Posted on 12/09/2011 1:31:59 PM PST by Jim Robinson
I posted the below in response to a FReeper who asked me what we should do in regards to progressives Newt and Romney. And he asked me what would George Washington do? So I got to thinking about why I've been gravitating towards Newt. In fact it kept me up for half the night.
Here is my reply:
Well, I’ll tell you, after Palin declined to run I really didn’t have a dog in this race. I liked Bachmann and Cain a lot, even Perry, but not as much as I liked Palin. Bachmann and Cain are both conservative enough, but neither have really been tested in higher office, nor do they have much experience in world affairs.
I also had high hopes for Perry because it looks like he’s done a great job in Texas, but his positions on the border issues turned off a lot of people. And his “heartless” statement didn’t win him much opportunity to turn that around.
I guess Santorum is conservative enough and possibly Huntsman, but neither engender much enthusiasm or excitement. Seems they’re just going through the motions. Don’t know if they have the real world experience to be CINC anyway.
Bachmann seems to be trying really hard but don’t know if she’s really qualified for the top spot either. Even so, had Bachmann really lit a fuse on the trail, I probably would have stood by and supported her, but she flopped and is unlikely to recover.
I thought early on that if Perry got into the race (without Palin) that he’d suck all the air out of it and would dominate. But he flopped. And then Cain took off like a rocket and he flopped.
Now Cain didn’t have elective experience, but he looked like a great conservative so we were all hoping and pulling for him. Well, that didn’t turn out well.
Mind you, that abortionist, lib progressive bastard Mitt Romney is just sitting there smiling through all this and he, Rove and the GOP elite think they’ve got it in the bag. Just gotta hang in there, not say anything rash, not rock the boat, no mistakes, just play defense as one by one the upstart tea party conservative candidates burn themselves out.
In my mind, we must defeat Romney AND Obama. I don’t think George Washington is going to be smiling down on us if we had this great tea party opportunity to knock off the progressives and we let Rove, Romney and the corrupt good old boys club bushwhack us. We’re supposed to be the bushwhackers.
So like a whole lot of conservative Republicans and tea party folks, we’re bouncing candidate to candidate looking for the one to knock off Romney so we can take the tea party battle directly to Obama. Romney is no tea party person. He and Rove, et al, sneer at us. No way in hell are they going to do anything we’re interested in doing even if they do get elected. It’ll be government as usual. Big. They hate us worse than they hate the democrats because we’re a direct threat to their power base.
So in comes Gingrich. Didn’t much care for him at first, mainly because of his well known baggage, and his perceived RINO plumage, but he began making a lot of sense and scoring a lot of points in the debates. Turns out his depth of knowledge and experience in government affairs both domestic and foreign and his experience with Ronald Reagan, the Reagan Revolution and the Republican Revolution of the 90’s are quite extensive and quite impressive if you look.
He’s been through the mill and that’s what a lot of our younger less experienced, less traveled candidates are missing. In the debates he comes off as a wiser, more experienced, more knowledgeable, level-headed senior statesman. And it appeared to me that the other candidates acknowledged and respected that.
So I start thinking back about his history as a congressman and speaker, and lo and behold, it appears to me he’s not such a RINO after all. He was a genuine Reagan protege. And he learned well from the master communicator. He eventually set a goal for himself to build a Republican majority and to take the speakership, and he determinately accomplished that goal.
And he had some great conservative accomplishments as congressman and speaker. He passed the contract with America. He cut taxes. Cut the deficit. Reformed welfare. Blocked HillaryCare. Became a thorn in President Clinton’s side, blocked much of his liberal agenda and ultimately allowed impeachment to proceed. Then of course, he resigned due to his own infidelity scandal. But, unlike Clinton, he didn’t deny it, didn’t lie about it, and he did the right thing by resigning.
Bottom line though, through his years with the Reagan Revolution and the Republican majority much conservative good was accomplished. The Wall came down, the Soviet Union collapsed and our great Reagan economy flourished for two decades.
Now, if a progressive RINO had been in charge of the congress during this period, who knows what would have happened. I’m sure the history would have been a lot different. Remember, before Gingrich and his Republican Majority, we conservatives had wandered in the wilderness for 40 years!! And our country was on life support after Jimmy Carter nearly killed it. And the democrats were saying at the time that there was nothing we could do about it. We were going to be stuck with the cold war. Stuck with the Soviet Union, stuck with Iran. Stuck with high oil prices, gas lines and rationing. Stuck with recession, high interest rates, high inflation and high unemployment from that point forward. They could not be fixed. Jimmy Carter and the democrats had given up on America and surrendered the USA to our fate as a failed nation.
In walk Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrich and reestablish that great shining city on the hill! Thank God! It’s not the end of the world after all. Iran returns the hostages immediately. Reagan takes the Soviet Union head on! Reagan takes the democrats head on and doesn’t take no for an answer. Takes his ideas to the people. It was a struggle but eventually the economy began turning. Reagan’s central theme domestically was that the government was too big, too intrusive, taxes too high, too much spending, too many regulations, too many restrictions on business and industry and they all must be cut. And he took that battle over the heads of the democrat congress to the tax payers and they loved it. Sound familiar?
And in 1994, Newt Gingrich leads the charge against the democrats who had been in power for 40 years and the Republicans take the majority and Gingrich becomes Speaker. He dreams up the contract with America which was designed as an extension of the Reagan Revolution and and included items attempting to balance the budget, reform welfare, tort reform, term limits, line item veto, etc. Some of it was successfully implemented, some not. But under Gingrich they did cut the deficit and balance the budget four years running. Sound desirable? Sound progressive?
How many times in our history have you seen a liberal progressive, cut taxes, cut regulations, cut spending, cut welfare, balance the budget, block big government programs like HillaryCare, impeach a sitting president, etc?
Never! In other words, all this to say Newt is NO RINO!! He’s a pro-life, pro-small government, pro-national security, Reagan conservative!! In short, we’re desperate, and he’s exactly what we’re looking for, and he’s running head and shoulders over the rest of the field, so what the hell are we squabbling about?
Yes, Romney and Rove hate him, the Republican establishment elite ruling class hates him, the liberals hate him, the democrats hate him and they hate him for the same reasons the taxpayers will support him, the lovers of liberty will support him, the defenders of life will support him, the defenders of national security will support him, the lovers of the Reagan Revolution will support him, and we the tea party should support him!! He’s a tax cutting, budget balancing, strong defense, small government, pro-life Reagan CONSERVATIVE!!
After reviewing Newt vs Romney, George Washington would say, go, NEWT!!
I’ll take a chance with Newt. Over Romney? You betcha!!
What say you?
Perhaps you could draw the distintion between liberal women and conservative women. That way you wouldn’t come off as a jerk.
You get it, Lakeshark, you get it.
“Newt, you magnificent bastard!”
Great ending. ;>)
Ad hominem attacks....admission you have no argument.
If it weren’t for women there never would have been a President Clinton nor a President Obama. Period.
I hope you are right. We really don’t have a great deal of choice. Newt is better than Romney because we know he can be molded and shaped by favorable opinion.
All I know this go round is that I cannot sit back and let Obama finish off the US. It my happen anyway. Look at how the left has invaded every nook and cranny of our lives. It frightens me. Indoctrination frightens me.
There isn’t much left to lose. I wish we could have done better this time, but we may have to take the best we can get and pray it works out.
A few articles comparing Newt to Churchill:
http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=181725
http://bobmccarty.com/2011/12/07/newt-gingrich-americas-21st-century-churchill/
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/284220/mcquaid-gingrich-resembles-churchill-brian-bolduc
Article from May 2011 about Newt’s chances of winning:
Indeed. It depends on who they are talking to on that particular day or occasion.
The surface reason Newt was pushed out of the speaker’s position was his affair.
The underlying (actual) reason is that, as speaker, he used his position to push the GOP house to the right. Insisting that they actually stay true to the promises they made in the Contract with America. That generated a lot of bad-will from more “seasoned” Republicans that were more worried about retaining their seats than getting things done.
You see the same dynamic with the “Tea Party” freshmen in the house. They were the target of a lot of wrath from other GOP congressmen, because they insisted on holding firm on their promises, instead of “being practical” and compromising their principles.
Newt is not for ObamaCare. He is committed to repeal it and repeal, abolish, rescind everything Obama.
Not all women. Unmarried women.
Why are they unmarried? Because they are young (Dem base), minority (Dem base) or radical feminist (Dem base).
It’s not because of their gender, it’s the demographic.
The record of actual accomplishments says it, not me. It’s not necessarily right or wrong, it just is.
I’ll take Newt’s record of actual accomplishments any day of the week over Mitt’s. They’re polar opposites.
Your chameleon is Romney. Newt has been a Reagan conservative all along. Doesn’t have to pretend to be pro-life or pretend to appreciate Reagan. Newt was there. Romney was in the land of denial
You can divide males demographically also. Unless you believe somehow there are no young and minority and radical males.
Back to my original argument that you took objective to. Newt will not win a majority of the female vote, not because of his background but simply because he is Republican. He could be the pillar of virtue and he wouldn’t win a majority of women. Reagan was the last Republican male to win a majority of female voters...barely.
Married women vote liberal much more than married men. Unmarried women vote liberal much more than unmarried men. Men consistently vote in greater percentages for conservative candidates and women vote in greater percentages for liberal candidates.
And as would be expected, I am dealing with facts and you are dealing with emotion, which is the root of the problem.
It is not demographics, it is simply that a majority of women are unthinking idiots politically. (look up majority by the way...it does not mean all...unless you get all emotional about it)
I agree to a point.
Never have thought he was a good choice.
I could vote for him under some circumstances.
What good choice do we have?
Just curious can you cite anything Bachmann has actually done, not just talked about but accomplished?
Just curious can you cite anything Bachmann has actually done, not just talked about but accomplished?
I think everyone should watch this interview w Kudlow outstanding stuff:
http://www.nationalreview.com/kudlows-money-politics/285135/one-one-newt-gingrich
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