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Thomas Sowell On Gingrich And Immigration
IBD Editorial ^ | November 28, 2011 | The great THOMAS SOWELL

Posted on 11/28/2011 3:51:13 PM PST by Kaslin

Now that Newt Gingrich has become the latest in a series of Republican front-runners, he is getting the kinds of scrutiny and attacks that have done in other front-runners.

One of the issues that have aroused concern among conservative Republicans is that of amnesty for illegal immigrants, especially after Gingrich said that it would not be "humane" to deport someone who has been living and working here for years.

Let's go back to square one. The purpose of American immigration laws and policies is not to be either humane or inhumane to illegal immigrants. The purpose of immigration laws and policies is to serve the national interest of this country.

There is no inherent right to come live in the United States, in disregard of whether the American people want you here. Nor does the passage of time confer any such right retroactively.

The usually sober and thoughtful Wall Street Journal, on issues other than immigration, outdoes Newt Gingrich's claim that it would not be "humane" to deport illegal immigrants who have been living here a long time. A Wall Street Journal editorial says that it would be "psychotic" to do so.

"No one honestly believes the government should or will mount a nationwide manhunt to deport millions of people," according to the Wall Street Journal.

What we have today is virtually the opposite of that. Cities that openly proclaim themselves "sanctuaries" for illegal immigrants put their own policemen under strict orders not to report illegal immigrants to the federal authorities, with the result that illegal immigrants who have committed crime after crime are free to stay here and commit more crimes, including murder.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; reevaluategingrich; sowell; thomassowell
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1 posted on 11/28/2011 3:51:15 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: jazusamo

Ping


2 posted on 11/28/2011 3:52:00 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Kinda sounds like Dr. Sowell is in Newt’s corner. Can’t agree with him on that one. Newt’s a sprayed fly. You never know where he’s gonna land on a particular issue.


3 posted on 11/28/2011 3:59:43 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Kaslin

Perry and Newt are the only amnesty activists running for president on gop side. They clearly and strongly believe in amnesty.

It is not humane to vote either one.

Bachman was impressive in foreign policy debate. Santorum is credible too. We do not have to pick amnesty activist. I was ready to forgive newt’s history of global warming, gun grabbing, serial adultery and bashing conservatives. But amnesty is deal breaker.


4 posted on 11/28/2011 4:01:06 PM PST by heiss (heartless)
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To: Kaslin
But what the voters have to overcome is an insistence on a perfect candidate. Ronald Reagan, after all, supported an immigrant amnesty bill, but that did not prevent him from being a great president otherwise.

A Republican Congress would be unlikely to make that mistake again, even if a Republican president wanted to. The big question for 2012 is whether Republicans will win Congress and/or the White House. If Democrats win Congress and the White House in 2012, amnesty is virtually certain, along with other disasters.

The only consideration anti-amnesty voters should have is the removal of Obama from office, and who can beat him. Any of the R field will be light years better on the subject.

5 posted on 11/28/2011 4:07:01 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: Kaslin
No one honestly believes the government should or will mount a nationwide manhunt to deport millions of people...

Wrong again WSJ - I do believe the government should do exactly that. WSJ, do not attempt to speak for me, ever.

6 posted on 11/28/2011 4:07:48 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

I don’t think you read the entire column.


7 posted on 11/28/2011 4:12:40 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: heiss
They clearly and strongly believe in amnesty.

Newt did not propose amnesty! Try reading again what Newt did said and maybe you might understand.

8 posted on 11/28/2011 4:18:26 PM PST by Logical me
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To: Scotsman will be Free

Doesn’t sound to me like Sowell is in Newt’s corner at all.


9 posted on 11/28/2011 4:20:49 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Logical me

Newt has openly advocated for “limited amnesty”. Now he calls for legalization of illegals.

Newtcritters are getting desperate, but outright lies will not be tolerated here.


10 posted on 11/28/2011 4:21:38 PM PST by heiss (heartless)
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To: Scotsman will be Free; Kaslin

After reading the article I find it difficult where Sowell agrees or disagrees with the Gingrich propsal specifically. This is a first for me: I am having a hard time understanding what point Dr. Sowell is making, unless he is taking issue with the unfortunate use of the word “ihumane.”


11 posted on 11/28/2011 4:28:16 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Kaslin

All the talk about Gingrich and how smart he is.

But next to Sowell, Gingrich doesn’t look very smart at all.


12 posted on 11/28/2011 4:32:16 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately---reason serves faith. (See W.L. Craig, and many others.))
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To: ez

Excellent point


13 posted on 11/28/2011 4:32:55 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: heiss

Amnesty is the growth hormone of government.


14 posted on 11/28/2011 4:33:50 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Logical me
Newt did not propose amnesty! Try reading again what Newt did said and maybe you might understand.

What Newt proposes is to close the borders,secure them, enforce the laws and when this happens by and large most of the "Illegals" will self-deport as they did during the Eisenhower administration when he applied the same principles. No one believes that we can "Deport" 12 to 20 million people. The ones that are deported should be taken deep into Mexico to make it tough for them to try again. The big problem on the border now is and will continue to be the Drug Cartels...financed and supported by the Obama administration in a further attempt to emasculate this nation.

15 posted on 11/28/2011 4:36:51 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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Thanks for the ping, Kas. Sorry for the delay, I'm busier than a one legged man at a jitterbug contest. :-)

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16 posted on 11/28/2011 4:43:07 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Kaslin

I’d hold my nose for Gingrich...but not for Romney.


17 posted on 11/28/2011 4:44:27 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Kaslin

I’d hold my nose for Gingrich...but not for Romney.


18 posted on 11/28/2011 4:44:43 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Kaslin
There is no inherent right to come live in the United States, in disregard of whether the American people want you here. Nor does the passage of time confer any such right retroactively.

Great article.

The problem is we conservatives keep talking about amnesty first when we should be talking about the unfathomable -- and often court mandated -- policies that keep us from enforcing immigration law.

If someone wants to keep some sort of limited amnesty card in his hand to play at the right time to smooth the way to a solution, fine. We keep insisting on playing it first, however, before the real problem is addressed.

19 posted on 11/28/2011 4:54:38 PM PST by Tribune7 (Perry, Newt, Cain or Santorum)
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To: Logical me

Your dreaming. The Newt critics here are not interested in facts. They are quite satisfied with their opinions.


20 posted on 11/28/2011 4:55:28 PM PST by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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