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Posted on 12/18/2011 7:13:39 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
Kim Jong-il is dead
Good catch
Ah, so South Korea has its own version of the NY Times, eh?
No, that is hidden very deep together with the fact about the mother of the new dear leader.
Sound like what happen when somebody mention that Lucy Liu character was half Chinese Japanese American Army brat she cut the dude head off LOL! in KILL BILL
Just a thought I had ROFL
You guys make anything of Sung-taek showing up in military garb (a full general’s uniform no less)?
He was always suspected to be one of the powers behind the throne and to be the “regent” directing Kim Jong-Eun once his dad passed. But no known history of time in the military. Strikes me that if all the other assumptions about Sung-taek are true (powerful civilian party official, had Jong-Il’s ear and hand-picked to be Jong-Eun’s regent) and now we can also add full general to the list - he is looking more and more like he is on the very top of the food chain.
Boy Obama going be p****d
My 2cents is that he is the true ruler and that he has been that for some time= more than a year. The Christmas pig (JIu) is just a symbol used by fishlips (Jang Sung-taek). Since they have a Military first principle JSt has to be on the top of the heap, i.e be 4 * general together with JSt.
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Check out this 1 hour, 22 minutes with an interesting discussion, especially by Jack Pritchard
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Jong
Death of Kim Jong Il - C-SPAN Video Library.
Thanks W for the link.
I’m sloppy with the words; the Chistmas pig is Kim Jong-un (KJu) not JIu. ;-)
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RT @W7VOA: RT @japantimes: Plan in works for possible N. Korea refugee exodus http://ow.ly/89Zxi #DPRK
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Japan is studying measures to respond to a potential refugee surge if North Korea undergoes a cataclysmic change as a result of dictator Kim Jong Il’s death last week, sources said.
Fund them, insert them, and topple those sons of bitches. But one can dream I guess. Too many reaons for nations to say "no", but they would fully support it in the case of South Africa or Rhodesia.
Joyful toasts and bitter memories: North Korean defectors grapple with death of Kim Jong Il
By Associated Press, Published: December 25
SEOUL, South Korea — More than 21,000 North Koreans now live in South Korea. For many, the news of North Korean leader Kim Jong Il’s death stirred mixed emotions.
Several interviewed in Seoul by The Associated Press described a burst of joy upon hearing that Kim had died, but also a surge of unease over the fate of relatives and friends and even a shadow of homesickness.
There was celebration — one man had drinks with a friend— and hope for a better future for their homeland. For one woman, there was sadness as she envisioned little girls cramming to memorize the Kims’ feats.
South Korea is no paradise for the defectors either; facing prejudice and lacking job skills, they rarely feel welcomed by their capitalist brethren.
Here, in their own words, are what three of them had to say:
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THE PAINTER
“I felt rather calm after hearing of Kim Jong Il’s death,” said Song Byeok, 42, a painter who learned his art drawing propaganda posters in North Korea. “I thought to myself about him: ‘You, too, are human in the end.’
“It was his destiny. He couldn’t avoid it. ... He was praised like a god, but in the end, he was only a human who fell like an autumn leaf.”
Desperate for food in 2000, Song and his father tried to cross the river into China — not to defect but just to get something to eat from relatives on the Chinese side.
He still believed Kim Jong Il was a good leader.
However, when his father was swept away by the current and drowned, border guards ignored Song’s pleas to help rescue him;
N. Korean businessmen asking Chinese traders to offer condolences over Kim's death
DANDONG, China, Dec. 26 (Yonhap) — North Korean businessmen in China are asking their local business partners to offer condolences over the death of Kim Jong-il, apparently under pressure from their government back home, Chinese traders said Monday.
Kim, who ruled North Korea with an iron fist for 17 years, died of heart failure on Dec. 17, according to the North's state media. Since the announcement two days later, the country has set up condolence venues at its embassy in Beijing, its consular offices in Shenyang, Dandong and Yanji, and other locations in China with a large North Korean population, the traders said, speaking on the condition of anonymity.
North Korean businessmen in China are apparently under pressure to draw more Chinese visitors to these venues in order to receive positive assessments from their superiors and avoid punishment, they added.
“All the North Korean traders I deal with have asked me to visit a condolence venue before the end of the mourning period on Dec. 29,” said one Chinese businessman in Dandong, which borders North Korea.
Other local traders said they were even asked to offer condolence money and wreaths of a particular size.
“I agreed to pay my respects (to Kim Jong-il) in order to save my business partner's face,” said another Chinese businessman, who also spoke on the condition of anonymity.
The local traders said, however, that North Koreans often make monetary and other requests, such as when the country is hit by natural disasters.
North Korean residents in China are offering their condolences each day, apparently to show that the condolence venues draw many visitors, they added.
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In North Korea, young Kim Jong Eun will test age-old reliance on maturity
By Marc Fisher, Published: December 23
At 28 or 29, Kim Jong Eun, the presumed new leader of North Korea, will be the youngest person ever to have authority over a nuclear arsenal.
At that age, neuroscientists say, the brain is still in the final stages of development. Developmental psychologists say there’s a good reason that America’s Founding Fathers set 35 as the minimum age for a president: People younger than that just don’t have the experience or skill to deal with complex decision making. Historians warn that the track record of young leaders is weak. The Bible puts it bluntly in Ecclesiastes: “Woe to thee, O land, when thy king is a child. . . .”
“Kim Jong Eun is not the same man that he will be in 10 years, or even in five years,” said Sam Wang, a Princeton University neuroscientist and author of “Welcome to Your Brain.” “The ongoing maturation we all have observed in people in their 20s is reflected in changes in brain structure.” The connections in the frontal part of the brain “are not quite done growing and developing. The frontal parts of the cortex are important for restraining impulses and making long-term plans.”
In the ranks of world leaders, the age-old reliance on old age — or at least middle-aged maturity — remains very much the rule.
Most world leaders these days take office at age 50 or older; President Obama was unusually young when he was sworn in at 47.
But there are a dozen or so rulers who came to power before age 30. About half are sons who succeeded their fathers. Their performance, today and through history, is less than impressive.
From Russian NTV:
http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/254454/
Soon the world will be on a "restless dead" is more - for Lenin, Ho Chi Minh, Kim Il Sung and Mao joins Kim Jong Il.
In the capital, Pyongyang, DPRK flew a group of Russian scientists from the Institute of embalmers Mausoleum. Very soon, the list of the "immortals" - Lenin, Ho Chi Minh, Kim Il Sung and Mao Zedong, add another: the deceased North Korean leader Jong-il Keach prepared to keep forever.
At the head of the Russian delegation - Professor of Laboratory at the Mausoleum of Vladislav Kazeltsev. Correspondent for "CCTV" was able to meet with scientists before leaving in the "closed country."
Vladislav Kazeltsev Professor VILAR: "The technology of our institutions, in general, commercial. This, we say, a mystery, or, so to speak, know-how. "
It is our scientists in 1995, has studied the process of tissue destruction and select the desired temperature and the impregnation solution to the previous "great" - Kim Il Sung. He now lies in a sarcophagus guarded by the DPRK.
Now his son Kim Jong-il, as the NTV correspondent Pavel Lobkov, waiting for a full body treatment with preservatives and eternal freshness of the morning in a glass coffin.
В столицу КНДР Пхеньян вылетела группа российских ученых-бальзамировщиков из института Мавзолея. Совсем скоро к списку «бессмертных» — Ленину, Хо Ши Мину, Ким Ир Сену и Мао Цзэдуну добавится еще один: усопшего лидера Северной Кореи Кич Чен Ира готовят сохранить на века.
Во главе российской делегации — профессор лаборатории при Мавзолее Владислав Казельцев. Корреспондентам программы «Центральное телевидение» удалось встретиться с ученым еще до отъезда в «закрытую страну».
Владислав Казельцев, профессор ВИЛАР: «Технология нашего учреждения, в общем-то, коммерческая. Это, будем говорить, тайна, или, так сказать, ноу-хау».
Именно наши ученые в 1995 году уже исследовали процесс разрушения тканей и подбирали нужные температуру и пропитывающие растворы для предыдущего «великого» — Ким Ир Сена. Он и сейчас лежит в охраняемом саркофаге в КНДР.
Теперь уже его сына Ким Чен Ира, как отмечает корреспондент НТВ Павел Лобков, ждет полная пропитка тела консервантами и вечная утренняя свежесть в стеклянном гробу.
From NTV:
http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/254473/
He was handsome, with thick hair and all the time something came up with. So after more than half a century, speaks of his classmates, which has become a "great leader" for a big country, an ordinary woman, Galina Ten, daughter of Soviet functionary ethnic Koreans in Pyongyang seconded to assist the post-war Korea.
NTV correspondent met with the Ten in the days when North Korea continues to mourn for Kim Jong Il, or simply the Jura, as they call it when a Gal. She sat with him in the same class at the neighboring desks last two classes of elite schools, and knows that Il in high school began to build his "career" of the leader.
He first of all invited to organize the school holidays, he is first introduced in the tradition of the school to organize a Christmas tree on New Year's great fun and the whole crowd.
Galina Ten, a classmate of Kim Jong Il: "It was the first time in the school Christmas tree. We put the Christmas tree, of course, his idea, he said there who need, and meet fun. "
Ironically, the student leader Kim Jong Il began his career as a real Westerner. In addition to trees, conducted at the school to arrange a bourgeois custom graduation parties and photographed on albums, tells NTV correspondent Pavel Lobkov. And in high school classmates from the freed slave duties.
Galina Ten, a classmate of Kim Jong Il: "Everyone should have for the country for 40 days a year to work out free of charge. Dig holes for poles to pull the power lines. "
But for the country's Don Quixote, he did not. With him from starvation in the 90s killed about one million citizens, the exact figures are unknown, said Paul Lobkov.
«Мы его Юрой звали», — рассказывает спустя почти полвека одноклассница «великого руководителя» КНДР Ким Чен Ира.
Он был красивый, с густыми волосами и все время что-нибудь придумывал. Так спустя более полувека отзывается о своем однокласснике, ставшем «великим руководителем» для большой страны, обычная женщина Галина Тен, дочь советского функционера этнического корейца, командированного в Пхеньян для помощи послевоенной Корее.
Корреспондент НТВ встретился с Тен в дни, когда Северная Корея продолжает рыдать по Ким Чен Иру, или просто Юре, как называла его когда-то Галя. Она просидела с ним в одном классе за соседними партами два последних класса элитной школы и знает, что Ир еще в школе начал строить свою «карьеру» вождя.
Он первым из всех предложил устраивать школьные праздники, это он первым ввел традицию в той школе организовывать елку на Новый год и здорово веселиться всей толпой.
Галина Тен, одноклассница Ким Чен Ира: «Была впервые в этой школе елка. Поставили елку, конечно, по его идее, он там сказал кому надо, и встретили весело».
По иронии судьбы, школьник Ким Чен Ир начинал карьеру как настоящий западник. Кроме елки, вел в школе буржуазный обычай устраивать выпускные вечера и фотографироваться на альбомы, рассказывает корреспондент НТВ Павел Лобков. И еще в школе освободил одноклассников от рабских повинностей.
Галина Тен, одноклассница Ким Чен Ира: «Каждый должен был во имя Родины 40 дней в году отработать безвозмездно. Копать для столбов ямы, чтобы подтягивать электролинии».
Но для страны Дон Кихотом он не стал. При нем от голода в 90-е погибло около миллиона сограждан, точные цифры неизвестны, отмечает Павел Лобков.
December 26, 2011
Jang Song-taek Cements Position in N.Korean Regime
Jang Song-taek, the uncle and patron of new North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, appeared on state TV on Sunday dressed in full military uniform for the first time. Until now, Jang had only been spotted in a suit and tie.
Korean Central TV broadcast footage of Kim Jong-un and Jang paying their respects to dead leader Kim Jong-il, who lies in state at Kumsusan Memorial Hall in Pyongyang. Jang's insignia confirm his military status as a four-star general in addition to his existing titles of vice chairman of the powerful National Defense Commission, member of the Workers Party's Central Military Commission and director of the party's Administration Department. Some experts believe this suggests that he is serving as the regent overseeing Kim Jong-un's fledgling regime.
◆ 'Military First' Doctrine Holds
In a front-page editorial on Thursday, the official Rodong Sinmun daily announced the leadership of Kim Jong-un and used the term "songun" or military-first doctrine 21 times. A source said, "The royal family consisting of Kim Jong-un, Jang and his wife Kim Kyong-hui all became generals demonstrating their will to continue Kim Jong-il's songun doctrine."
Kim Jong-un and Kim Kyong-hui (65), who is the head of the Workers Party's Light Industry Department and member of the Politburo, were both awarded the title of four-star general during a party congress in September last year.
When Kim Kyong-hui became the first female general in North Korea's military, front-line troops apparently scoffed at the promotion saying they had become "grandma's army." But there are no records showing Jang receiving his rank of general. "It appears that Jang was made a general when he was promoted to vice chairman of the National Defense Commission in June last year or was given the rank in a hurry to fill up the power vacuum created by Kim Jong-il's death," an intelligence source said.
It is apparently quite common in North Korea for individuals to be awarded military ranks even if they have never been soldiers, as long as they are in charge of munitions, public security or intelligence operations. The late Hwang Jang-yop, former secretary of the Workers Party who was the highest-ranking North Korean official to defect to South Korea, once said, "I had a chance to go the Soviet Union with Jon Byong-ho," who was in charge of munitions affairs in the party in the 1970s and is now director of the Politburo, "and was surprised to see a civilian in a military uniform with a lieutenant general's insignia. It looked like every member of the National Defense Commission was given a military rank."
◆ Jang and His Wife Rise in Status
Kim Kyong-hui was 14th on the list of Kim Jong-il's funeral committee released last Monday, and Jang 19th. But Kim Kyong-hui was fifth in line among officials paying their respects to Kim's body on Tuesday and Friday, while Jang stood next to Ri Yong-ho to the right of Kim Jong-un. This shows the rise in status of Jang and his wife since Kim Jong-il's death.
Ryu Dong-ryeol, a North Korea expert at the Police Policy Research Institute, said, "If Kim Jong-un is promoted to chairman of the party's Central Military Commission [from his current post as vice chairman], it looks like Jang will be promoted to first vice chairman." The Central Military Commission is now believed to be the regime's most powerful organization.
But other experts believe Jang will not be able to rise far enough to challenge Kim Jong-un. Chung Sung-jang of the Sejong Institute said, "Kim Jong-un will play a central role in the process of power succession, while his uncle Jang Song-thaek has been awarded proper titles."
They say Jang was made a four-star general since his subordinate and Workers Party secretary Choe Ryong-hae and his wife were both already promoted to generals last year.
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