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Real Clear Politics Polling Average 12/20/2011
Real Clear Politics ^ | 12/20/2011

Posted on 12/20/2011 8:08:32 AM PST by South40


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KEYWORDS: newtgingrich; pollingaverage
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1 posted on 12/20/2011 8:08:34 AM PST by South40
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To: South40

The problem I have with the polling average is that it treats all samples sizes the same, which they are not. The intial weighing of the data should be done in accordance with sample size.


2 posted on 12/20/2011 8:11:04 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: South40

Not liking that Newt line, looks too much like Perry’s...and Romney will be the beneficiary with the little time that’s left.


3 posted on 12/20/2011 8:13:10 AM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: South40; TitansAFC
Here is my data. I excluded the ABC poll since the sample size is unknown, therefore cannot be properly weighed.

Gingrich 28.99%

Romney 24.20%

Undecided 13.64%

Paul 10.90%

Bachmann 8.55%

Perry 7.35%

Santorum 3.81%

Huntsman 2.57%


4 posted on 12/20/2011 8:14:53 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: South40

Bye bye Newt.


5 posted on 12/20/2011 8:16:10 AM PST by Huck (No.)
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To: Perdogg

“This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone December 15-18 2011, among a random national sample of 1,005 adults...”


6 posted on 12/20/2011 8:25:41 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich: Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Perdogg
Gingrich 28.99% No executive experience. No Business experience.

Romney 24.20% Both business and Executive experience.

Undecided 13.64%

Paul 10.90% No executive experience. No Business experience.

Bachmann 8.55% No executive experience. Some business esperience.

Perry 7.35% Executive experience.

Santorum 3.81% No executive experience. No Business experience.

Huntsman 2.57% Executive experience.

Barak Obama - Everyday proof that lack of experience is a recipe for failure.

7 posted on 12/20/2011 8:25:56 AM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: Huck

You wish.


8 posted on 12/20/2011 8:28:37 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: South40

Wow!

Isn’t it wonderful? Your effort to take Gingrich down is paying off. Just look at those gains for ROmney! You must be overjoyed.


9 posted on 12/20/2011 8:33:13 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Perdogg
The problem I have with the polling average is that it treats all samples sizes the same, which they are not. The intial weighing of the data should be done in accordance with sample size.

I wish for this also, although it brings up a further question about weighting of Likely Voter vs. Registered Voter (not to mention Adult) polls. An even more important issue is momentum. When there is a big shift in support, averaging in the oldest polls equally just throws everything off. They should weight based on the age of each poll.

I see a lot of complaining and disbelief about polls people don't like, but in my own attempts to develop predictions in 2008 and 2010, I've learned the hard way that the polls, properly understood within their limitations, do almost always tell the truth.

We may not like them, but about the only valid basis I have for disregarding a given poll now is another, better-conducted, poll. That is, citing particular anecdotal data or lines of argument rarely gets us closer to actual voting results, because that data is already reflected in the thinking of the electorate.

10 posted on 12/20/2011 8:38:58 AM PST by Liberty1970 (Skepticism and Close-mindedness are two very different things.)
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To: RockinRight

Just temporary.

The Jihad lobbed everything at him, and he is still there.

Now he will start running his ads and go on offense.


11 posted on 12/20/2011 8:46:17 AM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: Stillwaters

RCP national poll averaging 6 polls conducted between 12/8 - 12/18.

Newt - 27.5%
Romney - 24.5%
Paul - 11.8%
Bachmann - 7.5%
Perry - 7.3%
Santorum - 3.7%
Huntsman - 2.3%

Important note: Of the six polls, the two oldest ones had Newt up by 10% and 6%. The three newest ones have Newt and Romney in a statistical tie.


12 posted on 12/20/2011 8:46:21 AM PST by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much. We will much about that be committed.)
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To: Baynative

Gingrich 28.99% No executive experience. No Business experience. Lots of conservative accomplishments (and, admittedly, liberal/progressive foot in mouthings).

Romney 24.20% Both business and Executive experience. No conservative accomplishments, lots of liberal/progressive accomplishments, as well as liberal/progressive foot in mouthings).


13 posted on 12/20/2011 8:47:16 AM PST by C210N (Dems: "We must tax you so that we can buy our votes")
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To: Perdogg

And I have problems with all of the polls that don’t weight their sample size by the appearance of conservative, moderate, liberal, and cross-over in Iowa, the US, or any state.

They weight by party when doing a head to head between the major party nominees, but they don’t reveal that they weight the sample by self-identified party niche within republican-only polls.


14 posted on 12/20/2011 8:50:04 AM PST by xzins (Pray for Our Troops Remaining in Afghanistan, now that Iran Can Focus on Injuring Only Them)
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To: Huck

Newt’s issue is money. If he comes into big money to fight back with...and soon....then he’s in the race til the end.


15 posted on 12/20/2011 8:51:44 AM PST by xzins (Pray for Our Troops Remaining in Afghanistan, now that Iran Can Focus on Injuring Only Them)
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To: South40

RCP averaging poll at this late date does indicate mood and effects of ads and attacks from the dwarfs and Romney.

Newt is in a pickle in that he has none of the cash Romney does and FOX News despises him and is in the tank for Mitt so no help there.

Talk Radio is just standing by.

hence...if Rush and Levin don’t want Romney they should lend a hand.

but the real culprits are the also rans vying for a VP nod.

Bachmann in particular whom I supported once....now behaving rather petty hoping Mitt will choose her but he won’t. He will pick an on the fence big state person who brings electoral votes.

However...the big Mo from the early primaries will effect these polls so we shall see

Gingrich needs money. I suggest anyone who doesn’t want Romney send some.


16 posted on 12/20/2011 8:54:07 AM PST by wardaddy (Michelle, Sarah, Perry now Newt over Mitt.....that is how I've seen it and it's where we are)
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To: Huck

I’m not sure that you’re correct about that.

;-)


17 posted on 12/20/2011 8:59:50 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Baynative

Newt Gingrich, no executive or business experience???

I would count being “SPEAKER of the HOUSE” as executive experience and he has had a product that he was able to sell and to deliver while earning a profit, I would count that as being “Business Experience”.


18 posted on 12/20/2011 9:03:32 AM PST by duffee (NEWT 2012)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

those folks are still sour grapes Sarah flared off the blind and Cain imploded

I just sent Newt 250

I gave Sarah enough last time around and never got on the Cain Train.

Newt is our only hope against Romney at this point unless something dramatic happens first in Iowa, NH and SC

but those now attacking Newt here do so without top dog protection like they had when they ran nasty over their previous candidates

in fact they are in opposition to JR

wonder how they will fare being ugly outside the laagers

on another topic...why do we allow two eccentric states to set the first tone over nominations?

Iowa...God love em...pretty blondes and corn and beef...great stuff but Ron Paul? I mean seriously.

New Hampshire?....last holdout in the occupied Northeast but still...more libertarian than conservative

if you really want social conservative nominees then make Mississippi and Alabama and South Carolina first...closed primaries...winner take all


19 posted on 12/20/2011 9:12:30 AM PST by wardaddy (Michelle, Sarah, Perry now Newt over Mitt.....that is how I've seen it and it's where we are)
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To: duffee; Baynative
...of course; Organizer-in-Chief OBozo, accomplishments are much more impressive,eh? ...do I really need a "/s" tag is :-\

20 posted on 12/20/2011 9:13:01 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (I can take tomorrow, spend it all today. Who can take your income, tax it all away. Obama Man can. :)
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