Posted on 01/10/2012 8:35:57 PM PST by Steelfish
JANUARY 11, 2012 Diverse Coalition Backs Romney New Hampshire Exit-Poll Data Show That Voting Blocs Favoring the Front-Runner Were Even Larger Than in Iowa
By JANET HOOK
CONCORD, N.H.—Mitt Romney's broad-based victory in New Hampshire was built upon strong support from Republican voters and backing from enough independents to keep his rivals from mounting a serious challenge, exit polling data showed.
Rep. Ron Paul of Texas and former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman were buoyed by a surge of independent voters, who made up 45% of the GOP primary electorate, up from just over one-third in 2008. Independents in New Hampshire can vote in either party's primary.
Those voters helped push Mr. Paul to a second-place finish and Mr. Huntsman to a likely third-place showing. But Mr. Romney easily triumphed, because dissenting votes were so widely dispersed among his rivals.
The survey of Republican primary voters, conducted as people exited from polling places across the Granite State, found Mr. Romney's weakest showing was among young voters who stampeded to support Mr. Paul, as they did in Iowa. Mr. Paul collected nearly half of the vote among 18-to-29-year-olds.
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He has stated point blank he does not want them to have one. He has also surmised, not unreasonably, that for Iran to acquire a nuclear weapon and use it would be nothing short of national suicide. He's right.
You are woefully misinformed if you think Ron Paul would not engage in retaliation if an attack of that kind would befall us. Some have said - Bachmann for example - that we cannot wait for that point in time. I tend to agree to some degree. But realistically . . . Iran is not worth all the trouble and posturing.
I'm writing from the gut here. If you know Iran poses an immediate threat in terms of a nuclear attack on us or our allies, by all means I am open to the information. And so is Ron Paul, and every other candidate for the Office of President. To me the threat is more immediate from Statists in our own midst. Ron Paul is as anti-Statist as it gets.
We either trust the citizens of this country to conduct themselves honorably among one another without and overarching, overreaching human authority, or we don't. We've got to work things out civilly; get the monkey of federal meddling off our backs, and off the backs of folks out there who wonder why we've invited our ideals into their "paradise" of slavery.
Yes, they can--and do. Most of the heavy lifting (literally) in the oil patch is done at the behest of us old farts, but by younger backs.
They're also concerned that the future will bring little real reward for their labors if things keep going the way they are. I know I wouldn't want to be in my early twenties looking at the way things are going to crap.
The ones around here who aren't making oilfield wages are struggling to make the rent (2K a month for a two-bedroom apt), often working two jobs to make ends meet. They've had a taste of inflationary economics, and they aren't looking forward to being taxed witless to pay for those who won't bust their butts.
They recognize the current model is unsustainable, that it has to be cut back.
Funny how working for what you have sharpens your sense of responsibility.
I have to agree. Ron Paul is no friend of public education as we know it. No wonder he's called a "kook" on a regular basis. After all, "kook" is one of those words public education knows, teaches, and practices to perfection.
But, the GOP is about smaller government, individual freedom and responsibility, government accountability, and a clear understanding of original intent when it comes to our Constitution, even though it offends me at times. All of these things define Ron Paul. So . . I'll just bear with your ignorance and their overbearing disposition while considering both the facts and what is best for the temporary set up we enjoy as paid for with the blood, sweat, and tears of our forefathers.
Of course neither Ron Paul nor anyone else would like Iran to get a nuclear weapon. But the IAEA has concluded that they are moving to produce one. And if you don’t think this threatens US national interests, then we have a divide we cannot bridge. Nor would Paul have a problem if Venezuela seeks a nuclear bomb either.
No Fester I would not be surprised. I am quite familiar with civilized children who respect authority. They are my children and despite the hormonally- induced insanity of adolescence and young adulthood they are conservative. They are not libertarian. Ron Paul’s philosophy is not conservative at heart. It is individualist to the extreme under the guise of liberty.
But the majority of the demographic in question has been raised to believe that they do not have to answer to any authority beyond their own. That is the end game of the Ayn Rand pseudo-objectivist philosophy that Paul espouses. and it is not all that different from the post-hippie, love the one you’re with, there are no absolutes, I am god mindset of the Obamabots.
I so hope nut case Paul runs third party, he will take mucho mas votes from Bammy that from the pubbie to be.
The threat would be significant if we were unarmed and unwilling to defend ourselves. To my knowledge neither of those contingencies hold true, and would not hold true no matter which GOP candidate holds the Office of President. Willing to learn if you know otherwise.
Not to worry, Christian morality is not dead (it is not possible for it to die) but you are right, it is not the guiding mindset of the country. But there are exceptions among the “youngins.”
The question is how much of that demographic applies to those who support Ron Paul. I'm sure there are some, but they are mistaken if they think Ron Paul is a proponent of anarchy and disrespect for authority. I think what's happening is that his trust in human nature to be in comportment with civility invites some uncivil behavior.
So good to hear you have children who respect authority. I mean it, and I know it means a lot to you. Thinking through my own struggles with when and where to address conditions that overstep authority, and where authority can impose arbitrary constraints. It's not easy. I just don't see Ron Paul as the type who would be a proponent of a lawless society. Libertarianism in the extreme can be like that. Not good.
But to me the constraints of the State have become overly burdensome in too many areas of life. Ron Paul seems to be in agreement with a reasonable, but not perfect, way to enjoy the blessings we've been given during this short trek on earth.
God bless you, and your family, and keep you in His peace.
It’s about US security interests. A nuclearized Iran can threaten the flow of oil and will draw the US into more conflicts in the Middle East.
Bravo Chugabrew, the fallacies about RP supporters and actual libertarian views have become an obsession with so many Repubs that they only see red and refuse to actually discuss the issues. An excellent read on our dismal State Education; ‘The Underground History of American Education’, http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/underground/index.htm
*sigh*
Was there anything in my post that gave you any indication that I was paralleling the voting public to the mindless consuming masses? *checks post* Nope... nothing.
I was commenting on society in general and how the poster to whom I was responding mentioned that these “kids” (18-29) are following Paul like zombies.
Get over yourself, Fester. Nothing in my post was meant as righteous or otherwise arrogant. Furthermore, if you find what I said to be indicative of degeneration, that is your own correlation, not mine.
NH’s conservative streak is very much of the ‘live and let live’, fiscally conservative, libertarian variety.
Not your post specifically, no. But your post was a response to the assertion that 18-29 year-olds are largely disinclined to vote Republican; you were speaking of the voting public, and then launched into a diatribe about mindless masses. In retrospect, however, I was way too harsh, and for that I apologize.
Not a problem, FRiend. I was more surprised than anything.
I’ve been voting R since I was old enough to vote, but that was due to my upbringing. Social media, when I was in high school, was meeting at the mall to ice skate and loiter, and I believe that’s leading the charge for much of the stupidity in our world.
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