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Tea Party vs. the GOP establishment – Begging for a brokered convention…
Redstate ^ | December 5, 2011 | imperfectamerica

Posted on 12/06/2011 7:52:17 AM PST by upchuck

For much of the last three years, I, like so many others who were so despondent after the election of 2008, assumed that the election of 2012 was finally going to provide the American people with a real choice of philosophies.

On the one side you have President Obama and the progressive / fascist utopia. (Fascist in the economic sense – where private property remains, but government dictates its usage – rather than the Nazi anti-Semitic / nationalist sense.) This utopia is where government plays the role of caretaker of the nation, where government tells citizens what they can and can’t do with their property, what they must buy and where they must invest, where unions have the power to coerce both government officials and private corporations that pay their members salaries.

On the other side the Tea Party was going to make sure that for the first time in 30 years a conservative nominee would be the standard-bearer of the Republican Party. The platform would include radically smaller government, less intrusive government, and lower taxes coupled with a less complicated tax code – maybe even the Fair Tax – and a strict adherence to the 10th Amendment. Life was indeed going to be good again and prosperity would soon come roaring back.

Given the failure of everything progressive, from welfare to education to the USSR to practically the entire European continent, Americans would finally be given the choice between continuing down that well trod path to failure and a going down that forgotten path of economic liberty that was the foundation of American prosperity since the revolution.

Somehow, somewhere along the road leading to that fateful, Solomanic fork in the road, something went wrong. Not on the left. No, President Obama has indeed been as progressive as most of us feared, and in some cases far worse. Actually, the problem is on the right. Where many of us were hoping that the standard-bearer of the GOP would be a clean, if not perfect, conservative, increasingly it looks as if the nominee is going to be someone other than that.

In the one corner we have Mitt Romney who to this day refuses to renounce Romneycare, the Massachusetts disaster that spawned Obamacare. He also was an early supporter of cap and trade, was gullible on global warming, opposes a flat tax or the Fair Tax and shares an unhealthy affinity with Barack Obama for class warfare.

In the other corner we have Newt Gingrich, the guy who sat on a couch with Nancy Pelosi and told us to pressure our leaders to combat climate change. Although he finally admitted that was one of the stupidest things he ever did, there are other candidates for that title. He trashed Paul Ryan’s less than radical tax plan as “conservative social engineering”, supported the individual mandate in healthcare and now wants to harness local boards to determine which illegal immigrants should be allowed to pursue a “Path to legality”. I have to wonder how effective that might be in sanctuary cities around the country like San Francisco, Austin and Denver. As if all of that were not enough, after taking almost $2 million from Fannie & Freddie and praising their work and the GSE model itself, he now wants us to believe that the only thing he did for the money was tell them their businesses were going to fail. Really?

There are of course others in the race and they too are imperfect, but at least with Perry and Bachman you know they are true conservatives mostly dedicated to a smaller government. Unfortunately for the two of them, their campaigns barely register a pulse when it comes to the polls.

At the end of the day one has to ask, what happened to the Tea Party revolution? How is it possible that the two men leading the race for the 2012 GOP nomination are big government, crony capitalist chameleons who are far less inclined to upend the Washington applecart than work with the people driving it? Why are not the leading GOP candidates shouting from the rafters that they will radically slash government spending and regulation, that they will champion a flat tax and that they will impose a strict adherence to the Constitution, particularly the 10th Amendment?

Despite the best efforts of the media and the Democrats to paint the Tea Partiers as racist rubes and the Occupy Wall Streeters as noble sophisticates put upon by the evil capitalist system, the American people recognize the truth. The fact that the PR field is so heavily tilted towards OWS, yet citizens still have a more favorable view of the Tea Party, tells you everything the GOP needs to know about the coming election. If they would simply run a candidate who proudly articulates basic conservative principles, the next election would result in the country being freed from the tightening progressive noose around its neck. Without such a candidate, with just another standard-bearer Americans can’t distinguish from the big government GOP they’ve come to know, Barack Obama may indeed triumph.

With Gingrich and Romney sitting in the pole positions, I find myself pulling for a brokered convention that results in an opening for someone other than Frick and Frack to take the nomination. Someone like Sarah Palin, or even the forgetful but conservative Rick Perry. Sure that’s an unlikely scenario, but at this point the traditional route has brought us two paper tiger conservatives leading the pack. The Tea Partiers and the country deserve an opportunity to make a clear choice between progressivism and conservatism. Let’s hope that somehow the GOP can figure out how to give that to them. Otherwise it may be another four years of hoping for change.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: brokeredconvention; election2012; fascism; gopprimary; nationalsocialist; nazi; teaparty
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Palin chose not to get in. Cain chose to get out.

If you spend the next year trashing Republicans the left will be grateful for you.


21 posted on 12/06/2011 8:35:42 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam
If you spend the next year trashing Republicans the left will be grateful for you.

So how do we go about choosing a candidate?

We all get behind your guy and STFU?

22 posted on 12/06/2011 8:37:55 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Holding our flawed politicians to higher standards than the enemyÂ’s politicians guarantees they win)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

My guy was Herman Cain until he chose to leave the contest.

But even though he’s no longer in, that doesn’t mean I’m going to start doing the work of the leftists just because I didn’t get my first choice.


23 posted on 12/06/2011 8:44:54 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: Timber Rattler
"Next for GOP leaders: Stopping Sarah Palin"

Personally, I am convinced that there is something in her background that is not common knowledge, that she does not want to be made common knowledge. "Get out of the race, or else . . . ."

24 posted on 12/06/2011 8:46:47 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon (Spreading the Wealth, one dollar at a time)
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To: Timber Rattler
"Next for GOP leaders: Stopping Sarah Palin"

Personally, I am convinced that there is something in her background that is not common knowledge, that she does not want to be made common knowledge. "Get out of the race, or else . . . ."

25 posted on 12/06/2011 8:46:47 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon (Spreading the Wealth, one dollar at a time)
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To: rogue yam
How about we stop calling Newt "evil"...

No, Newt Gingrich is shaping up to be the lesser of two evils, and not by much. The man is a flip-flopping RINO and an opportunist who will say and do anything to get elected. He has no morals and no compunction against getting into bed with flaming liberals when it suits him. He can not be trusted, and I think that it is the height of foolishness to sweep his RINO record under the rug and to proclaim him as the savior of both the GOP and the country.

Period.

26 posted on 12/06/2011 8:47:50 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Don Corleone

That is an idea. But I doubt our poor country can survive another four years of nobama even if we control the House and the Senate.

nobamacare is the big stumbling block. No way will it be repealed with nobama in charge.


27 posted on 12/06/2011 8:53:36 AM PST by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: rogue yam
But even though he’s no longer in, that doesn’t mean I’m going to start doing the work of the leftists just because I didn’t get my first choice.

So the fact that I have had the same negative opinion of Noot for the past fifteen years means I am "doing the work of the leftists?"

Bizarre.

28 posted on 12/06/2011 8:58:09 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Holding our flawed politicians to higher standards than the enemyÂ’s politicians guarantees they win)
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To: I am Richard Brandon

I tend to doubt it. Palin’s life has been investigated probably 50-times more in-depth than any other politician out there. The LA Times and NYTimes sent an army of reporters up to Alaska, and interviewed everybody whose paths crossed Palin’s, however briefly, from grade-school to college to governorship. Hundreds and hundreds of people. They went down to the nitty-gritty, getting comments from schoolmates who shared only a single semester with her, and whose memories added up to little more than a couple of sentences. Trying to find any hint of dirt. They failed.


29 posted on 12/06/2011 9:02:14 AM PST by greene66
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To: upchuck
If the Tea Party believes they can beat the Establishment GOP at their own game in a brokered convention they are bigger fools than the media portrays them as. A brokered convention will yield Jeb Bush as Presidential nominee with a VP of Romney.

Ouch!

TS

30 posted on 12/06/2011 9:10:38 AM PST by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: Nonstatist

If Newt were to win a vast majority of the primaries, what would it took like to hand the nomination over to somebody who took it easy, sitting out the race? Especially somebody like Christy or Bush who came out and said they didn’t want to run this year.

It would be the worse move the Republicans could make.


31 posted on 12/06/2011 9:15:56 AM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: upchuck
That is an idea. But I doubt our poor country can survive another four years of nobama even if we control the House and the Senate.

nobamacare is the big stumbling block. No way will it be repealed with nobama in charge.

On the contrary, a Republican president can do nothing when the House and Senate are controlled by Democrats, which is the condition I believe we are in now.

The House can refuse to fund Obamacare anytime they want to. Of course, this would only happen if the Republicans got rid of Democrat plant, Crybaby Boehner, and bring in real, conservative leadership, but it can be done even with a Democrat or RINO president.

I believe the 2012 congressional elections are more important than the presidential election.

32 posted on 12/06/2011 9:35:49 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: upchuck

>>...At the end of the day one has to ask, what happened to the Tea Party revolution?...<<

That’s a good question. Perhaps they’ve dissipated naturally back to their lives?

After all the effort they expended in the last election, what exactly did it gain them that has made any lasting impact? There may be an overwhelming sense of “What’s the use” since the spineless, cry-baby Boehner/McConnell led contingent of the GOP is *STILL* calling the shots.

I don’t see them carrying any momentum into the next election from last time. That doesn’t mean they can’t get fired-up again and execute a repeat performance — just that I think they would have to (nearly) start from scratch again.

Just my observations and opinions. Others may vary.


33 posted on 12/06/2011 9:47:56 AM PST by jaydee770
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To: Timber Rattler
I think that it is the height of foolishness to sweep his RINO record under the rug and to proclaim him as the savior of both the GOP and the country.

Nobody is proclaiming any such thing or sweeping anything under the rug. Newt's most ardent supporters realize that he is a mixed bag of positives and negatives.

But here's the thing: absent a highly-unlikely comeback from Perry, Bachmann, or Santorum, the GOP primaries are now a two-man race.

So do you prefer Romney to Newt? What will you do if Newt wins the nomination?

If Newt is the nominee and you spend next year trashing him then your behavior will be indistinguishable from that of the evil, lying leftist scum. You will think that you are acting nobly but you will be wrong.

34 posted on 12/06/2011 9:54:05 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If you trash the GOP nominee then you are doing the work of the leftists.

That is not bizarre; it is simple, straightforward logic.


35 posted on 12/06/2011 9:56:51 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: upchuck

New tagline ...


36 posted on 12/06/2011 10:02:45 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Mitt Romney is a Republican Barack Obama. Newt Gingrich is Richard Nixon, only less trust.worthy.)
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To: rogue yam
If you trash the GOP nominee then you are doing the work of the leftists.

We don't have a nominee yet.

This is the process by which we choose a nominee.

You just want everybody to shut up and support your guy.

37 posted on 12/06/2011 10:03:56 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Holding our flawed politicians to higher standards than the enemyÂ’s politicians guarantees they win)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You say retarded things.

You do nothing but trash Republicans not because “this is the process by which we choose a nominee” but rather because you are crazy and nasty.

You fail to realize that your ugly, destructive behavior promotes leftism because you are stupid.


38 posted on 12/06/2011 10:12:50 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam
You fail to realize that your ugly, destructive behavior promotes leftism because you are stupid.

And you're so smart.

39 posted on 12/06/2011 10:15:56 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Holding our flawed politicians to higher standards than the enemyÂ’s politicians guarantees they win)
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To: rogue yam
What will you do if Newt wins the nomination?

I will write in Sarah Palin's name and then go home and sleep peacefully that night knowing that I did not hold my nose and vote for a lesser evil.

If Newt is the nominee and you spend next year trashing him then your behavior will be indistinguishable from that of the evil, lying leftist scum. You will think that you are acting nobly but you will be wrong.

I don't care. I'm done with the Republican Party. It's no better than the Rat party, and I'm not about to reward it with my vote. Period.

And I'm not the only one who feels this way either.

40 posted on 12/06/2011 10:20:10 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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