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1 posted on 11/19/2011 7:26:38 PM PST by Clive
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2 posted on 11/19/2011 7:27:31 PM PST by Clive
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If anyone knows the author of this piece, please let me know as I’d like to give him or her credit.

Screw that -- I'd like to buy them a drink!

Cheers!

3 posted on 11/19/2011 7:38:44 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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BTW, is it any coincidence that on many websites (including FR), whenever the weekly unemployment numbers are announced as "unexpected," that a clarion call of responses immediately cries out, "DRINK!" ?

Cheers!

4 posted on 11/19/2011 7:39:49 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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Fortunately, though, the bank, brokerage houses and their respective executives are saved and bailed out by a multibillion dollar, no-strings attached cash infusion from the government.

Fortunately, they repaid the loans from TARP at a profit to the Treasury.

5 posted on 11/19/2011 7:40:34 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Clive
something similar but in this case we are the hotel that loses out...

It is a slow day in the small Minnesota town of Marshall , and streets are deserted. Times are tough, everybody is in debt, and everybody is living on credit.

A rich tourist visiting the area drives through town, stops at the hotel, and lays a $100 bill on the desk saying he wants to inspect the rooms upstairs to pick one for the night.

As soon as he walks upstairs, the hotel owner grabs the bill and runs next door to pay his debt to the butcher.

The butcher takes the $100 and runs down the street to retire his debt to the pig farmer.

The pig farmer takes the $100 and heads off to pay his bill to his supplier, the Farmer's Co-op.

The guy at the Farmer's Co-op takes the $100 and runs to pay his debt to the local prostitute, who has also been facing hard times and has had to offer her "services" on credit.

The hooker rushes to the hotel and pays off her room bill with the hotel owner.

The hotel proprietor then places the $100 back on the counter so the rich traveler will not suspect anything.

At that moment the traveler comes down the stairs, states that the rooms are not satisfactory, picks up the $100 bill and leaves town.

No one produced anything. No one earned anything... However, the whole town is now out of debt and now looks to the future with a lot more optimism.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how the United States government is conducting business today.

6 posted on 11/19/2011 7:49:00 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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If you can believe this, I received that article a week ago in an email from my contact in India! I forwarded it to all my contacts here in US.


7 posted on 11/19/2011 7:49:11 PM PST by federal__reserve (What matters in 2012 is jobs, jobs, jobs! Jobs kill unemployment, foreclosures & deficits)
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Here we go again. If the bankers did not load up mortgage backed securities with liar loans and rated them AAA paper when they were actually junk we could have survived the subprime meltdown. The first 18 months most of the failure in mortgage notes involved subprime mortgages. Mathematically the US financial system can survive the hit because subprime mortgages are clearly flagged before the investor buys them. The concept of subprime is economically stupid and time proved it because more then 1/3 defaulted and the taxpayer was on the hook for the losses. The coup de grace was the liar loans collapsed after the subprime. Here the losses were much larger because the investors paid higher prices for them because he thought they were AAA investments. Even worst the buyers used leveraged money to buy them. Derivatives were based on AAA odds of failure not junk odds. That makes a major difference in price and the cost of failure. We took a serious hit with subprime but we took a more severe hit from the liar loans. The gov CRA policy encouraged subprime, but never liar loans. That was invented by greedy bankers when they discovered that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were not reviewing the mortgage notes they were buying from the bankers and mortgage companies.


8 posted on 11/19/2011 7:58:44 PM PST by Fee
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The story leaves out the part where Heidi’s bank is threatened by the federal government to find a way to market the debt.


12 posted on 11/19/2011 8:08:29 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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Nevertheless, the bond prices continuously climb and the securities soon become the hottest-selling items for some of the nation’s leading brokerage houses...one little piece missing - Sam, the local bookie, knows about these bonds and that they're all based on the shaky business of Heidi's bar - so he lets it known on the street that he's willing to bet all comers that these bonds will be worthless in three years (credit default swaps) - the word gets around and a lot of the local businessmen, also aware of the bonds and how fast they're growing in value, take Sam's bet for money they don't have in case they lose, because they think they can't lose (AIG, etc etc) - eventually the bonds collapse in value and even more businesses than those in the original example go under after being liquidated to pay off some of what they owe...but Sam lives happily, or at least in riches, ever after......
15 posted on 11/19/2011 9:08:53 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Clive

Great post... thanks.


19 posted on 11/19/2011 9:29:39 PM PST by GOPJ ( Democrats are the only reason to vote for Republicans.... Will Rogers)
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To: Clive

Foster Brooks shoulda told this story - too bad he died ...

20 posted on 11/19/2011 9:29:58 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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THIS was great! I am going to use this example.


21 posted on 11/19/2011 10:07:34 PM PST by Volunteer (Though I know that the hypnotized never lie, do ya? - The Who)
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They left out the roll of IGA that we bailed out.


24 posted on 11/19/2011 11:31:18 PM PST by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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Hell of a lot of truth here, send a thank you not to Phil Gramm.
26 posted on 11/20/2011 12:32:09 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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