Posted on 12/24/2011 10:37:52 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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"A Gingrich campaign official prior to the move by the Republican Party of Virginia said the problem is how the rules are set up, arguing that the party is, for apparently the first time, cross-checking the addresses that signature-givers gave against the electronic voter database file for accuracies. A name without a proper address match was tossed, the official said."
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Being for Voter disenfranchisement is never a good side to be on.
My fear here is that our arguing that we are being disenfranchised, could undermine our efforts on voter ID, so I think we have to be swift but cautious in how we challenge.
What you fail to see is, Newt didn’t have the money at the critical time he needed to pay people to do the ground work for him. There is so much about this that you are totally ignorant about. (On purpose) It’s not at all, that Newt was just simply incompetent or lacked organization. He simply lacked the funding to pay for such a ridiculous rule.
I suggest you just shut your mouth for about 5 minutes and listen for a change. There are people there who are challenging this for some very obvious legal reasons. Which means, their “Rules” are bogus and are about to be torn apart in the courts.
Goose, gander.
Have a wonderful Christmas, Onyx. :)
..in a "open marriage."
Personally, I trust Gloria to keep him in line
Don't take it personally, but I don't think she has done a very good job thus far.
I don’t know about an appeals procedure, but a challenge is surely coming.
Blessed and Merry CHRISTmas, dear Salvation!!!
Smiling - thank you very much, my dear friend!!!
If you’ve ever entered a shipping address online, you’ve probably encountered a U.S. Postal Service algorithm that determines whether the shipping address is “good” or not. The address you know you’re using is a good one, but unless Amazon.com or UPS.com or the outfit you’re using to ship to a bunch of addresses can’t fit it into its own version of the “overhead bin bag size check box” you’ll see before boarding a commercial airliner, that address gets rejected as “invalid” (or you might be given an alternate address as a suggestion, or be prompted to edit what you have). The same thing might have happened here. Just guessing.
LoL!
Sorry for being cynical, it’s my nature.
I mean no harm by it.
We LOVE you so much here, good lady! (My wonderful wife also extends those thoughts as well!)
For the first time sounds fishy, agree there.
Here in Illinois they've been cross-checking signatures against addresses for years now. Although, that sure doesn't stop the Democrats here from registering the dead to vote. As long as the address of the cemetery is correct I suppose it's legit. (/sarc)
....for apparently the first time....
Well that pretty much says it all doesn't it?
Rebellion is brewing.
No, it’s inexcusable if you are a state in these United States of America and you boot the leading candidate for the presidency of one of the major parties off your ballot. This is no one percenter unheard of off the wall fringe party candidate. Neither is governor Perry or congresswoman Bachmann. It’s a disgrace to our constitutional republic!!
Thank you very much.
Merry CHRISTmas, BenKenobi!!!!
I’m not surprised if true, a lot of people don’t like giving addresses, but they are required so they can check that the signature matches someone who lives in the appropriate district.
The problem with any complaint about the rules being “too hard” is that Romney and Ron Paul both managed to qualify under those rules. If NOBODY qualified, you could make the argument. If Romney had gotten in with the 15,000-signature exception, but nobody else had, again you might have an argument.
But Ron Paul managed to get 10,000 valid signatures with addresses, and survived the verification.
Perry and Gingrich needed better staff workers, and they needed to reach out to the locals. I signed up for both campaigns and sent them e-mails reminding them of this requirement and asking how I could sign petitions. Neither got back to me until Wednesday when Gingrich had a blast e-mail about a 1-day blitz which was thursday before Christmas — good luck with that.
If they had been organized, all they needed was 44 volunteers, four in each district, to sit at to popular republican polling places in each district to collect signatures.
For example, at MY precinct, we had 932 republican voters. One volunteer, getting less than half the voters, could have gotten 400 signatures on any petition (Herman Cain had petitions at the polls, but no other candidate). 4 polling places could give you 1600 votes per district, and nearly 17000 total — more than enough.
We already had a republican representative at the polling place, who would have happily collected signatures for any candidate, but only Cain asked. So this was not a big deal, except the candidate committees in the state didn’t apparently put the work in.
I know.
:)
Aw, thanks very much. Please extend my Christmas wishes of love and joy to your beautiful wife, too.
Onyx, we just had a general election in VA last month. Because of redistricting, new voter cards were mailed out in October to every registered voter. The database is probably as good as one will ever get. (i.e., I moved since the last presidential election and got my voter card at the new address).
As much as I’d like to see error here, I fear it’s not likely. And I doubt this is the first time names/addresses were cross-checked (never trust an ‘unnamed source’). I’ll wait to hear from someone who was there both in ‘08 and yesterday.
In ‘08, McCain/Romney/Paul/Thompson/Huckabee/Giuliani all managed to get on the VA GOP primary ballot under the same qualifying rules. Something is terribly askew with the Perry and Gingrich campaigns, at least in VA. Better to find out now that they need to up their ground game than when/if becoming THE nominee. I prefer to look at this as a very serious wake up call. Dems got us in ‘08, we do NOT need a repeat.
I don’t trust any politician, and the party whores who play games even less. Gingrich and Perry are nationally recognized choices. Larouche was probably one of the most successful of the total wackjobs that ran for POTUS. I don’t begrudge a party from creating barriers to getting on the ballot but only to keep out the flakes, wackos, and other mental detectives. Keeping Gingrich and Perry off is a disservice to a free society. ; it smacks of Sovietism.
Why are you going out of your way to help Romney?
Newt is the only chance we have left. Or do you want RUN Paul?
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