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Survivors of sexual abuse appalled by Penn State unrest
CNN ^ | 11 Nov 2011 | Madison Park

Posted on 11/11/2011 6:47:52 PM PST by Hoodat

How does a survivor of sexual abuse respond to students rioting at Penn State?

"You're not getting it. You just don't get it," said Dave Lorenz who was abused by a priest as a teen.

"It's just stupid youthfulness."

Earlier this week, legendary head football coach Joe Paterno was removed in the midst of a scandal involving sexual abuse allegations against a former defensive coordinator, Jerry Sandusky.

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Watching footage of Penn State students rioting in the streets Wednesday night, Lorenzo shuddered, then hung his head.

What bothered Lorenz is that students "rallied around (Paterno's) house, cheering him up."

"The kids up there just don't understand what this does," he said.

"Stop thinking of the adult and start thinking of what happens to a child that goes through this. You love the adult, you may not know the kid. Start thinking of the kid and the horror they go through, because it's hell."

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Kayla Garriott, a 22-year-old college student who was sexually abused as a child, said the open support for Paterno was disrespectful to survivors.

"That's the first thing people look at -- that their football team is without their head coach that's been there so many years. Nobody looks at the eight children."

The rioters are "never going to be in those children's shoes. It's not about football. It's about eight children who are never going to get back their lives back. They're going to live with this the rest of their lives. They might not get over that."

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: childabuse; clintonlegacy; jerrysandusky; joepaterno; paterno; pennstate; pennsylvania; sandusky
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To: Joe 6-pack

Narcissist that you are, I’m not surprised you think that


101 posted on 11/11/2011 10:57:08 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: antceecee
LOL...a few post backs I was insecure...now I'm a narcissist.

You really should look into some of the marvelous strides medical science has been making in the treatment of bipolar affective disorder. I truly hate to see my fellow man suffer so.

102 posted on 11/11/2011 10:59:45 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

The point is that many people (I don’t know if this includes you, but I suspect it does) read the report and then assume that Paterno knew exactly what Sandusky had done and had been doing all along. The facts support that he had no idea until 2002, at which point he knew that his graduate assistant had seen something. Paterno has said repeatedly that what was told to him was not explicit or detailed, which explains why he would still not be certain what Sandusky was doing.


103 posted on 11/11/2011 11:01:39 PM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Most narcissists are quite insecure, hence their disorder.


104 posted on 11/11/2011 11:02:39 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: flintsilver7

That is not my guess. A full investigation will take place and put everyone on the bench. The Regents had heard enough to understand the culpability. I do not wish this on anyone but a decision was made based on information afforded to them.
It will never come back. This story has legs and now Texas is involved. Before you know it, the FBI will stream out.

The Regents know this.


105 posted on 11/11/2011 11:03:30 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Zevonismymuse
Graham Spanier, the President of PSU. If you read the papers and books he has authored it will disgust you. This guy is an expert on Advanced Homosexual Studies.....he has been working to advance their agenda since the 1970s.

and the plot does thicken....interesting and no doubt will become newsworthy in this whole case.

106 posted on 11/11/2011 11:08:29 PM PST by caww
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To: flintsilver7
I make no such assumption. I think a reasonable case can be made that Paterno did, or at least should have had some idea of the circumstances surrounding Sandusky's '99 'retirement'. Having worked closely together for a number of decades, I can't see Sandusky just up and retiring without Joe at least asking him about it. I'm just not sure how Paterno, as his direct supervisor, would not have at least had some inkling of the '98 investigation. It's entirely possible that Paterno was clueless about everything prior to '02, I just don't think it's likely...even if it had been nothing other than rumor.

Certainly by '02, he had allegations by McQueary who was not just a "graduate assistant" but had been his quarterback as an undergrad, and who would really have no motivation to falsify allegations against Sandusky. Even if McQueary was intentionally vague, Paterno's account the GJ specifically included the term "something sexual" with a young boy. There's just no walking it back from there to "no idea."

107 posted on 11/11/2011 11:09:11 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: eyedigress
Yes... just in time to cover Obama's crimes. Funny how this is all coming to fore right now.. not. Media have been on this trail for awhile and this is a lib University. Need some cover Obie... let's throw someone on the fire for you. Not to say there isn't something there, obviously is, but I question the timing. Let's in one fell swoop take the country's eyes off the GOP Primary, Fast & Furious, Solyndra and other numerous issues the Obie-bots do not want us to see....We really are a country of sheeple. Wouldn't it be nice if we could recognize that while the investigations of any abuse by university sports persons with minors is completely appropriate and our outrage should be great... IT DOES NOT NEGATE THE FACT OBAMA IS DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY, NOR THE FACT WE NEED TO BE ON HIS ASS ON EVERY SINGLE ILLEGAL ACT HE HAS PERPETRATED AS POTUS.

Wake up people!!!

108 posted on 11/11/2011 11:10:32 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: antceecee
"Most narcissists are quite insecure, hence their disorder."

Sounds like you're intimately familiar with the pathology.

109 posted on 11/11/2011 11:11:09 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: antceecee

Tell PSU to stop raping children and maybe that distraction will go away.


110 posted on 11/11/2011 11:12:35 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Yes, I and my sisters were subjected to one as children. Does that satisfy you? I know the type quite well.


111 posted on 11/11/2011 11:12:58 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: eyedigress

Take the sand out of your eyes.....


112 posted on 11/11/2011 11:13:35 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: antceecee
"Yes, I and my sisters were subjected to one as children. Does that satisfy you? I know the type quite well."

Nope. I'm sorry to hear about it.

113 posted on 11/11/2011 11:15:08 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: antceecee

Go ahead and punch on me. I hate it as much as you do. It is a bad time for Penn State.


114 posted on 11/11/2011 11:18:37 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress

Sorry... that’s not a punch..just a tap.


115 posted on 11/11/2011 11:22:12 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Ron C.
The abuser is known, and he gets a pass, while Paterno gets the ax.

The abuser, Jerry Sandusky, faces up to 460 years in prison.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2011/11/jerry-sandusky.html

Paterno just got fired.

116 posted on 11/11/2011 11:23:10 PM PST by TChad
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To: TChad

Then the entire board of the University should also be fired and lose any and all professor chairs/positions they hold.


117 posted on 11/11/2011 11:24:36 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: antceecee

I know I would be devastated to hear this from UT. The worst part of this story is the legacy of Joe Paterno. The last of the old school that has weathered the storms and created a very successful environment. It is a shame.


118 posted on 11/11/2011 11:27:09 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: flintsilver7
Paterno was the third party who never should have been involved

Wasn't he Sandusky's boss for about 30 years? He either knew or should have known that something wasn't exactly right with this person who reported to him. Lots of other organizations would hold an executive responsible for not protecting the organization from this kind of fallout.

119 posted on 11/11/2011 11:56:32 PM PST by wideminded
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To: flintsilver7
How do I put this? Let's see.

I've wiped cleaner things than Paterno off the bottom of my shoe.

120 posted on 11/12/2011 12:33:48 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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