Posted on 01/02/2012 9:42:46 AM PST by SvenMagnussen
Las Vegas 1 January 2011 (sic). President Obama has(sic) had a dream run to the White House and hopes to remain there for another term. His chances of re election are diminished by his failure to convince Americans that he is entitled to the office he holds.
There are many Americans who are concerned that Barack Obama is not who and what he says he is. Veterans like Robert Laity are frustrated that media outlets have not pressured President Obama into releasing a real authenticated copy of his birth certificate. There appears little doubt that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii but many people believe that he is not entitled to hold his office as he is ineligible due to the status of his parents. The President's birth certificate would clear up that issue.
Robert Laity is a vocal American who is complaining to have Barack Obama charged with electoral fraud. The issue seems to be that the election authorities do not require a candidate to prove that he or she is entitled to seek an office. It is up to someone to prove that a candidate is not entitled to stand.
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They have us fighting the essentially sideshow birther battle which neither side can win...
And then,
Perhaps one election official will make the case at the state level, forcing Obama off one state's primary ballots and into the courts.
That KB, is the proper view. It may require only that one single state SOS or AG mans up and challenges the candidate's sworn certification that he or she is eligible. The challenge will require the candidate to authorize the birth state to provide birth documents (in the instant case there are many) and a certification that the candidate was indeed born within that state.
In my view, the challenging state should not be asked to interpret the U.S. Constitution; most would tremble at the request. Better that any or all of the states deal with what is an everyday exercise for them, verifying and confirming amongst themselves as to whether an individual's birthplace certification is valid, or is felonious.
Under this scenario there may be no court challenge, there is nothing unclear about a U.S. birthplace requirement.
Unfortunately, if the USSC is asked to decide the second requirement - two citizen parents - we run the risk of a decision based largely on politics. Notwithstanding that element avoids anchor babies running for office. In that regard it seems better the Congress decide the matter at the next Joint Session called for that purpose.
What if the actual BC does not have a Father? What if it is blank or says Unknown. (assuming there actually is a BC which I believe there isn’t.) If no father is listed or known does the fact that his commie mother was an American mean he’s ok? Do you have to have a father written in to make it legal?
That is right. There are reports that George was born in Mexico, therefore he was a Mexican despite having 2 US citizen parents, just as a child born in USA to 2 Mexican parents is a US citizen!
Unless George was naturalized to be a US citizen prior to Mitt’s birth, Mitt was born to 1 US citizen parent only and fails to meet the article 2 natural born citizen requirement to be the president!
Gingrich and others can/should challenge Romney’s nbc status before it is too late.
obumo wants Romney to be the nominee so people can’t hold obama ineligibile but hold Romney eligible. A precedent will be set forever!
Oh, wait! That isn't happening. Never mind.
‘It doesn’t matter where his father was born. It only matters if his father was a citizen when he was born.’
So if his father was born a Mexican (because of his birth in Mexico) and was never naturalized to be a US citizen then Mitt is NOT an article 2 natural born citizen (nbc)!
If his father was naturalized prior to Mitt’ birth then Mitt is a nbc.
See! See! They do it to. /progressive justification
‘One could understand why Mitt Romney would not want to make an issue of Obama’s eligibility.’
One could understand why Gingrich et al should want to make an issue of Mitt’s eligibility issue. If they do they will kill 2 birds (Mitt and obama’s candidacy) with 1 stone!
but they are not so smart after all!
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Hogwash! Take his (phony) birth certificate at face value and this case is closed.
He openly admits his father was NOT a U.S. citizen, which therefore disqualifies him as a "natural born citizen." Birth certificate be damned.
He doesn't belong on ANY state's ballot.
Since no record has been shown of his naturalization, Sven, one could just as reasonably conclude, or at least infer, that he did not naturalize. Had he done so, there would be a record ... or more likely, there would have been a record since disappeared.
I think he just cruised right by with a little help from Mom and her friends. I hope the SCOTUS is just waiting for him to leave office before addressing the question.
‘Rubio is not eligible. Jindal is not eligible.’
Add this -’Mitt Romney is not eligible, because his father was a Mexican (born in Mexico!), with no record that he was ever naturalized to be a US citizen prior to Mitt’s birth!
I think I will suggest to Mario Apuzzo and/or Mr Iron, the attorney for John dummett, the pres candidate, to file suit against Romney for his ineligibility to be president. Wouldn’t that solve the problem of the E shoving down our throats another RINO who is NOT even constitutionally eligible? Why fight the hard way?
‘Romney’s father’s and grandmother were American citizens under the law at that time’
What was the law at that time that made them American citizens?
Romney was born in Detroit, Michigan. It doesn’t matter if his parents were citizens or not, he is a US citizen by virtue of being born on US soil. If it did Obongo would not be a citizen since his alleged baby daddy was a Kenyan. Actually, Romney’s father may have been a citizen anyway since both his parents were US citizens.
..............What if the actual BC does not have a Father?.............
Or the actual BC names communist Frank Davis, who was a US citizen, but would blow up Zer0’s entire make-believe life story??
Of course, if one state election official in any state ordered Romney removed from that state's ballot, the appeal of that decision would move much more quickly up the ladder to the SCOTUS, one hopes. However, the SCOTUS, IMHO, could in this case merely order the lower court to conduct discovery, let the lower court decision stand, or as is most likely, do nothing by refusing to hear the appeal.
The arguments over eligibility are bad enough. The refusal of the higher courts to hear the cases on their merits is far worse. It is imho, an absolute dereliction or abdication of their clear judiciary responsibility to the Constitution, no matter what they rule.
‘Obama’s Certificate of Naturalization is the key to his ineligibility for POTUS.’
Right, his naturalization, if any, will postiviely prove that obama is NOT elig, because that is citizenship by law, NOT citizenship by nature (natural born citizen). A pres must be a natural born citizen, NOT a citizen by the act of law (such as naturalization’)
Neither his US birth or his ‘naturalization’ will qualify him to be the pres, because he was NOT born to 2 US citizen paretns!
Unfortunately we can’t throw them out! They are ALL corrupt to the core! AND we don’t have the courage to surround them until they give in to our demands!
The pres candidates are so stupid - they all insist in fighting it the hard way instead of exposing the truth that they are not elig and their names should not be in the ballot!
Just Stop Reading right there. No credibility to this story.
I agree, there is at least one SCOTUS ruling that says you must have two citizen parents to be a natural born citizen, therefore by Bozo's own admission he is not eligible. Where he was born is irrelevant in light of this requirement.
’ it seems better the Congress decide the matter at the next Joint Session called for that purpose.’
Congress has the authority and duty to decide on the elig of the president, remove the pres (even a sitting pres) if he is found to be inelig to hold that office.
But they have been silent or outright shun their duties for 4 years (since before the 2008 election when many were asking them to address their grievances)
If congress had acted soetoro/obama would not have been installed in the WH!
Congress and supreme court have been passsing the bucks to each other.
Another FReeper that wants to know.
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