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To: RitaOK
Unless I bungled the point, Romney is able to better score over Obama because the supporters of the non-Romneys remain unable to coalesce around ONE non-Romney candidate.

I'm not sure why the diffusion of support for conservative primary candidates would matter for any Republican's numbers against Obama. If someone supports Santorum over Gingrich, for example, does that mean that person is less likely to vote for Gingrich over Obama in November?

I'd be interested to see what percentage of Republicans would stay home, vote third party, or even vote for Obama rather than vote for each potential Republican nominee. I suspect the numbers are rather small.

I think Romney's performance against Obama is rather easily explained. Independents and moderates have soured on Obama, but that doesn't mean they're suddenly in love with conservative Republicans. Most of them are eager to vote against Obama so long as that doesn't mean voting for someone they like even less.

Candidates like Gingrich, Bachmann, Santorum, Paul, and Perry turn off significant portions of the moderate swing vote for various reasons. For whatever reason, Romney turns off far fewer of them.

I think it's inescapable right now that nominating someone other than Romney increases the chances that Obama will be re-elected. It may be a gamble that could pay off with a more conservative President, but it is still clearly a gamble.

I think we each need to make a sober assessment of whether its a gamble that is worth taking. I know I am giving the issue a lot of thought and, while I am still planning to vote for someone other than Romney, it isn't set in stone. Of course, the decision will likely have been made for me by the time I get to vote in April, or at least my options will be greatly reduced.

None of this is to say a good conservative candidate couldn't trounce Obama. Unfortunately, we don't really have one.
49 posted on 12/30/2011 8:24:41 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2011/InsiderAdv_Iowa_1229.pdf

Looks like it is Gingrich surging in Iowa now.

Mittens 17
Gingrich 16.7


50 posted on 12/30/2011 8:40:02 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: The Pack Knight

” I think we each need to make a sober assessment of whether its a gamble that is worth taking. “ <<<

I believe there is no gamble whatsoever here. The “sober assessment” business is standard practice for every election. It is sold to us every cycle by the Establishment, even the *conservative* media, our local moderate Republicans, and fluffed up for us, politely, by the Democrat flacks in the beltway media. (The only occasion when they are polite.) And it works. We nominate old empty suit, milquetoast moderate, bland and uninteresting, and a leader of no one, no fight, substance lite, but for what he has hustled in Congress, through plum committee appointments, ingratiating himself through compromise, for power and influence. OF COURSE, IN EVERY CASE, WE LOST.

This is being fed to us predictably this cycle as well. If a Republican ran like a Republican, we could sweep. The nation is crying for leadership and goodness, confidence and direction, from our nominee.

Romney is the only Socialist on our ticket. ( I have no words for describing Ron Paul.) And we are going to carry his water? Not a chance. If the Marxists, the Socialists and Liberals, altogether Godless, want him then let them carry his water and vote up for him. We will be done as a nation short of another Civil War.

The nation is all but gone now, but for worsening. Even if this self promoter should eek out a win, Romney lends no hope, and the final blow to capitalism, taking the freedom to work right along with it.

Our party has been co-opted. Conservatives, Christians and Evangelicals, and Constitutionalists have no place here. We shall not fit, strangers in our own homeland.

American education guarantees churning out well groomed and more little Marxists, unabated, out of control, for at least another generation. We are all become Godless.

:) Aren’t you glad you pinged me? Sorry about that, but this election is our very last hurrah. Bank it, or brave up and try to block it.


55 posted on 12/30/2011 2:31:01 PM PST by RitaOK (wRasmussen- the polling standard for accuracy.)
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