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Posted on 12/18/2011 7:13:39 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Kim Jong-il is dead


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To: AdmSmith

China Moves to Ensure Stability in North Korea

BEIJING — Following the death of Kim Jong-il, the North Korean leader, China is moving quickly to deepen its influence over senior officials in North Korea and particularly with those in the military to try to ensure stability in the isolated nation, according to Chinese and foreign former government officials and analysts.

Mr. Kim’s death “means that China will have to assume a heavier responsibility over the relationship in order to maintain peace and stability on the Korean peninsula,” said Xu Wenji, a professor of Northeast Asian studies at Jilin University and a former Chinese envoy to South Korea.

Shi Yinhong, a professor of international relations at Renmin University in Beijing, said, “The death significantly enhances uncertainty on the peninsula.” He added: “In my personal view, the succession is very hastily arranged and Kim Jong-un is very ill-prepared to take over.”

“Frankly speaking, there is a substantial chance of political instability in North Korea,” he said. “This is based on the nature of the regime, the inadequate process of succession and economic hardships in the country.”

“At this moment, China might provide the best chance of stability,” said Bob Carlin, a former State Department official and fellow at Stanford University who travels to North Korea.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/20/world/asia/china-moves-to-ensure-stability-in-north-korea.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&seid=auto&smid=tw-nytimes


461 posted on 12/19/2011 7:14:27 AM PST by jhpigott (North Korea - The land of lousy options)
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To: A_Niceguy_in_CA

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462 posted on 12/19/2011 7:14:45 AM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Cause of death: Combination of acute myocardial infarction and cardiac shock(?)

I would have thought somebody would shoot him in the head, but shooting him in the heart works, too.

463 posted on 12/19/2011 7:16:51 AM PST by Burkean Buckleyite
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To: TigerLikesRooster

She must be one of the few in NK who is decently fed.... she looks rather chubby.

I wish she could see numerous FReeper merrily posting snide remarks and mocking the late great leader...... it would definitely put her over the edge.


464 posted on 12/19/2011 7:17:06 AM PST by Enchante
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To: TigerLikesRooster

oooooh myyy that is wild!

talk about incendiary news reporting


465 posted on 12/19/2011 7:19:54 AM PST by Enchante
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To: jhpigott

260,000 to 400,000 troops are required if NK collapses. http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/ML13Dg01.html


466 posted on 12/19/2011 7:23:49 AM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: mkjessup

LOL. The “polarizing leader” bushwa made me spew my tea :-(


467 posted on 12/19/2011 7:23:49 AM PST by mewzilla (Santelli 2012)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

North Korea: New moronic leader, same HELLHOLE of a country.


468 posted on 12/19/2011 7:40:32 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12... Don't complain if 0 shreds the constitution!!!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; mkjessup; SevenofNine; Jet Jaguar; Steel Wolf; stephenjohnbanker; Ronin; ...
Monitored Radio Pyongyang on AM, Korean domestic service, just now at midnight local. I heard Japanese earlier in the evening for oversease broadcasting at a different frequency. Came in very clear to Tokyo due to the cold season now.

Certifiably insane, those people up there. Truly.

The DPRK female annnouncer at midnight (20 minutes ago) Pyongyang time, read the various titles of Kim Jong il, then fought back the tears to explain he was now dead and gone. She went back and forth, from revolutionary ferocity and resolve in the voice with an element of strength and firmness (i.e. "the Taeddongang Rant"), to quaking, and near shreaking, then sobbing uncontrollably as she read the news. At one brief point, it sounded like she was in the throes of an orgasm, in such physical passion. This is a national news anchor folks.

I think we need a) a professional actor or actress, and b) a professional mental health professional...to analyze these North Korean broadcasts.

It sounds very convincing on the face of it, until you hear how quickly she spins back into a controlled voice without wavering, then back into sobbing. I do believe that these reporters are not only journalists but from acting professions. They are clearly trying to stir up mass hysteria through continued brainwashing, and then transition the national mindset from Kim Jong il (dead as a duck) to the dictator son, Kim Jong Eun, the Boy who would be King (if the military and Fish Lips let him).

I believe this Norkie announcerette (sounded like in her 50s) is not the same person as Ms. Ri, aka Pyongyang Patty (in very late 50s or early 60s), who was decked out in black today on DPRK State TV and sobbing away as she read the news about Chia Pet. They sure brought her quickly out of retirement for that task.

I noted on State TV tonight at the huge statue to Kimilsung at Mansudae Hill, that people immediately in the center giving flower bocquetes and falling to their kneees in anguish and tears, were really over playing it, but if you look in the distance at the crowd in more distant parts, there facial expressions were rather controlled and neutral, like they were going through the same souless mass orchestrated expression of "love" for their leader they have been forced into doing against their will a 1,000 times before...only this time he had kicked the bucket. I believe there is an element of mass pyschosis, but I also think if you scratch deep enough, this is all built on a house of cards and in most peoples' heart of hearts, they all know this is bullshit but just have to go along to avoid being sent to Camp Yodok as corkwood.

They are now playing lilting low key mourning music, much like the old Soviet Union after Chernenko or Andropov checked out. But earlier tonight it was a combination of revolutionary tunes, the March of Marshal Kim Jong il, the Internationale, then commentary by male and female announcers on the verge of tears, then slightly more upbeat revolutionary songs, then another announcer reading the long list of official funeral mourners from the leadership of the Party (in order of ranking). I heard a little praise of Kim Jong Eun as the Great Successor, but it was about 95 Percent centered on the old man.

469 posted on 12/19/2011 7:46:16 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Our Cuban Missile Crisis is underway, on Obongo's watch, deep in Chavez's Venezuelan jungles w/ Iran)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Kim Jong sucks no more


470 posted on 12/19/2011 7:48:32 AM PST by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I just wonder how having a fat tub of goo, like Kim Jong-Eun is going to go over in a country where people are starving?


471 posted on 12/19/2011 7:49:14 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Doogle

So does this mean, no “Team America II”?


472 posted on 12/19/2011 7:50:27 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Any differences on the radio compared to when Kim Il-sung checked out?


473 posted on 12/19/2011 7:53:43 AM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Ok so the new leader’s name is Kim Jong Eunuch?


474 posted on 12/19/2011 7:54:49 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12... Don't complain if 0 shreds the constitution!!!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Ok so the new leader’s name is Kim Jong Eunuch?


475 posted on 12/19/2011 7:54:49 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12... Don't complain if 0 shreds the constitution!!!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Look at the face of the kid with the red scarf standing in line (2nd photo)


476 posted on 12/19/2011 7:55:46 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: dfwgator

This is where destablization measures come in. Propaganda balloons, black ops broadcasts, rumor spreading, grafitti, hit and run flyers (anti Kim Jong Eun, especially for being fat and well off while people eat tree bark, dogs, bugs and each other), etc. If the civilized world wanted to bring down this monstrosity (like they did with apartheid in South Africa or Rhodesia), they could do it, but the world is not anti communist, and certainly not Obama. PS News filtering that NK has closed the border with China, and in one town and area, Musan, is stationing armed KPA soldiers every 12 feet. Even young children are being told not to go out. They want to prevent mass escapes during this tentative, unstable period of transition from a man to a kid (essentially), with a lot of jealous people around there. Think of KPA generals who really fought fiercely against the US and allies in 1950s...with less medals on their uniforms than this snot nosed European-raised brat who would know a military salute if one came up and bit him.


477 posted on 12/19/2011 7:58:58 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Our Cuban Missile Crisis is underway, on Obongo's watch, deep in Chavez's Venezuelan jungles w/ Iran)
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To: All

Sorry for the double posting. Sometimes the smartphone is smarter than me.


478 posted on 12/19/2011 8:01:45 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12... Don't complain if 0 shreds the constitution!!!)
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To: AdmSmith

Pretty much the same script on Radio Pyongyang from when Kim Il Sung kicked the bucket. Remember, it is rumored the Kim Jong il caused his death. They had a ferocious argument over something and the old man croaked of a heart attack on the spot. I find it ironic, if true, that if Kim Jong il went as they say, it was from a massive heart attack as well. The crowds by the way to me at least, do not seem as intense for Kim Jong il as they were for Kim il Sung, but we will see. The news announcers are definitely telling them by example to be distraught and beside themselves.


479 posted on 12/19/2011 8:03:23 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Our Cuban Missile Crisis is underway, on Obongo's watch, deep in Chavez's Venezuelan jungles w/ Iran)
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To: dfwgator

"..no silry,it means Team America Lite"

480 posted on 12/19/2011 8:06:20 AM PST by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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