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Santorum: Trim Social Security now even if painful
Associated Press ^ | Jan 6, 2012 6:35 PM (ET) | CHARLES BABINGTON

Posted on 01/06/2012 6:38:10 PM PST by DJ MacWoW

KEENE, N.H. (AP) - Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum called Friday for immediate cuts to Social Security benefits, risking the wrath of older voters and countless others who balk at changes to the entitlement program.

"We can't wait 10 years," even though "everybody wants to," Santorum told a crowd while campaigning in New Hampshire and looking to set himself apart from his Republican rivals four days before the New Hampshire primary.

Most of his opponents have advocated phasing in a reduction and say immediate cuts would be too big a shock to current and soon-to-be retirees.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.myway.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: greed; planners; police; santorum; socialism; socialsecurity; teachers
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Great post! Add to that that seniors have to pay TAXES on their SS “benefits.”


101 posted on 01/06/2012 7:51:55 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

“Everyone shares the pain — including seniors.”

That kind of statement is absolute B/S.

A good many seniors are already living on the edge. Many can’t return to any workforce. Most are on fixed incomes. They haven’t received any COLA for a few years now. This price of everything has gone up, food, meds, just seeing a doctor.

Hell, why don’t we just kill the old bastards and be done with it.

Save up your money and buy a friggin brain.


102 posted on 01/06/2012 7:52:32 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: DJ MacWoW; mrreaganaut

This won’t make me popular but I read somewhere that more Gen Xers believe in UFOs than they will get SS. I am one of them. The system is completely broke and the best way is to give people an opt out option, don’t pay in, don’t collect no matter what.

SS does need to be cut, but this wasn’t a wise move on Santorum’s part. Too many people believe they deserve it, because they were FORCED into paying into it. They were scammed. It isn’t sustainable in the least. Nevertheless, it is a sacred cow for both sides.


103 posted on 01/06/2012 7:52:32 PM PST by reaganaut (If Romney is a conservative then I'm the frickin Angel Moroni.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“I’m just glad Rick is committing suicide early so its not too late for Newt to take SC.”


Newt is the only one who will absolutely devastate obama in a debate.


104 posted on 01/06/2012 7:53:11 PM PST by CGalen
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To: DJ MacWoW

Massachusettes Willard the Lib will counter Santorum by pandering/promising to RAISE benefits.

We are Greece. Eat, drink, and be merry! Borrow more from China, print more dollars, and screw the future generations!


105 posted on 01/06/2012 7:53:26 PM PST by CainConservative (Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Bolton, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: trumandogz; ExtremeUnction

Social Security is NOT a gift from government. People were FORCED to pay into it. That money belongs to THEM.


106 posted on 01/06/2012 7:53:26 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

In Washington speak if the rate increase is reduced, that is called a cut. If the rate is held the same, that is a deep cut. Yawn.


107 posted on 01/06/2012 7:55:02 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Who believes a word from a vile Dem party operative
Named Charles babbington.

This creature is a dedicated Dem liar and fraud .


108 posted on 01/06/2012 7:55:13 PM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Nifster
And the devil is always in the details

Well, except when there is a campaign on. Then the devil is in the headlines... or the soundbite...

The first obligation of a candidate is to get elected. If he fails this first step then he is a failure, no matter if his platform is sent down on clay tablets by God.

109 posted on 01/06/2012 7:55:25 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Amen.

First and foremost, the government has no business doing social security. It is socialism at it’s worst.

There is no more contentious argument to have on FR, but it is an argument we must have as a nation.

To all those who say death to any politician that touches it I say:

First and foremost, get the welfare crowd off of SSI. Drunks, crackheads, the lame disabled, etc etc. Stop sending checks to kids because babies daddy got gunned down in the hood. Babies daddy never paid into SSI and you can’t replace financial support that never existed in the first place.

Disability should not exist from age 20 until death. It does for some. Having a hyper kid or a child that can’t behave is not fixed by a few hundred to a thousand bucks a month. Sorry, learn to parent.

Every illegal alien should be removed from SSI immediately. It’s sad that I even have to write that.

Raise the retirement age and phase this nightmare out of existence with individual choice/freedom in line with our constitution.

After you get rid of all the deadweight, the people who paid in the most should feel the least pain. However, I get tired of reading and hearing supposed conservatives who act like card carrying AARP members whenever anyone mentions SSI.

Here is my problem with anyone 40 or older defending SSI.

YOU SHOULD FEEL THE PAIN - NOT MY KIDS!

In case you missed that.....

YOU SHOULD FEEL THE PAIN - NOT MY KIDS!

My kids did not set up the program, they did not vote for these jackass politicans in D.C. that stole from it, and it’s OUR RESPONSIBILITY to fix it. My kids can’t even vote against these morons who are bankrupting our entire nation. They did not vote for the state or local governments that are hopelessly broke either. We did. Doom on us. All of you who get angry at me for writing the truth instead of being angry at yourselves, your neighbors, friends, family, and parents for electing out-of-control government are welcome to fire away. I have heard it all before.

I am sorry that you got ripped off.... I have paid into it for 20 years and I don’t expect to see any of it. I am in my 40’s.

I am tired of the many who pull out the long knives everytime someone mentions trying to reform this out of control pig. The government is hopelessly broke. Who should pay for it? You and me.... not my kids. That is the only moral answer.

Morals...

That is my .02 and fire away.


110 posted on 01/06/2012 7:55:51 PM PST by volunbeer (Keep the dope, we'll make the change in 2012!)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Have you forgotten that 15% is for both Medicare and Social Security? Medicare is 2.9% contribution. What is the cost of Medicare over a person’s lifetime? Your numbers don’t include the real cost of healthcare plus social security vs. what’s paid in.


111 posted on 01/06/2012 7:56:07 PM PST by Girlene
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To: reaganaut
SS does need to be cut

Let's cut the confiscatory SS taxes and allow/guide workers and their employers to invest in stock market indices. I wish my SS contributions had been invested so! I'd be on the French Riviera now.

112 posted on 01/06/2012 7:56:12 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!

I have said that Social Security should be abolished.


113 posted on 01/06/2012 7:56:33 PM PST by trumandogz (Rick Perry Scored 10% on the Iowa Test.)
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To: CGalen

You believe crap from Scan artist from the AP ?
Do you any thing about Charles Babbington ????


114 posted on 01/06/2012 7:56:57 PM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I also believe that those receiving SS benefits should not have to pay taxes because it was taxed before it was taken out of their checks!

Why tax the poorest among us twice?


115 posted on 01/06/2012 7:57:03 PM PST by Randy Larsen (I'm backing Newt!)
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To: Paul8148
He is support taffis and voting agaisnt Nafta was going to hurt him in florida, this will finish him off..

Want to try that again, in English this time?

116 posted on 01/06/2012 7:57:36 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: volunbeer

Amen.

Preach it, brother!


117 posted on 01/06/2012 7:58:56 PM PST by CainConservative (Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Bolton, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Yes Social Security is a ponzi scheme and should be abolished.

However, anyone for the last 50 years who believed they could depend on Social Secuirty is a damn fool.


118 posted on 01/06/2012 7:59:49 PM PST by trumandogz (Rick Perry Scored 10% on the Iowa Test.)
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To: trumandogz

On that we agree. Pay out the current obligations, abolish the SS taxation ASAP.


119 posted on 01/06/2012 8:00:24 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: reaganaut
They do deserve their money. Otherwise it was robbery.

Many seniors depend on it. I know a woman in her 70's that is nearly blind now. She worked her whole life and get $900 a month. A local "neighbor" fund run by the newspaper bought fuel oil for her or she'd have no heat. And Santorum thinks she needs to "share the pain"? She's barely eating as her taxes went up on her house. She doesn't have anything left to sacrifice.

120 posted on 01/06/2012 8:01:11 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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