Posted on 11/14/2011 3:44:15 AM PST by lowbridge
Meet New York’s newest hero.
Kevin Hiltunen, a former NYPD officer, yesterday grabbed an Occupy Wall Street demonstrator by the collar and dragged him out of a Queens school where he’d been heckling US Rep. Bob Turner at the congressman’s swearing-in ceremony.
“I guess you could say I sorted him out,” said Hiltunen, 48, his jacket and tie barely mussed after dragging the scruffy protester out on his rear end.
“All I was doing was trying to stop this historic occasion from being disrupt-ed. There is a time and place to exercise your First Amendment rights,’’ said Hiltunen, of Bergen Beach, Brooklyn, who was identified by people at the ceremony as an ex-Marine.
“This was not the time or the venue,” Hiltunen added.
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You know what, he’s not a cop. Let the scumbag file a police complaint for assualt and let’s see what a jury of this man’s peers says about it.
I am sick and tired of everyone walking on eggshells around disruptive filth who BANK on decent people being cowards in order to abuse us on an almost daily basis.
My only regret in this story is that the Marine did not stomp a size 11 mudhole into this filthy punk’s chest.
Oh, swell, we just hear from one of the two bleeding heart liberals in Oklahoma!
And you know that you can’t possibly argue that he has the right to remain in that room while violating everyone else’s right to observe the ceremony in peace……..
And if you think you can support that protestor then you obviously stand in support of the Code Pink protestors who attempted to disrupt Sarah Palin’s V.P. nomination speech by rushing the stage in Minnesota back in 2008…..
His freedom of speech ended at that time when he was trampling the freedoms of the others present.
I’d have held the door open for the Marine. Then I’d have sworn up and down the OWS idiot said something about needing fresh air before passing out and becoming incoherent. The Marine was just helping him outside so he could recover...
Sometimes a man is “the authority”. A man does not call his wife, lawyer, HR Department or anyone else for authorization to do the right thing.
He didn’t ask permission. He just took it. Take it up with the authorities and file a complaint. OWS didn’t ask for permission. They just took it.
The knee jerk, automatic appeal to an external authority for the adjudication of a civil conduct issue is the hallmark of an immature, emotionally and intellectually stunted and dependent populace.
Grown ups self-police and self-regulate their communities. A man in full, and a community of such, has little to no need of the state in their lives.
You’ve been well governmentally educated grasshopper.
Hang around here a while longer and you might get your eyes opened.
You seem completely oblivious to the intent here.
Weismann showed up specifically to disrupt a lawful event, as evidenced by his prepared sign. He was left alone as long as he was quiet and respectful.
But when he started actively disrupting the event with his yelling, he was engaged in unlawful activity, as shown by the definition shown in a previous post.
His “right” to disrupt does NOT trump the rights of everyone else. His actions were, in fact, illegal.
And a nearby Marine “sorted him out”.
Semper Fi.
Actually, the poster gave a generalized description of a legal term, which does not necessarilly represent the Law in New York, though I asked if New York as that law, and if it applies in this situation. No answer yet.
“His actions were, in fact, illegal.”
What was the law? Was he criminally charged, and, if so, who arrested him?
OK, if you say so. The FACT is, our Republic is being stolen away from us a bit at a time, by the very ilk of creature that man hauled out of that inauguration. It has been said the Constitution is not a suicide pact. The freedoms it enshrines are being used against us and we are lying down for it.
“The knee jerk, automatic appeal to an external authority for the adjudication of a civil conduct”
Let me know where that came from, or is it wishful thinking?
“The freedoms it enshrines are being used against us and we are lying down for it.”
Thankfully, assault isn’t one of those freedoms, but some people think it is.
Love it! What a great picture.
New York Penal - Article 240 - § 240.20 Disorderly Conduct
Legal Research Home > New York Laws > Penal > New York Penal - Article 240 - § 240.20 Disorderly Conduct
§ 240.20 Disorderly conduct. A person is guilty of disorderly conduct when, with intent to cause public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly creating a risk thereof: 1. He engages in fighting or in violent, tumultuous or threatening behavior; or 2. He makes unreasonable noise; or 3. In a public place, he uses abusive or obscene language, or makes an obscene gesture; or 4. Without lawful authority, he disturbs any lawful assembly or meeting of persons; or 5. He obstructs vehicular or pedestrian traffic; or 6. He congregates with other persons in a public place and refuses to comply with a lawful order of the police to disperse; or 7. He creates a hazardous or physically offensive condition by any act which serves no legitimate purpose. Disorderly conduct is a violation.Section: Previous Article 240 240.00 240.05 240.06 240.08 240.10 240.15 240.20 240.21 240.25 240.26 240.30 240.31 240.32 240.35 NextLast modified: April 24, 2010
http://law.onecle.com/new-york/penal/PEN0240.20_240.20.html
The protester was engaged in criminal conduct. It is not likely that he would get very far in any kind of civil tort action.
Cordially
That pix is going to be iconic.
Are you saying Weismann’s actions were totally acceptable? And there has to be a specific written statute in force in a specific locality before anyone is justified in taking corrective, restorative action?
Illegal acts are rarely followed by actual arrest, unfortunately. Which is what the left depends on.
I, sir, do not wish to be ruled by the warped interpretation of Constitutional rights by those who would trample the rights of everyone except themselves. You can do as you wish.
I agree with you.
I cannot believe the amount of people in here who feel that we should just allow punks to come into places and disrupt speakers without making our own feelings known.
When America gets to a point where people cannot have a meeting without disruption the turds are winning.
If this clown wanted to speak he should find his own forum.
Lawyers and people who bait others to get a response that can be prosecuted are pussifying our country.
Real Americans are getting sick of this BS.
Dragging a disruptor out of a ceremony is hardly assault. Perhaps the disruptor should have been allowed to just ‘do his thing’ ad nauseum’.
Oh, I know, the police, yeah thats it, call them. So they can stand and watch that person ‘exercise his rights’ to speak out against Gov’t.
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