Posted on 11/19/2011 11:23:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Shortly before the Supreme Court agreed to rule on the constitutionality of Obamacares individual mandate, a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit affirmed its constitutionality. Writing for the majority, Judge Laurence H. Silberman, a Reagan appointee, brusquely acknowledged that upholding the mandate means there is no limit to Congresss powers under the Commerce Clause. Fortunately, Silbermans stark assertion may strengthen the counterargument. Silberman forces the Supreme Courts five conservatives to face the sobering implications of affirming the power asserted with the mandate.
Does Congresss enumerated power to regulate interstate commerce empower it to compel individuals, as a condition of living in the United States, to engage in a commercial activity? If any activity, or inactivity, can be said to have economic consequences, can it be regulated or required by Congress? Can Congress forbid the inactivity of not purchasing a product (health insurance) from a private provider? Silberman says yes:
We acknowledge some discomfort with the governments failure to advance any clear doctrinal principles limiting congressional mandates that any American purchase any product or service in interstate commerce. But to tell the truth, those limits are not apparent to us, either because the power to require the entry into commerce is symmetrical with the power to prohibit or condition commercial behavior, or because we have not yet perceived a qualitative limitation. That difficulty is troubling, but not fatal, not least because we are interpreting the scope of a long-established constitutional power, not recognizing a new constitutional right.(continued)
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"Until the people have, by some solemn and authoritative act, annulled or changed the established form, it is binding upon them collectively, as well as individually; and no presumption or even knowledge of their sentiments, can warrant their representatives [the executive, judiciary, or legislature]; in a departure from it prior to such an act." - Alexander Hamilton In the first of the eighty-five "Federalist Papers," Alexander Hamilton emphasized that:
The Framers knew that the passage of time would surely disclose imperfections or inadequacies in the Constitution, but these were to be repaired or remedied by formal amendment, not by legislative action or judicial construction (or reconstruction). Hamilton (in The Federalist No. 78) was emphatic about this:
The Congress, unlike the British Parliament, was not given final authority over the Constitution, which partly explains why the judicial authority was lodged in a separate and independent branch of government. In Britain the supreme judicial authority is exercised by a committee of the House of Lords, which is appropriate in a system of parliamentary supremacy, but, although it was suggested they do so, the Framers refused to follow the British example. The American system is one of constitutional supremacy, which means that sovereignty resides in the people, not in the King-in-Parliament; and the idea that the Constitution may be changed by an act of the legislature--even an act subsequently authorized by the judiciary--is simply incompatible with the natural right of the people to determine how (and even whether) they shall be governed. Unlike in Britain where, formally at least, the queen rules by the grace of God (Dei gratia regina), American government rests on the consent of the people; and, according to natural right, the consent must be given formally. In fact, it must be given in a written compact entered into by the people. Here is Madison on the compacts underlying American government:
Neither civil society (or as Madison puts it, "the people in their social state') nor government exists by nature. By nature everyone is sovereign with respect to himself, free to do whatever in his judgment is necessary to preserve his own life - or, in the words of the Declaration of Independence, everyone is endowed by nature with the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of a happiness that he defines for himself. Civil society is an artificial person (constituted by the first of the compacts), and it is civil society that institutes and empowers government. So it was that they became "the People of the United States" in 1776 and, in 1787-88, WE, THE PEOPLE ordained and established "this Constitution for the United States of America." In this formal compact THE PEOPLE specified the terms and conditions under which "ourselves and posterity," would be governed: granting some powers and withholding others, and organizing the powers granted with a view to preventing their misuse by the legislative, the executive, and the judicial branches alike. WE THE PEOPLE were authorized by natural right to do this, and were authorized to act on behalf of posterity only insofar as the rights of posterity to change those terms and conditions were respected. This was accomplished in Article V of the Constitution, the amending article, which prescribed the forms to be followed when exercising that power in the future.
The Framers had designed a constitutional structure for a government which would be limited by that structure - by the distribution of power into distinct departments, a system of legislative balances and checks, an independent judiciary, a system of representation, and an enlargement of the orbit "within which such systems are to revolve" And to the judges they assigned the duty, as "faithful guardians of the Constitution," to preserve the integrity of the structure, for it is by the structure (more than by "parchment barriers") that the government is limited. It would he only a slight exaggeration to say that, in the judgment of the Founders, the Constitution would "live" as long as that structure was preserved. The Enduring American ConstitutionNow, almost 200 years later, one can read Hamilton's words in Federalist No. 1 and conclude that, under some conditions, some "societies of men" are capable of "establishing good government," but that most are not. This is not for lack of trying; on the contrary, constitutions are being written all the time - of some 164 countries in the world, all but a small handful (seven by the latest count) have written constitutions - but most of them are not long-lived. In September 1983, the American Enterprise Institute sponsored an international conference on constitution writing at the Supreme Court of the United States; some twenty-odd countries were represented. With the exception of the Americans, the persons present had themselves played a role - in some cases a major role - in the writing of their countries' constitutions, most of them written since 1970. Only the constitution of the French Fifth Republic predated 1970; and the Nigerian, so ably discussed and defended at the 1983 conference by one of its own Framers, had subsequently been subverted, much as the four previous French republican constitutions had been subverted. It would seem that many peoples are experienced in the writing of constitutions, but only a few of them - conspicuous among these the people of America - have an experience of stable constitutional government. In that sense, we surely have "a living Constitution." That is not, however, the sense in which the term is ordinarily used in the literature of constitutional law as shall be explored herein. Treating The Constitution As
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“Lincoln killed the Old Republic 1787-1861.”
There never was an “Old Republic”. President Washington invaded Pennsylvania in 1794 to enforce federal tax laws and put people out of business who refused to pay. Clearly, President Washington did not accept secession as a state’s right like you do. You favorite tyrant Lincoln was simply following the precident set by our first commander in chief. The republican utopia that you think we had never existed.
Whether the Old Republic existed or not has been rendered moot, we do not live in a republic now. Certainly whatever vestige of a true republic that existed ante bellum was snuffed out by the Goon from Illinois. The 17th amendment was the coupe de grace.
How about “All enumerated powers of the Congress of the United States under this Constitution and any Amendments thereto shall be narrowly construed. All prohibitions placed on the Congress of the United States shall be broadly construed. In particular, the authority granted to Congress to regulate commerce between the several states, Indian tribe and with foreign nations, shall not be construed to permit the regulation of any activity which is not itself commerce crossing state lines, the borders of the United States or the borders of areas under the sovereignty of Indian tribe merely on the plea that it affects such commerce. Upon ratification of this amendment any citizen shall have standing with the courts to challenge the Constitutionality of any statute on the basis that it fails to meet the narrow construal provision regarding enumerated powers, violates the broad construal of prohibitions, or had previously been upheld as Constitutional by the courts only on the basis that it regulated an activity which affected interstate commerce. All criminal convictions or civil forfeitures to the United States based on violation of laws found to be unconstitutional under the terms of this amendment shall be vacated immediately upon such finding.”
Yeah, I know, the drug warriors will all be upset since it will limit the feds to prohibiting importation or transportation of “controlled substances” across state lines, but that’s all they should have been able to do in the first place.
Thank you for your kind words, Diamond. I did have an error is the line above. The context of the entire post set it right, but just to be clear, I meant to say:
"any definition of "commerce" that applies to the second, MUST also apply to the first, foreign nations."
I should proof read a bit better.
It’s getting ripped. I’m not so sure it will rest in peace.
That third (presumably you mean Americans on some kind of welfare) is mostly tucked into what, maybe ten screamingly blue states?
The Con-con is one place where Wyoming will count as much as California.
You mean Directive 10-289:
http://radio-weblogs.com/0104693/stories/2002/11/17/directive10289.html
>Shooting them would be quicker but voting them out is our last resort, our final chance to enact change legally.
Not so. Even the US Code recognizes the Declaration of Independence as law. ( http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/organiclaws.txt )
And, according to the aforementioned LAW:
“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
How can it be illegal to do what the law demands as our DUTY?
If this is upheld then there should be open revolt.
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LOL! Right, I’m sure that will happen. If it does it will be 50-75 people with signs that meet in DC for one day. Now it’s the same day American Idol or Dancing with the Stars is on, don’t count on more than 20-25.
If this is upheld then there should be open revolt.
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LOL! Right, I’m sure that will happen. If it does it will be 50-75 people with signs that meet in DC for one day. Now if it’s the same day American Idol or Dancing with the Stars is on, don’t count on more than 20-25.
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