Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Handgun ownership surges in new groups (Women, gays, liberals and college kids)
Charlotte Observer ^ | Dec. 12, 2011 | Ken Wells

Posted on 12/12/2011 9:58:57 AM PST by Between the Lines

Robin Natanel picks up a compact black pistol, barrel pointed down range. Gripping the gun with both hands, she raises the semi-automatic and methodically squeezes off five shots. If the target were a person's head or heart, he'd probably be dead.

Natanel is a Buddhist and self-avowed "spiritual person," a 53-year-old divorcee who lives alone in a liberal-leaning suburb near Boston. She's a tai chi instructor who invokes the benefits of meditation. And at least twice a month, she takes her German-made Walther PK380 to a shooting range and blazes away.

Natanel is one of a growing number of people in groups once considered anti-handgun - women, liberals, gays and college kids - who have been buying weapons. They are part of a national trend: Domestic handgun production and imports more than doubled over four years to about 4.6 million in 2009, according to the National Shooting Sports Foundation.

The surge has been propelled by shifting politics and demographics that have made it easier and more acceptable than at any time in 75 years for Americans to buy and carry handguns. Post-9/11 fears seem to be a factor, as are the pro-gun politicking of the National Rifle Association and the marketing, particularly to women, by handgun manufacturers. Events like the Dec. 8 fatal shootings on the Virginia Tech University campus reinforce a feeling that the world is an unsafe place, even as violent U.S. crime rates fall.

Two years ago, an ex-boyfriend broke into Natanel's house when she wasn't home. The police advised a restraining order. Instead, she bought pepper spray and programmed the local police number on her cellphone's speed dial.

"I was constantly terrified for my safety," she says.

Ultimately, she got the pistol.

Natanel found it was no trouble to purchase the Walther, a brand favored by movie superspy James Bond, or to locate experts to train her. Her circumstances won her a concealed-carry permit in a state with tough gun-control laws.

"I'd never considered a gun," Natanel says. "...I didn't think anyone should have them."

'Clear societal change'

Twenty years ago, 76 percent of women felt that way about handguns, and 68 percent of all people in the country were wary enough of firearms of any kind to tell Gallup pollsters that they backed laws more strictly limiting their sale. Then what Gallup calls "a clear societal change" began.

In October, a Gallup poll found record-low support for a handgun ban - at 26 percent among all responders and 31 percent among women.

The poll, which has tracked gun attitudes since 1959, documented a record-low 43 percent who favor making it more difficult to acquire guns and record-high numbers of women and Democrats saying there is a firearm at their home. Forty-seven percent said someone in the household owns at least one gun, the highest reading in 18 years.

Skeptics object

Americans who have acquired handguns for protection are living with "serious delusions," says Caroline Brewer, a spokeswoman for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. She contends that few are trained rigorously enough to deploy their weapons in the shock and heat of an attack, that they'll shoot innocent bystanders, and that more times than not their firearms will be turned against them.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 141-147 next last
To: Neoliberalnot
Homosexuals with guns is a really dangerous combination.

Bullcrap. Check out www.pinkpistols.com

61 posted on 12/12/2011 11:51:01 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Between the Lines

Stats show ccw citizens shoot fewer rounds at a threat, hit their threats more often with less rounds, and accidentally hit far fewer innocent bystanders than police officers.


62 posted on 12/12/2011 11:54:41 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lurker

Thanks, but I will leave the pervert sites for you to view.


63 posted on 12/12/2011 11:55:10 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: brownsfan
What’s the best bang for the buck in a home protection firearm?

Mossberg 500A shotgun in 12 or 20 gauge. They run less than $300 or so usually.

64 posted on 12/12/2011 11:56:43 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: ExCTCitizen

Probably. He had been drinking that night. Homos don’t do anything ‘just a little’. Self-control isn’t exactly a gay virtue.


65 posted on 12/12/2011 11:57:00 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Ruger LC-R if she likes revolvers.


66 posted on 12/12/2011 11:57:49 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Joe Brower

Pictures, pictures, pictures.


67 posted on 12/12/2011 11:58:20 AM PST by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Neoliberalnot
Shep pretty much got most of what he deserved. He was a pervert druggie that received his reward.

Sorry... I don't believe that Matthew needed to be killed. If you are a conservative, then you are a poor excuse for one. I don't believe ANYONE should be killed because he is gay.

68 posted on 12/12/2011 11:59:24 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (Cain/West 2012....what would the RACISTS LIBERALS say???)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: tickedoffnow

How true.

I still remember an interview with Charles Heston where he described during the LA riots, bunches of liberal friends calling him up asking to borrow guns from him. He told them just go out to a gun store and get one. “Well, there’s this waiting period” they’d say. He said “Well you voted for people who said that was a good idea.”

I don’t believe he loaned any of them any of his firearms. Weren’t trained to handle them anyway. Much less take care of them properly.


69 posted on 12/12/2011 12:01:06 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: mamelukesabre
I have often thought of building a buttstock for a break action single shot that has a built in “pez dispenser” like shell dispenser

Just pick up a Saiga. Not cheap ($800-$2000 depending on options), but if you need more than one 12 gauge round they are one of the best options out there. Not an attractive weapon, but it is going to work when you need it.

70 posted on 12/12/2011 12:02:53 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Secret Agent Man

They probably would have sued him if they hurt themselves with the guns they borrowed.


71 posted on 12/12/2011 12:04:20 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: ExCTCitizen
There ‘game’, as you say, is not that. They want to protect themselves against bcoming a Matthew Shepard victim. If Matthew Shepard had agun, do you think would be dead by morons?

It is my understanding of the Matthew Shephard incident that it was simply a beef between meth heads. The fact that Shephard was gay did not play into his death, but the pro-gay media jumped on his sexuality in order to manufacture another martyr and continue the lie that homosexuals are being oppressed in this country. If anything, homosexuals in 21st century USA have to be the most privileged, protected class of people in the history of the world.

That said, if Shephard had had a gun, he probably wouldn't be dead.
72 posted on 12/12/2011 12:05:13 PM PST by fr_freak
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: brownsfan
Go to a range and try a number of different firearms. Take a basic course that will teach you about safe usage and storage and then the answers to your questions will come to you.
73 posted on 12/12/2011 12:05:16 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: joe fonebone
"Does arming a liberal create a libertarian?"

No...... a small L libertarian is a strict constitutionalist.... something a conservative is not.. and something a nut job like ron paul is not.... small L libertarians are more constitutionally focused than ANY conservative.... that is why conservatives attack them relentlessly...conservatives and liberals want to control you with laws... the only difference is which side of the spectrum these laws come from..

You said it...the libertarian is a strict constitutionalist. Both want to control you with laws...I'm a LIBERTARIAN REPUBLICAN (a Republician registered), but I believe in the constitution.

74 posted on 12/12/2011 12:07:18 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (Cain/West 2012....what would the RACISTS LIBERALS say???)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: MrB

Probably.


75 posted on 12/12/2011 12:08:07 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

To: Secret Agent Man
Granted he was drinking and making passes...I've seen straight drunks make passes at my wife. I never killed them though.

Matthew Shepard shouldn't have been killed. If he had a gun he might be alive today.

76 posted on 12/12/2011 12:14:03 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (Cain/West 2012....what would the RACISTS LIBERALS say???)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: Joe Brower; Between the Lines

They forgot “people who moved from an anti-2ndA state to a friendlier one and bought a passel of ordnance and really, really love shooting.” Just sayin’.


77 posted on 12/12/2011 12:14:38 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: fr_freak
I have to see if I can find any info on why he was murdered. If he died because of his drug using...and the others were the same (and I think you might be right), his be gay doesn't have much to do with it (unless he was unhappy being gay).

That said, noone should kill GAYS, unless your life (or your family's life) are threatened.

78 posted on 12/12/2011 12:20:32 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (Cain/West 2012....what would the RACISTS LIBERALS say???)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]

To: mamelukesabre
I have often thought of building a buttstock for a break action single shot that has a built in “pez dispenser” like shell dispenser. Break the barrel and grab a shell and slide it into the barrel. The “pez dispenser” could even be made to utilize detachable box magazines.

I've had similar ideas, but the wrist of a shotgun buttstock is a weak spot to begin with. Notice how the "Speedfeed" buttstocks have the magazine components and loading port well clear of the handgrip area.

79 posted on 12/12/2011 12:22:23 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Joe Brower

One gun for all-around castle defense, for a relative newbie to shooting?

No question: pump shotgun, 12 or even 20 guage.

Cheap, gets the job done as well or better than any pistol.


80 posted on 12/12/2011 12:37:11 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 141-147 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson