Posted on 12/01/2011 5:32:02 PM PST by presidio9
Newt Gingrich, whose GOP competitors accuse him of being soft on illegal immigration, pledged Thursday, if elected president, to build a double fence along the Mexican border during his first days in the White House.
“We haven’t been able to build a fence on the border because we have not been a serious country,” the former House speaker said at an event in Iowa, before he signed his name to the pledge sponsored by the activist group Americans for Securing the Border.
Gingrich has maintained that the border needs securing but has also suggested that some of the 11 million illegal immigrants living in the U.S. be permitted to stay in the U.S. legally. Some of his competition, including Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, has called that policy “amnesty.”
Bachmann was the first candidate, and is the only other 2012 contender to sign the pledge.
The candidates pledge “to support and speedily expedite the construction of a date-certain, secure multi-layered fence (fence locations to be specified
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Read my tag. I’m supporting Rick Perry. I made the decision to support Perry a couple weeks ago.
Hmmm, so that 32 tons of pot and elaborate underground tunnel with electric cars and lighting notwithstanding, it’s working well? Good. I guess you won’t need any boots on the ground nor Predator drones then. I’m sure that President Perry and Sheriff Joe will keep a watchful eye over San Diego nonetheless. :)
Finally someone with some sense, thank you.
Personally, I think your false outrage posts about "civility" and "name-calling" were working a little better than making stupid claims and hoping no one calls you on it.
4. Establish a Worker Visa Program.
Along with total border control, we need to make it easier for people to get work visas to enter the country legally and to work here at a specific job for a set of period of time and as long as they obey the law. We need a worker visa program that ensures that work visa holders pay taxes, get driver’s licenses, buy auto insurance, abide by the law. Such a program will also filter out criminals and potential terrorists, which is why we will require from foreign governments a continually updated list of their criminals.
Required Elements of a Worker Visa Program. As a part of this program, every work visa holder will be required to:
a. Carry a “smart card” with a photograph and bio-metric identifier, like a thumbprint and/or an embedded retinal scan that will be entered into a database so that their presence in the United States can be validated;
b. Sign an agreement in which the work visa holder agrees to pay taxes, obey the law, and waive any rights to appeal his or her removal from the United States within 72 hours for violating their agreement; and
c. Open and maintain an account at any U.S. financial institution with an American Bankers Association routing number into which employers of work visa holders will be required to electronically deposit their wages. No bank account, no smart card.
Additional Incentives for Work Visa Holders.
As we think through every aspect of a practical and enforceable legal policy on immigration and work visa holders, we must continue to be creative in crafting additional incentives that will ensure compliance with the rules of a worker visa program.
One example of a creative incentive is to require each work visa holder to establish a mandatory 10% tax free savings account drawn on a regular basis from the wages that are being deposited into the work visa holder’s required bank account. This account will have a tax free build up, which the work visa holder would be allowed to withdraw upon his or her timely return to the home country. Requiring such an account would provide an additional assurance that the work visa holder will return home on time as well as create a nest egg for the work visa holder to use to start a business or go to school back home. In the event that a work visa holder failed to return to their home country in the time period set out in their agreement, their bank account (and 10% savings account) would be frozen until such time as the work visa holder returned home.
Administrative Aspects of a Worker Visa Program.
As an administrative matter, the worker visa program smart card system will be outsourced to a company like Visa, Mastercard or American Express so people who actually know how to run a sophisticated card and computer program with expert systems for tracking fraud would be implementing the smart card program. We should have zero confidence that a federal government agency can run this program effectively. These companies can work with Kelly Services-like companies in Mexico and elsewhere to coordinate the work visa holder program and provide screening (e.g. felon check lists, other background check). Kelly Services-like companies offer staffing solutions that include temporary staffing services, staff leasing, outsourcing, vendor on-site and full-time placement and would therefore be valuable components of a worker visa program. The Vernon K. Krieble Foundation has been in the forefront of thinking through the design of such a private sector approach to managing a worker visa program that has met with widespread support.
5. Zero Tolerance for Amnesty.
As Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger put it so eloquently in a Los Angeles Times op-ed on March 28, “We can embrace the immigrant without endorsing illegal immigration. Granting citizenship to people who are here illegally is not just amnesty ... it's anarchy. We are a country of immigrants, yes. But we are also a nation of laws. People who want to be citizens will want to do it the right way.”
And doing it the right way means that all those who are currently working in the United States illegally and who wish to apply for the worker visa program must return to their home country and apply. Application for the worker visa program should not be permitted in the United States under any circumstances.
Anything less than requiring people who are working here illegally to return home to apply for a worker visa is amnesty.
Aid an illegal and loose your shirt to fines and your freedom to a prison cell. Along WITH a greatly stepped up presence along the border, you`re HONESTLY saying that won`t work? REALLY?
It all depends on the size and length of fence.
Do your own research if you please. I stand by the statement that a large percentage of illegals work as independant contractors to individuals. Add in the ones working for very small business, and yes, it is approaching a majority of all illegals immigrants in this country. Find something that proves otherwise, and I will revise that opinion. But this entire exercise is irrelevant, because either way, we are still talking about millions and millions of individuals. And, no, there is no political will in this country for going after indivuals who hire illegal maids and such, even if such a thing was feasible.
What you really need to do is get back to the original point. Since all of the Republicans seem to want to seal the borders (pick your method), and enforce the laws, it comes down to will they all leave when we do. Newt seems to expect most of them to do just that. He's talking about what we would do with those who don't.
Did you not read your own cited report? I read several pages and it sounds just like what he is saying now. Some of it is exactly the same language. A very in depth report.
Thank you for citing it. It verifies that Newt is NOT a flip flopper.
Then you base your statement on supposition. So much for your argument.
Tell me you love me. Whisper those sweet nothings in my ear. At least until the morning...
Newt will put troops on the border - maybe as many as 23,000 pulled out of “National Security” - let them do some honest work.
ahaha, I just got an idea - deep six the TSA at the airports and shuffle them all down to the border. Well, on further thought, shuffle ‘em ACROSS the border.
Newt on the border - His FIRST move: CLOSE THE BORDER.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9JxGh4-SpA
President: Newt
VP: Col West
Energy Sec: Palin
AG: Giuliani
UN attack dog: Bolton
that my dream
San Diego...I get it now.
It seems that anything short of sending them all back is amnesty to you. I'll expect a significant and successful effort from Newt to close the border before any "amnesty" is put in the works.
At the front lines would you accept a highly secure border by 2014 followed by a practical plan to deal with the 20 million illegals if could be made to happen??
You remark: “Would Newt cave the first time a marxist federal judge “stays” the fence building for whatever reason?”
I think the marxist judges are going to be the ones folding - or folded.
NEWT ON JUDGES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V4vFArOtQo
Anything less than requiring people who are working here illegally to return home to apply for a worker visa is amnesty.
~Newt Gingrich 4/26/2006
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2815022/posts?page=22#22
I for one am tired of being threatened with zots by folks who can't deliver them but seem to have a peculiar delight in calling for them
JR may indeed prefer others before Newt..I think that is likely true for any Newt supporter here...I know it is for me...see tagline.
But it is not a zot offense.
I feel better, I ain't gonna lie.
Rubio, beloved here does not.
Gingrich said every state should have laws like those Alabama, Arizona and South Carolina have enacted that aim to curb undocumented immigration by allowing the questioning of individuals suspected of being undocumented immigrants.
Here’s another stance on judges by Newt -
instead of leaning on your own uniformed opinion - why not listen to Newt says himself - so her’s a SECOND clip on judges, 2009 - start watching at minute marker 4:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtjfMjjce2Y
You've been supporting RINO Rick for months. What you mean is you just recently decided to admit it.
Hmmm, so that 32 tons of pot and elaborate underground tunnel with electric cars and lighting notwithstanding, it’s working well?
I know you support pro-ILLEGAL alien candidate RINO Rick and I know you are willing to deny and/or denounce any and everything positive when it comes to the idea of a fence. But you should at least get informed.
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Before the fence was built, all that separated that stretch of Mexico from California was a single strand of cable that demarcated the international border.
Back then, Border Patrol agent Jim Henry says he was overwhelmed by the stream of immigrants who crossed into the United States illegally just in that sector.
"It was an area that was out of control," Henry says. "There were over 100,000 aliens crossing through this area a year." Today, Henry is assistant chief of the Border Patrol's San Diego sector. He says apprehensions here are down 95 percent, from 100,000 a year to 5,000 a year, largely because the single strand of cable marking the border was replaced by double — and in some places, triple — fencing.
San Diego Fence Provides Lessons in Border Control
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You do know the difference between 95% and 100%, don't you Quick?
Newt’s damned if he does, and damned if he doesn’t.
But his numbers keep on rising. “;^)
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