory toward the death of the Republic). They'll declare you an enemy of the state, strip you of your wealth, and then kill you. Fast, simple, and cheap. I think we may have figured how Zero is going to cover the deficit.
A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality—
"Intention" makes it all useless-for either good or ill- IMO.
What kind of bs is this? We need to strip this Congress and government of their citizenships and throw the bums in a permanent jail cell.
No congress, president, man or woman has the authority or right to take away the citizenship of a naturally born American citizen. That is plain wrong. No other wrong greater in this country. This cannot be allowed to pass.
It started with the Excise Tax for Indoor Tanning. Guess who goes to indoor tanning salons.
Well, who can argue with logic like that? LOL
This is how Obama gets the European natural born Americans out of the country.
Relax. This only applies to naturalized citizens caught performing acts of violence agaisnt the US. It DOES NOT apply to natural born citizens.
Here is the text of the bill, H.R. 3166:
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the `Enemy Expatriation Act’.
SEC. 2. LOSS OF NATIONALITY.
(a) In General- Section 349 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1481) is amended—
(1) in subsection (a)—
(A) in each of paragraphs (1) through (6), by striking `or’ at the end;
(B) in paragraph (7), by striking the period at the end and inserting `; or’; and
(C) by adding at the end the following:
`(8) engaging in, or purposefully and materially supporting, hostilities against the United States.’; and
(2) by adding at the end the following:
`(c) For purposes of this section, the term `hostilities’ means any conflict subject to the laws of war.’.
(b) Technical Amendment- Section 351(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1483(a)) is amended by striking `(6) and (7)’ and inserting `(6), (7), and (8)’.
I know of many US citizens in a certain Southeast Asian country we used to occupy who say the IRS can't touch them there.
Personally, If I were stripped of US citizenship, I'd claim to be Kenyan. It seems they are missing one of their "citizens".
Yanking their citizenship is a great idea.
We should stop importing terrorist-supporting immigrants.
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