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Ensuring Romney's Defeat
Vanity | 11-14-11 | Antoninus

Posted on 11/14/2011 5:52:10 PM PST by Antoninus

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To: etradervic
At the risk of being flamed at the stake, I think that there is way too much energy spent on being anti-Romney. It would best directed by being for someone or being anti-democrat.

Obviously being hateful and nasty attracts very few people to a cause. Hating and name calling are not the tactics employed by good people, or intelligent people fot that matter.

21 posted on 11/14/2011 7:20:13 PM PST by Zevonismymuse
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To: Antoninus

Romney WSJ Nov 11

great 3 1/2 minute video Romney 2005

http://online.wsj.com/video/mitt-romneys-changeable-views-date-back-to-2005/C395B69C-C682-4B04-961C-070D9B5B7958.html?KEYWORDS=Romney

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204505304577004352121240264.html?KEYWORDS=Romney


22 posted on 11/14/2011 7:29:19 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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23 posted on 11/14/2011 7:37:54 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: Antoninus

Romney is not all that much better than BO.


24 posted on 11/14/2011 8:22:51 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: scooby321
He is almost a gaffe machine plus the Women problem.

Oh please. The media can turn anyone into a gaffe machine if they so desire. Cain's so-called "offenses" in this regard are laughably pedestrian.


25 posted on 11/14/2011 8:37:32 PM PST by Antoninus (Take the pledge: I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. EVER.)
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To: TBP
Romney is not all that much better than BO.

He's not, which is why we need to defeat him early in the primaries to give the eventual candidate the maximum amount of time and resources to defeat Obama.

Fail to do that and we'll be in a difficult if not impossible situation in 2012. That's why I'm calling for some serious activism against Romney.
26 posted on 11/14/2011 8:40:27 PM PST by Antoninus (Take the pledge: I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. EVER.)
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To: Zevonismymuse
Obviously being hateful and nasty attracts very few people to a cause. Hating and name calling are not the tactics employed by good people, or intelligent people fot that matter.

Really? Other than the people claiming that Herman Cain is a womanizer, who is doing that, exactly?
27 posted on 11/14/2011 8:41:16 PM PST by Antoninus (Take the pledge: I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. EVER.)
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To: Antoninus
Step 2: After the first primaries, conservatives must coalesce around one candidate. I am currently a Santorum supporter. However, if Rick finishes outside the top three any of the first three primaries, I will transfer my support to the most formidable non-Romney Republican. It is important that many people agree to do this and then be VERY vocal about it. The only way Romney can win this is if the conservative vote remains split for too long. If we unite, he can't win. Period.

I think it all boils down to this. After IA, NH, NV, SC and FL have voted then there will be at least a couple of conservative candidates who have not finished in the top three in any of these primaries. It will then be time for conservatives supporting these also-rans to re-direct their support to one of the conservative front-runners.

28 posted on 11/14/2011 8:45:08 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam
I think it all boils down to this. After IA, NH, NV, SC and FL have voted then there will be at least a couple of conservative candidates who have not finished in the top three in any of these primaries. It will then be time for conservatives supporting these also-rans to re-direct their support to one of the conservative front-runners.

Indeed. But before we get to that point, the media will attempt to create a critical mass for Romney. We must not allow that to happen which is why we need a small army of volunteers out there getting information out to conservatives about Romney's liberal record.

Step 1 is critical.
29 posted on 11/14/2011 8:47:30 PM PST by Antoninus (Take the pledge: I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. EVER.)
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To: Antoninus

i respectfully object to the strategy.

If Mitt is not defeated early (IA & SC primarily), then he wins. So the important anti-Mitt activity needs to be focused on those 2 states.

50 of the 99 IA counties will have fewer than 1000 caucus attendees. If ya can find 50 people to get a pre-pay cell with an IA phone number and do the calling ... that one project alone will have a big impact.

100,000 is the caucus attendee total in IA. When the show gets to FLA, too many voters (2 million) ... not possible for grassroots stuff to have an impact.


30 posted on 11/14/2011 8:58:39 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (I will go back to New Hampshire to campaign.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
If Mitt is not defeated early (IA & SC primarily), then he wins. So the important anti-Mitt activity needs to be focused on those 2 states.

I don't disagree. I am running on the assumption that he will lose both of those caucus/primaries and win in New Hampshire.

50 of the 99 IA counties will have fewer than 1000 caucus attendees. If ya can find 50 people to get a pre-pay cell with an IA phone number and do the calling ... that one project alone will have a big impact.

Well, then by all means, do that.

100,000 is the caucus attendee total in IA. When the show gets to FLA, too many voters (2 million) ... not possible for grassroots stuff to have an impact.

I completely disagree. If we start now, the effort can snowball quickly. That's the beauty of social media. You can get 1,000,000 eyeballs on a compelling video quickly with the right network and the right strategy. That's what this is aiming for. The trick is finding people who are actually willing to do it, not just talk about doing it.
31 posted on 11/14/2011 9:18:08 PM PST by Antoninus (Take the pledge: I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. EVER.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
100,000 is the caucus attendee total in IA. When the show gets to FLA, too many voters (2 million) ... not possible for grassroots stuff to have an impact.

Your view of this is almost the opposite of mine. Mitt will have a small but highly-motivated group of ground operatives in every state. I think this will be more effective in IA than in FL. In FL what is needed are tens of thousands of individuals each talking to people they know or live near. That is grassroots politics and that is what we conservatives will have to use to defeat Mitt.

32 posted on 11/14/2011 9:25:31 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: All; Antoninus

“..one of the biggest liabilities of Mitt Romney’s health care law in Massachusetts: the fact that health-insurance premiums in Massachusetts have skyrocketed since the law was put into place..”

snip http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2011/10/27/romneycare-official-i-would-never-try-to-reduce-health-costs/


33 posted on 11/14/2011 11:38:53 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun

Good article. Thanks. Let me see if I can find the FR link.


34 posted on 11/15/2011 7:25:31 AM PST by Antoninus (Take the pledge: I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. EVER.)
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To: 007girl; 230FMJ; abigailsmybaby; absolootezer0; afnamvet; Afronaut; airborne; ajolympian2004; ...

Pinging the old Duncan Hunter list to see if there’s any interest from you folks in putting this strategy into effect.


35 posted on 11/15/2011 10:30:40 AM PST by Antoninus (Take the pledge: I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. EVER.)
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To: Antoninus

I appreciate your ideas and your determination to sink Romney at eh polls.

All anyone of us need do is read: “Can Mitt Romney Serve Two Masters?” by Tricia Erickson. Not only does she, the daughter of a Mormon Bishop, who has left the church to become a Christian, give a very comprehensive history of the Mormon Church, she delieveers a complete history of Romney’s political and pre-political careers.

I manage to avoid “FWD” by cutting and pasting with my own subject typed in. I think most people read my emails.

just a couple of important suggestions. Let’s go get ‘im, folks! They are really pushing Romney now.


36 posted on 11/15/2011 10:49:54 AM PST by Paperdoll (II like Herman Cain)
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To: Antoninus

I’m in.


37 posted on 11/15/2011 11:13:21 AM PST by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: scooby321

Go somewhere else, Troll! Go where the scumbums go!

You are confusing Can with Perry. Cain does not do gaffes, nor does he do women!

Newt really reeled you in, a nice fat cat fish like you! You’d better do your homewowrk on that man. He instituted the Federal Department of Education, where you were obviously indoctrinated.

The money is rolling in big time to the Cain campaign since the Evil Left threw false acusations at him. You wouln’t know a fine man if the scales were off your eyes

Mr. Cain started with virtually nothing. He got out thetr and people liked him and liked what he had to say, so he began winning one straw poll after another. He’s still winning them. Now the campaign is now worth better than $9 Million, most of it in the past few weeks! And we true conservatives keep pouring it to him!

I think Obama has pretty much maxed himself out!

Mr. Cain has been proven time and again that he is a great delegater, so he will pick the best vice president, never fear.

Now you are outa here, you scumbum!


38 posted on 11/15/2011 11:17:19 AM PST by Paperdoll (II like Herman Cain)
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To: Antoninus
Pinging the old Duncan Hunter list to see if there’s any interest from you folks in putting this strategy into effect.

Thx for the ping, but barring a third party candidate of conservative caliber, I will be sitting this one out. There isn't a Conservative in the race.

39 posted on 11/15/2011 12:26:40 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Could you explain in a little more detail how this could be done? I have been looking everywhere for national phone banks for IA - like they had in WI - and so far have found none.

Are you allowed to post on the IA board here if you don’t live in Iowa - those people seem pretty important to me.

Any insight you can give me I would greatly appreciate.


40 posted on 11/15/2011 12:29:16 PM PST by true believer forever (First, they came for the rich.)
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