Thousands flee Balochistan as cycle of violence escalates.
Posted on 01/01/2012 9:55:52 PM PST by SunkenCiv
Pakistan detains Iranian border guards after they allegedly killed a Pakistani national.
Pakistan on Sunday detained three Iranian border guards after they allegedly crossed the border and shot at a car, killing a Pakistani national, local Pakistani officials said.
The Iranians reached Mazan Sar Mashkail, in Washuk district, three kilometres (1.8miles) inside Pakistan where they opened fire on a vehicle they were chasing, according to officials in Balochistan.
"All three personnel of Iranian border security force were taken into custody for their penetration inside Pakistan and killing a Pakistani national on our soil", Saeed Ahmad Jamali, Deputy Commissioner of Washuk district told AFP.
A Pakistani national was killed and his brother was wounded by gunshots in the incident, he added.
Mazan Sar Mashkail is around 600 kilometres southwest of Quetta, the main town of insurgency hit Baluchistan province, which borders Iran's Sistan-Baluchestan province.
Iranian embassy officials in Islamabad were unavailable for comment late Sunday but Iran in the past has blamed a Sunni extremist group, called Jundallah, for launching attacks inside Pakistan from Sistan-Balochistan.
Jundallah says it is fighting Tehran's Shiite rule to secure rights for Sunni Balochis who form a significant population in Sistan-Balochistan, which borders both Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Pakistani officials said the Iranian guards were trying to take both Pakistani nationals back into Iran.
"Both Pakistanis were injured and one was later died. Pakistani troops at the border surrounded the Iranians and have taken them into custody", Jamali added.
"We have contacted our senior officials about the fate of these Iranian", Jamali said.
A Pakistan security official in Quetta confirmed the incident with request of anonymity as he was not authorised to speak to media.
(Excerpt) Read more at tribune.com.pk ...
Thousands flee Balochistan as cycle of violence escalates.
[ Balochistan Liberation Army ] BLA claims responsibility for Quetta blast
International News Network | Monday, January 2, 2012 | unattributed
Posted on 01/01/2012 7:43:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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War between Iran and Pakistan...no....too good to be true.
Muzzie on muzzie violence. Nothing to see here. Move along.
Pakistan has 7 ethnic groups --
If Pakistan is "dismantled" into it's constituent elements a lot of problems could be solved -- their nukes must be taken away and the Baluchistan issue would foster problems with Iran.
>>>”Pakistan is the key to destroying Islam.”<<<
No, People who are ideologically inclined (still think we live in McCarthy “communist days”, aka the Soviets”) - like Zbigniew Brzezinski - are the key to destroying Islam. Otherwise these people will continue to spread Islamism, as Brzezinski did, still unrepentant.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2826414/posts?page=14#14 - including youtube link in #15.
More youtube links here - watch & note carefully:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2490938/posts?page=2946#2946
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2490938/posts?page=2947#2947
Pass the popcorn...
Pass the popcorn...
>>>”Thousands flee Balochistan as cycle of violence escalates.”<<<
Millions fled Pakistan & Afghanistan during the 1980s (displaced, refugees, not to mention numerous civilians killed) when America was having its own back at the Soviets, using the Afghans as pawns, America’s payback for Vietnam to the USSR.
Back in the 1990s was first time I heard a number of Iranian officials were beheaded at the border of Iran/Pakistan or was it Afghanistan, by their moslem bro’s.. sunni/shia stuff, who cares.. kinda like Daniel Pearl except that one was neither sunni nor shia...
This is a very dangerous game to play.. 3000 people evidently died during 911 in America. Some ask what is the difference between 3000 & millions... are some blue-bloods & others aren’t? It is no ‘popcorn’ matter...
To the “Islamists”, America is the new USSR..
Yeah, whatever. Let those ragheads kill each other, let God sort ‘em all out.
That is what is considered a “win-win”.
I reckon God will take another 1000 yrs or so to sort things out.
Meantime, he is kicking butt, all around :-)
It is not possible nor even desirable to “destroy” Islam.
To even think of the possibility is simply ludicrous.
Radical Islam is a different matter. It will run it’s course and fall by the historical wayside.
Why is it not desirable to destroy Islam? Seriously.
Islam is all over the world in many countries both large and small. They go about their business and do not cause trouble or offer a threat. Simply put, they are not a threat or a problem.
A far worse enemy to America is within. That enemy, that enemy actually destroying America, is personified as our President, as our attorney general, as Nancy Pelosi, as Alec Baldwin, as Barney Frank. All are liberals, dedicated progressives, with the agenda of destroying America as it was founded and replacing it with some utopian delusion. All those noted are far worse enemies than Islam. They are destroying our country as we post.
If you destroyed the progressive subversives you would eliminate the Great Satan that radical Islam disdains. Although the radical Islamists are bent on harming America, the liberal sin is what they really hate. Liberal immorality is projected as America. Your effort and thought directed to destroying liberals, be they next door neighbors, mothers or brothers, would be far more productive to salvaging America than to chase after all of Islam.
Alas, that will not happen because with the straw man of Islam as an enemy, the real enemy will continue to be tolerated
Those who suffered bomb blasts and terrorist attacks in Israel, India, Coptic Christians in Egypt, Christians in Nigeria and Kenya, Buddhists in Thailand, Christians in the Philippines, the children in Beslan would disagree with you.
most of Pakistan and the Islamic world support the jihadis -- many supported AlQaida until the AQ turned on Moslems too.
simply put, Islam IS the problem -> note, I do not say "Moslems are the problem" but I say that the philosophy of Islam IS the problem, just as the philosophy of communism IS the problem.
Liberals and Islam are both twin evils, feeding on each other. We cannot take our eye off one to win the other. They are like Naziism and communism in 1939-1941: allied.
Bert -- moslems didn't say "liberal sin is what we REALLY hate, that is why we are invading the Byzantine Empire in 640" -- they didn't give that excuse for subjugating Christians in Egypt, Syria, Spain, the Balkans,Hungary etc.
They didn't give that excuse for the slaughter of Hindus in India, Jews in Israel or Buddhists in thailand.
They didn't give that excuse for slaughtering children in Beslan in Ossetia.
No, they are bent on harming EVERYONE who is not a radial Moslem.
It is late here, just wanted to say that I agree & share some other thoughts.
Is the average, nominal moslem the problem? I’d say No.
But, I think instead of throwing words & terms around, we need to clearly define what we mean by “radical islam”, “radical islamists” versus “moderate islam or islamists” ??
More importantly, what is the context ?? — I am very keen to understand the distinction. I had never heard of radical Islam until after 9/11. I used to live in a moslem country. And, I still know people who live in the ME, or are Moslems. They say same, they had never heard of ‘radical versus moderate Islam’.
Also, historically & theologically Islam from its inception, and thru the actions of its messenger (prophet) Mohammad & his immediate disciples is only “the religion of peace”, when one complies with its demands.
Islam has a history of significant violence.
Islam was brought to many lands by the force of the sword, along with other direct pressures to convert. That is quite unique to Islam, Mohammad & his immediate disciples/caliphs such as Umar.
I can understand there is a significant issue with Liberals in the US in particular. But, that is a separate matter, imo, not to be confused with Islam and related violence - it is not that we identify them as “Islamists”, it is that they continuously identify themselves as moslems.
I also note that some western conservatives too tend to align themselves w/ Islam & “Islamism” when it suits their purpose. Again, we need to clearly define what we mean by “radical Islam/Islamists versus moderate ones” and in what context.
Valid -- and I agree with you. The nominal Moslem is a guy who just follows orders, just like someone in a communist country in 1980 -- they were "communist" but not really. Even communist party members in Eastern Europe.
But the philosophy is evil
There are only three types of Moslems -- believing, non-believing and heretics. In the last you'd have the Ismailis.
But there is no "radical Islam" versus "moderate Islam" -- if one "moderates" Islam, it is no longer Islam and that is why their "reform movements" are no more than restorations to the 7th century.
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