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Penn State's Sex-abuse Scandal Far From Unique
The New American ^ | Friday, 11 November 2011 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 11/13/2011 9:14:37 AM PST by Paladins Prayer

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To: jjotto

You wrote:

“FR is rife with pederasts or at least their cheerleaders and enablers.”

If you really believe that, then you would be calling the police right now wouldn’t you? If you don’t, then aren’t you a cheerleader or enabler then too?


21 posted on 11/13/2011 10:46:14 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: KeyLargo

Guess what? Sandusky’s pension continues...also Paterno’s and Schultz’s:

When he retired, Sandusky opted to take a lump-sum pension payment of $148,271 from the State Employees’ Retirement System. The rest of his pension is being paid out monthly and is $58,898 annually.

Schultz could be far more richly paid. He elected to receive a $421,847 lump-sum payment at the time of his retirement in 2009, after nearly 39 years of service.

He also receives a monthly pension payment of $27,558 — nearly the cost of tuition for two in-state freshmen at State College. That comes to nearly $331,000 a year.

Schultz had returned to his former post in September on an interim basis while the university conducted a national search for a permanent appointee.

Pension information for former Athletic Director Tim Curley, charged with perjury and failing to report suspected child abuse along with Schultz, was not available because he did not participate in the state pension system. Ousted President Graham Spanier also was not a member of the state pension system.

The Patriot-News has submitted a request for longtime football coach Joe Paterno’s pension.

Information about Paterno’s and Schultz’s pensions is now public information as a result of a five-year court battle launched by The Patriot-News in 2002. That lawsuit, which went all the way to the state Supreme Court, removed a shroud of secrecy that Penn State had demanded for university employees who participated in the pension plan.

— By Sara Ganim and Jan Murphy, The Patriot-News


22 posted on 11/13/2011 10:48:34 AM PST by Palladin (Where is Ray Gricar?)
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To: fella

http://kstp.com/kstpImages/repository/cs/files/Sandusky-Grand-Jury-Presentment-1.pdf

Yep, nothing to see here, just random lies by different people, in grand jury testimony.


23 posted on 11/13/2011 10:48:58 AM PST by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics. ProgressiveRepublicansInConservativeCostume)
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To: Paladins Prayer
...Joe Paterno has also been discharged. While not accused of any criminally actionable behavior, the gridiron legend is condemned for failing to do enough to stop the abuse after becoming aware of it.

Why should Paterno be excused for not contacting the police himself? Personal responsibility eluded him. Yeah, some coach, alright.

24 posted on 11/13/2011 10:49:42 AM PST by onedoug (lf)
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To: bjcoop

I would transfer. But then, the cult-of-college atmosphere would have discouraged me from attending, in the first place. Right now, I hate football and basketball and slimy intellectual college presidents, in general.


25 posted on 11/13/2011 10:54:55 AM PST by Havisham
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To: fella

http://kstp.com/kstpImages/repository/cs/files/Sandusky-Grand-Jury-Presentment-1.pdf

Yep, nothing to see here, just random lies by different people, in grand jury testimony.


26 posted on 11/13/2011 10:56:35 AM PST by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics. ProgressiveRepublicansInConservativeCostume)
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To: runninglips

This will turn your stomach, a definite contrast to the lovey-dovey coverage ESPN had of the game.

At Penn State’s stadium, profanity, scorn greet one father’s protest
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/nov/12/penn-state-stadium-profanity-scorn-joe-paterno/


27 posted on 11/13/2011 10:58:04 AM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: vladimir998

The site is being monitored.


28 posted on 11/13/2011 10:58:21 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Explorer89

Gee my bad. I was taught in civics claas (back in the 60s) That a Grand Jury was to see if there was enough evidence to bring charges. Now it seems that it’s to access guilt. I guess Ole’ Mr. Misue taught us all wrong.


29 posted on 11/13/2011 11:03:50 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: Paladins Prayer
What's the over/under that the media will not continue ignoring this?

The media is hoping this gets hushed up quickly, as soon as the named perps get whacked or suicided, and silenced.

So does the whole commie left, the establishment RINOs, all the jock faggots across the nation, every college and K-12 school, every NGO used to target "at-risk" youths, every CPS agency, and on and on and on.

The media is working overtime to confine the damage to just Penn State, when it is really a national epidemic.

30 posted on 11/13/2011 11:09:44 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: jjotto

You wrote:

“The site is being monitored.”

Okay, but what are YOU doing about it? After all, if you’re going to claim there are pederasts here and you don’t turn them in, then you’re practically an accomplice, right? Shouldn’t you be turning yourself into the police if that is the case?


31 posted on 11/13/2011 11:15:29 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: dfwgator

If this doesn’t show how far we are into decline, nothing does.


32 posted on 11/13/2011 11:25:15 AM PST by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics. ProgressiveRepublicansInConservativeCostume)
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To: Salman
It would seem to me that if old Joe had ask the alumni for a few kids to burn on an alter, he would have gotten a few bus loads.
33 posted on 11/13/2011 11:26:37 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: jjotto
"FR is rife with pederasts or at least their cheerleaders and enablers"

Bullshit.

34 posted on 11/13/2011 12:33:13 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: stevecmd

I predict that if Sandusky doesn’t commit suicide he will die in prison of old age.


35 posted on 11/13/2011 12:34:55 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: fella

“As far as I can see this is another trial and conviction by media.”

You’re mistaken. This is nothing like the lame accusations against Herman Cain.

The major players in this scandal have admitted what happened. Jo Pa said he should have done more. Multiple victims have come forward with a staggering number of incidents, at least one of which was witnessed by a PSU football staffer. The charges have already gone to the Grand Jury.

It’s not a question of ‘if’ it happened. They have done the opposite of Nifong at Duke with this case. There won’t be any charges of malicious prosecution of this whole scandal.


36 posted on 11/13/2011 1:38:28 PM PST by webstersII
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To: fella
As far as I can see this is another trial and conviction by media. Only some charges have been made, there has been no trial nor conviction. And yet punishments have already been dealt out even to some who have not been charged. We should not declare guilt before a trial is completed because it makes us appear to be like those black hats up in Salem in the 1600s.

Well, we know that Sandusky is on record as having to admitted to inappropriate contact with Victim 1 to his mother with 2 police in the next room listening. God only knows (literally) why Gricar didn't prosecute.

Having said that, considering that the DA has said that neither Paterno nor McQueary are currently in danger of indictment, there is desire to go after those two for their egregious moral failings.

37 posted on 11/13/2011 2:05:49 PM PST by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: Salman
I think we underestimate how many people who are basically OK with raping children even if not into it themselves.

Unless it is a priest, of course.

Insert "priest" in place of "Sandusky" and "Bishop" in place of "Paterno." Why is it okay for Paterno to get a pass but not a bishop?

The double standard disgusts me. They ALL should be thrown in jail.

38 posted on 11/13/2011 2:29:25 PM PST by It's me
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To: It's me

That’s why I posted this article. Leftists couldn’t care less about pedophilia. It’s simply a hammer they can use to destroy institutions they hate, like the Catholic Church. Meanwhile they ignore the child sexual abuse in the government school system, which is 100 times as common.


39 posted on 11/13/2011 4:13:25 PM PST by Paladins Prayer
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To: Havisham

I would never transfer. I love PSU too much and I’m not even a big football fan. I must say there is a strong minority of students that feel it was right for Paterno to be fired. There are a lot of good, common sense students and people here.


40 posted on 11/13/2011 5:23:37 PM PST by bjcoop
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