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Live Thread: Republican Presidential Debate on National Security 8 P.M. EST 11/22/11 on CNN
Tuesday, November 22, 2011 | Kristinn

Posted on 11/22/2011 3:37:12 PM PST by kristinn

Hosted by the Heritage Foundation and the American Enterprise Institute, the theme of tonight's Republican presidential debate is foreign policy and national security.

The debate is being held at Constitution Hall in Washington, D.C.

CNN is carrying the debate live at 8 p.m. EST.

Participating candidates are: businessman Herman Cain, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, former Speaker Newt Gingrich, Reps. Ron Paul (TX) and Michele Bachmann (MN), former Gov. Jon Huntsman, and former Sen. Rick Santorum.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012debates; 2012gopdebate; bachmann; cain; cnngopdebate; debate; elections; gingrich; gop; gopdebate; gopsecuritydebate; huntsman; nationalsecurity; nationsecurity; paul; perry; romney; ronpaul; santorum
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To: Will88
We have a situation where illegal Mexicans go to the front of the line here.

Remember, Perry is AGAINST THAT.

1,821 posted on 11/22/2011 9:28:04 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: RitaOK
You never mentioned before that you were married to an illegal alien and had one or more of his anchor babies.

Cheers!

1,822 posted on 11/22/2011 9:28:44 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: gardencatz

check under breaking news for the threads


1,823 posted on 11/22/2011 9:28:47 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: CainConservative

Never heard of them.


1,824 posted on 11/22/2011 9:29:09 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

I think Rick Perry is also a generally nice guy. From the quick marshalling of the DNC.media attack goons toward Rick, I would guess the democrats a while ago saw Rick Perry as a threat to their little barry and that’s why Obama and his toilet czars have been trying everything they can do to make life harder in Texas under Governor Perry. I don’t doubt that Rick or Herman or Michelle or Rick Snatorum or Newt could step into the WHite House and bring America back from the brink. But I happen to believe Newt Gingrich has the most detailed and far reaching plan to restore America and in the process cause the democrat socialist paradigm to become something obscene to American voters. Clearly the democrats want America to be transformed into a European Socialist model nation. It is a nightmare for which they need to be thoroughly rejected, permanently. The scum in the streets of our cities are there because democrats want the vermin ‘in our face’.


1,825 posted on 11/22/2011 9:29:49 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: BCrago66
Is there electrical activity in your future?

Starting off with ad hominem based on supposed lack of intellect -- against someone with a math background, at that !! -- is a common tell of being a flaming lib...

Cheers!

1,826 posted on 11/22/2011 9:31:04 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers; RitaOK

Not cool. You can do better than that.


1,827 posted on 11/22/2011 9:31:40 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: Will88

Did you happen to watch the deabte tonight? were you out for a beer when Newt explained why the 1986 legislation did not work?


1,828 posted on 11/22/2011 9:32:06 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: tennmountainman

I was just thinking, if abortion hadn’t been legalized we would have what, 55 million more citizens from the age of 38 to newborn. The immigrant job issue to me is a non-issue. The illegal immigrant issue is to vet them and either deport or legalize.


1,829 posted on 11/22/2011 9:32:07 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: MHGinTN

Perry is really locking down on the Border.

He is the ONLY one that recognizes that we have tons of OTM (other than Mexicans) crossing the border.

Iran, Iraq, China


1,830 posted on 11/22/2011 9:34:05 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: over3Owithabrain; Yaelle
But then Cain is a bumbling idiot what does he know compared to the hit squads here who treat facts like genital warts.

VERY telling comparison, given Perry's opinion on Gardasil...

Cheers!

1,831 posted on 11/22/2011 9:35:46 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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Iran, Iraq, China

The Feds give them political asylum.

1,832 posted on 11/22/2011 9:35:56 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: OneVike

“Newt understands the mindset of Americans, and when it comes down to it, the election against Obama will also be against the MSM’s ability to formulate the debate.”

Since you think you’ll get flamed, let me say that I agree with your statements. See, I think both Newt AND Herman would do well with most Americans, and wouldn’t a ticket having both of them be something for BHO/Biden to contend with? I’d love it - they’d have all the bases covered and I really think they’d win.


1,833 posted on 11/22/2011 9:36:15 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: MHGinTN
Did you happen to watch the deabte tonight? were you out for a beer when Newt explained why the 1986 legislation did not work?

Lol, I know why it didn't work and need no explanations form Newt. But apparently you did need the explanation.

1,834 posted on 11/22/2011 9:36:25 PM PST by Will88 (N)
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To: caww

If we make voters out of th the majority of illegals who are here we might as well kiss our country goodbye.


1,835 posted on 11/22/2011 9:36:25 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: antceecee

Maybe I should report you to the quartermaster for a flogging of indeterminate means. Phhhtttt


1,836 posted on 11/22/2011 9:36:39 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: grey_whiskers

All Perry did was try to reduce Texas tax costs by addressing a social problem without forcing anyone to pay.

He stated that the mandate was issue.
I don’t think it was.

It wasn’t a mandate in the true sense of the word.


1,837 posted on 11/22/2011 9:40:00 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TitansAFC

A temporary worker program is not amnesty. Nor is a temporary worker necessarily an ILLEGAL immigrant. Unless he said for those who are living and working here illegally then you can’t make that leap. I know people working here on a temporary work VISA. Even when their company helps them get an extension the hoops they have to jump through are ridiculous. Meanwhile those disobeying the law are getting special protection. Why should people doing it the right way be punished? If you can find where he specified these people he’s talking about are ILLEGAL can you please provide a link to the quote?

As for a “program other than amnesty” for making them legal, that could mean sending them home and making them come in the right way. It could mean putting the onus (especially financial penalties) on employers who hire and don’t report illegals. Other than amnesty means they can’t stay, unless I’m misunderstanding the word. If they’re continually kicked out (hopefully that won’t be such a huge problem when we have a fence) getting here becomes a bigger financial burden than coming in the front door. Eliminating sanctuary cities and empowering states could also be a powerful incentive for coming in the front door. The harder it is for them to be here, no government help or services, no jobs would certainly work as a way to “help” them become legal. Again, if you have a specific quote from him about an amnesty plan could post a link to it?

Cindie


1,838 posted on 11/22/2011 9:40:52 PM PST by gardencatz (I'm lucky enough to live, walk & breathe among heroes! I am the mother of a US Marine!)
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To: 9YearLurker

Perry passed voter ID

Who else has?


1,839 posted on 11/22/2011 9:41:49 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

He was indeed. And probably because he has first-hand experience with these other nationalities getting caught in Texas.


1,840 posted on 11/22/2011 9:43:34 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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