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Cult! A Classic False Claim
Mormon Defense League ^
| October 9, 2011
| Mormon Defense League
Posted on 11/12/2011 10:43:37 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
Some public figures have labeled the Mormon church as a cult. Most recently, ABC News reported that Dallas Pastor Robert Jeffress applied such a label in an interview following a political gathering where Jeffress introduced a political rival to Mormon candidate Mitt Romney.
Use of such a term to describe Mormonism is highly offensive to members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Cult carries the connotation of dangerous, even violent groups whose beliefs are irrational and whose practices are immoral and lawless (Koresh and the Branch Davidians, Heavens Gate, Aum Shinrikyo, and The Peoples Temple are all prominent examples) . The term cannot be applied to Mormons unless it is so broadly defined that its use could be applied to virtually any religious body.
Like racist language, the use of the word cult to describe a religion usually tells us very little about the religion, but a great deal about the person using the word. In short, it tells us only that the person using the label cult doesnt like the religion in question, or thinks it is illegitimate. Bryan Wilson, a Fellow of All Souls College, Oxford, and a noted sociologist of minority religions noted:
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: Godzilla
I’m pretty sure your take is correct.
To: All
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posted on
11/12/2011 7:11:09 PM PST
by
musicman
(Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
To: 1010RD
Excellent post and accurate.Wait 'til you get to #33!
243
posted on
11/12/2011 7:11:40 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Well we can always hope otherwise :)
244
posted on
11/12/2011 7:12:17 PM PST
by
Godzilla
(3/7/77)
To: Godzilla
To: restornu
The CINOS version to combat this is to malign and slander trying to hinder or deny others the right to recieve more of the Word of the LORD!Are there ANY MORMONs in this thread that can say what JS 'learned' to be 'untrue' about PRESBYTERIANism?
246
posted on
11/12/2011 7:13:31 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Saundra Duffy
Mormons believe that the Bible is inaccurate, and so they’ve come up with new “scriptures” to replace it, adding all sorts of “histories” and “prophecies” and “new truths.” And yet they claim Jesus as part of their faith.
From their foundation, they’ve rejected traditional faith in Christ, saying that all Christian traditions are corrupt, and that their religion alone possess the truth.
Mormons have rejected traditional faith in Christ. Of course they’re a “cult.”
Indeed, “cult” is a nice term for such a religion.
247
posted on
11/12/2011 7:14:08 PM PST
by
Theo
(May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
To: restornu
The Light has come.The Angels of Light have come!
NIV Galatians 1:6-9
6. I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel--
7. which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.
8. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
9. As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!
Even ANGELs from HEAVEN???
It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound.
When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air.
One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the otherThis is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
NIV Galatians 1:6-9
6. I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel--
7. which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.
8. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
9. As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!
ANYBODY???
Like this fine looking fellow???
2 Corinthians 11:12-15
12. And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about.
13. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
14. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
15. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
248
posted on
11/12/2011 7:16:18 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Saundra Duffy
Thank you for your Post 67. Good points.Still think that your Leaders and FOunders created a DOGPILE in reply #33??
249
posted on
11/12/2011 7:17:24 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Saundra Duffy
Thank you for post #71. You get it.You are welcome for #33. You're going to get it.
250
posted on
11/12/2011 7:18:11 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: restornu
....endless venting from the CINOS disinformation machine!Matched against the endless avoidance of MORMON information; direct from the MORMON publishing machine.
251
posted on
11/12/2011 7:19:40 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Southflanknorthpawsis
I believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. The Trinity is a man-made concept and the word is not found in the Bible. I worship Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. When I say this is what I believe, this is what I believe. Maybe I think you are wrong but that is what you believe.
Some on this site would condemn an entire group of believers in one fell swoop while the key is that every man/woman must work out his/her own salvation in fear and trembling. In other words Heavenly Father knows us each individually and He alone knows our hearts. Not you, not me, not any other puny mortal. So again I say Jesus Christ is my Advocate with the Father and I am glad for this - that you are not my judge.
252
posted on
11/12/2011 7:21:03 PM PST
by
Saundra Duffy
( For victory & freedom!!!)
To: Saundra Duffy
The LDS Church believes in a second chance for sinners after they die - that they will have the opportunity to accept the Gospel of Jesus Christ.THAT right there...negates EVERYTHING that Jesus taught, and DIED for.
The very FACT...you and yours DEFEND this, when the Christian BIBLE doesn't come close to saying anything like this...is horribly sad.
To LDS, Inc....the BLOOD of the Lamb of God...means NOTHING...IF, you really believe you will have a 2nd chance.
253
posted on
11/12/2011 7:21:09 PM PST
by
Osage Orange
(Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
To: Saundra Duffy
The LDS Church believes in a second chance for sinners after they die - that they will have the opportunity to accept the Gospel of Jesus Christ.Directly opposing what the Bible says:
Hebrews 9:27 And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment...
254
posted on
11/12/2011 7:21:14 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Saundra Duffy
The LDS Church believes in a second chance for sinners after they die - that they will have the opportunity to accept the Gospel of Jesus Christ.Sandy; that is NOT completely true - you SHOULD know that.
ONLY if a person NAME is invoked in a secret MORMON Temple Ceremony® will that person 'get a second chance'.
Since a VAST amount of names are unkown and UNKNOWABLE; MORMONism's claim is a bit, shall we say, lacking.
255
posted on
11/12/2011 7:24:04 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Saundra Duffy
I call Harry Reid a MINO (Mormon In Name Only).
You are SO much smarter than the staff at BYU!!
256
posted on
11/12/2011 7:25:00 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Saundra Duffy
There is only one Gospel of Jesus ChristThe EMPTY or the FULL?
You have FAILED (on purpose?) to address the fact that the FULLNESS of the Gospel CANNOT be found in the BoM as MORMONism claims.
257
posted on
11/12/2011 7:26:29 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Saundra Duffy
The EMPTY or the FULL?The judges are working over time on this thread.
Yes; they are; and they are weighing the EVIDENCE placed before them.
258
posted on
11/12/2011 7:27:43 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Saundra Duffy
****The LDS Church believes in a second chance for sinners after they die ****
Luk 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
Luk 16:23 And in HELL he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
Luk 16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a GREAT GULF fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that [would come] from thence.
Hbr 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
To: Saundra Duffy
We worship the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.Yet you CHOOSE to ignore your GOD's Eternal Covenant of POLYGAMY.
260
posted on
11/12/2011 7:28:43 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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