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To: Carolyn826; Oynx; TheOldLady; trisham; RedMDer; DJ MacWoW; JoeProBono; Dengar01; xzins; ...

Just posted to another thread where a FReeper asked me about “progressive” Newt:

Well, I’ll tell you, after Palin declined to run I really didn’t have a dog in this race. I liked Bachmann and Cain a lot, even Perry, but not as much as I liked Palin. Bachmann and Cain are both conservative enough, but neither have really been tested in higher office, nor do they have much experience in world affairs.

I also had high hopes for Perry because it looks like he’s done a great job in Texas, but his positions on the border issues turned off a lot of people. And his “heartless” statement didn’t win him much opportunity to turn that around.

I guess Santorum is conservative enough and possibly Huntsman, but neither engender much enthusiasm or excitement. Seems they’re just going through the motions. Don’t know if they have the real world experience to be CINC anyway.

Bachmann seems to be trying really hard but don’t know if she’s really qualified for the top spot either. Even so, had Bachmann really lit a fuse on the trail, I probably would have stood by and supported her, but she flopped and is unlikely to recover.

I thought early on that if Perry got into the race (without Palin) that he’d suck all the air out of it and would dominate. But he flopped. And then Cain took off like a rocket and he flopped.

Now Cain didn’t have elective experience, but he looked like a great conservative so we were all hoping and pulling for him. Well, that didn’t turn out well.

Mind you, that abortionist, lib progressive bastard Mitt Romney is just sitting there smiling through all this and he, Rove and the GOP elite think they’ve got it in the bag. Just gotta hang in there, not say anything rash, not rock the boat, no mistakes, just play defense as one by one the upstart tea party conservative candidates burn themselves out.

In my mind, we must defeat Romney AND Obama. I don’t think George Washington is going to be smiling down on us if we had this great tea party opportunity to knock off the progressives and we let Rove, Romney and the corrupt good old boys club bushwhack us. We’re supposed to be the bushwhackers.

So like a whole lot of conservative Republicans and tea party folks, we’re bouncing candidate to candidate looking for the one to knock off Romney so we can take the tea party battle directly to Obama. Romney is no tea party person. He and Rove, et al, sneer at us. No way in hell are they going to do anything we’re interested in doing even if they do get elected. It’ll be government as usual. Big. They hate us worse than they hate the democrats because we’re a direct threat to their power base.

So in comes Gingrich. Didn’t much care for him at first, mainly because of his well known baggage, and his perceived RINO plumage, but he began making a lot of sense and scoring a lot of points in the debates. Turns out his depth of knowledge and experience in government affairs both domestic and foreign and his experience with Ronald Reagan, the Reagan Revolution and the Republican Revolution of the 90’s are quite extensive and quite impressive if you look.

He’s been through the mill and that’s what a lot of our younger less experienced, less traveled candidates are missing. In the debates he comes off as a wiser, more experienced, more knowledgeable, level-headed senior statesman. And it appeared to me that the other candidates acknowledged and respected that.

So I start thinking back about his history as a congressman and speaker, and lo and behold, it appears to me he’s not such a RINO after all. He was a genuine Reagan protege. And he learned well from the master communicator. He eventually set a goal for himself to build a Republican majority and to take the speakership, and he determinately accomplished that goal.

And he had some great conservative accomplishments as congressman and speaker. He passed the contract with America. He cut taxes. Cut the deficit. Reformed welfare. Blocked HillaryCare. Became a thorn in President Clinton’s side, blocked much of his liberal agenda and ultimately allowed impeachment to proceed. Then of course, he resigned due to his own infidelity scandal. But, unlike Clinton, he didn’t deny it, didn’t lie about it, and he did the right thing by resigning.

Bottom line though, through his years with the Reagan Revolution and the Republican majority much conservative good was accomplished. The Wall came down, the Soviet Union collapsed and our great Reagan economy flourished for two decades.

Now, if a progressive RINO had been in charge of the congress during this period, who knows what would have happened. I’m sure the history would have been a lot different. Remember, before Gingrich and his Republican Majority, we conservatives had wandered in the wilderness for 40 years!! And our country was on life support after Jimmy Carter nearly killed it. And the democrats were saying at the time that there was nothing we could do about it. We were going to be stuck with the cold war. Stuck with the Soviet Union, stuck with Iran. Stuck with high oil prices, gas lines and rationing. Stuck with recession, high interest rates, high inflation and high unemployment from that point forward. They could not be fixed. Jimmy Carter and the democrats had given up on America and surrendered the USA to our fate as a failed nation.

In walk Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrich and reestablish that great shining city on the hill! Thank God! It’s not the end of the world after all. Iran returns the hostages immediately. Reagan takes the Soviet Union head on! Reagan takes the democrats head on and doesn’t take no for an answer. Takes his ideas to the people. It was a struggle but eventually the economy began turning. Reagan’s central theme domestically was that the government was too big, too intrusive, taxes too high, too much spending, too many regulations, too many restrictions on business and industry and they all must be cut. And he took that battle over the heads of the democrat congress to the tax payers and they loved it. Sound familiar?

And in 1994, Newt Gingrich leads the charge against the democrats who had been in power for 40 years and the Republicans take the majority and Gingrich becomes Speaker. He dreams up the contract with America which was designed as an extension of the Reagan Revolution and and included items attempting to balance the budget, reform welfare, tort reform, term limits, line item veto, etc. Some of it was successfully implemented, some not. But under Gingrich they did cut the deficit and balance the budget four years running. Sound desirable? Sound progressive?

How many times in our history have you seen a liberal progressive, cut taxes, cut regulations, cut spending, cut welfare, balance the budget, block big government programs like HillaryCare, impeach a sitting president, etc?

Never! In other words, all this to say Newt is NO RINO!! He’s a pro-life, pro-small government, pro-national security, Reagan conservative!! In short, we’re desperate, and he’s exactly what we’re looking for, and he’s running head and shoulders over the rest of the field, so what the hell are we squabbling about?

Yes, Romney and Rove hate him, the Republican establishment elite ruling class hates him, the liberals hate him, the democrats hate him and they hate him for the same reasons the taxpayers will support him, the lovers of liberty will support him, the defenders of life will support him, the defenders of national security will support him, the lovers of the Reagan Revolution will support him, and we the tea party should support him!! He’s a tax cutting, budget balancing, strong defense, small government, pro-life Reagan CONSERVATIVE!!

I’ll take a chance with Newt. Over Romney? You betcha!!


11 posted on 12/09/2011 4:20:24 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Hoo-Ahh! Nicely stated Jim.


14 posted on 12/09/2011 4:24:07 AM PST by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Mitt Romney, abortionist? (do people really take you seriously?)

Newt converted to Roman Catholicism after he took up with Callista, but until 4 days ago, he wouldn’t say that life begins at conception. Why now? Oh yay, he’s still reinventing himself.


16 posted on 12/09/2011 4:26:02 AM PST by Carolyn826
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To: Jim Robinson

Excellent piece Jim that is very well thought out. I came to support Newt after thinking through a similar process. You should post it as a thread topic.


17 posted on 12/09/2011 4:26:29 AM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Well said. For me, it is hard to believe my own support for Newt. A year ago, there was no way. Newt will be a good transition to 2016 or 2020 for a Bobby Jindal or a Nikki Hayley.


27 posted on 12/09/2011 4:37:01 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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I am with you!


30 posted on 12/09/2011 4:42:02 AM PST by Dudoight
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What I don't like is—since the mainstream “conservative” media are as pro-Romney (they think he can beat Obama) as the MSM (they KNOW he can't beat Obama) there are few if any hit pieces on Mitt to post here on FR.
So in a way they force us to eat our own.
31 posted on 12/09/2011 4:42:45 AM PST by Happy Rain ("The Founders obviously anticipated Obama when they crafted the 2nd Amendment.")
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To: Jim Robinson
"I’ll take a chance with Newt. Over Romney? You betcha!!"

I agree. Like I said earlier, Noot was my congressman in Ga many many moons ago. It looks like it is his to win or loose. As my tag line suggest I want endorse him because Romney is much worse, If Romney winds up the winner, I am not sure I can hold my nose long enough to vote for him. It was very hard to do the last time voting for MCLAIM. . . .

33 posted on 12/09/2011 4:44:33 AM PST by DeaconRed (I know how to get Grinch Ginrich to drop in the poles. He will if I endorse him. All my others did)
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To: Jim Robinson

Great post JR!

Newt, in addition to being a Conservative, is a realist. He understands that a President is not a dictator - which necessitates listening to experts in science, medicine, military etc., Sadly, those experts push their own agendas.

I pray that from his experience with the Gores, Pelosis and backstabbing RINOs he will always ‘trust but verify’.

He angered his ‘colleagues’ in Congress because he pushed back; their use of the adjective ‘untrustworthy’ to describe Newt is code for ‘he didn’t roll over’.

JMHO


39 posted on 12/09/2011 4:50:37 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Gingrich - flying solo - without congressional baggage!!!)
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Jim, Rush reported (yesterday) that newt reaffirmed his support for the Individual Mandate... obamacare’s cornerstone.

LLS


40 posted on 12/09/2011 4:50:47 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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Amen, Jim.

I still can’t comprehend why Sarah ditched. I don’t know if I will ever forgive her.


43 posted on 12/09/2011 4:57:24 AM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Jim Robinson

Nice, thanks for putting into words why I have always had a soft spot for Newt even when he wasn’t always lovable.


58 posted on 12/09/2011 5:27:32 AM PST by Bassfire (Remember the Alamo!)
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I’ll take a chance with Newt. Over Romney? You betcha!!

DITTO

66 posted on 12/09/2011 5:43:11 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the Constitution, always. Allegiance to a party, never!)
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To: Jim Robinson

You nailed it


72 posted on 12/09/2011 5:52:02 AM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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pro-small government

His Red-Card-for-Legalizing-Illegals could legalize millions. And it is going to take a new level of bureaucracy to process and keep up with the Red Card program.


80 posted on 12/09/2011 6:13:31 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Jim Robinson
I also had high hopes for Perry because it looks like he’s done a great job in Texas, but his positions on the border issues turned off a lot of people. And his “heartless” statement didn’t win him much opportunity to turn that around.

So you're going to back Newt? He weaker than Perry on immigration, by far and he's going to have to answer all those flip flopping questions about his true positions on
1. Global warming (he's a believer)
2.The Newt and Nancy on the Couch shows
3.Fannie and Freddie
3.His support for an individual mandate
4.Dede Scuzzywhatever
5. His failure to maintain the support of his own party as Speaker

...and on and on and on. If he wins the nomination he's going to be skewered mercilessly by the media and when the very, very fickle American electorate hear about his record it's going to be 4 more years of obama!

89 posted on 12/09/2011 6:46:14 AM PST by pgkdan ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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BTTT!


97 posted on 12/09/2011 7:01:12 AM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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Yeah!!!


102 posted on 12/09/2011 7:12:10 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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Bulls-Eye!!


103 posted on 12/09/2011 7:12:20 AM PST by Gritty (Romney is like watching your parents do the Macarena: It's embarrassing and it's dated-Mark Steyn)
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108 posted on 12/09/2011 7:46:41 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit)
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To: Jim Robinson
I didn't know it was you when I read this post, but this line seemed like it could have been penned by me.

Well, I’ll tell you, after Palin declined to run I really didn’t have a dog in this race. I liked Bachmann and Cain a lot, even Perry, but not as much as I liked Palin. Bachmann and Cain are both conservative enough, but neither have really been tested in higher office, nor do they have much experience in world affairs.

111 posted on 12/09/2011 8:09:10 AM PST by Lazamataz (That's all.)
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