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Casey, Toomey Withdraw Support for Paterno Medal of Freedom Bid
NBC Philadelphia ^ | 11 November 11 | Catherine Brown

Posted on 11/11/2011 11:12:59 AM PST by bjorn14

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: paterno
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To: NewinTexsas

That’s some of the facts that will come out. It’s going to be one hell of a mess.
You made a statement of fact. Are you saying that it will come out that there was a police investigation? That would be contrary to the grand jury report. I guess heads would roll?
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No, I am sorry for confusion...there were things that went down with the 1998 incident that were buried (that was a police investigation)...there were also PSU admin after the 2002 incident that were stating an investigation had occurred, but nothing was uncovered (major BS that directly contradicts statements made to the GJ). In addition to the 2 already charged with Perjury, there were other higher ups that knew, did nothing, or actively buried.

It will be extremely messy.


41 posted on 11/11/2011 1:11:12 PM PST by Tulane
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To: Tulane

Did you miss my list that I started about five days ago? Most of the list related directly to the 1998 case. You have nothing new here.

People we know that knew Sandusky raped little boys.

President Spanier
AD Curley
VP Schultz
PSU Attorney Wendell Courtney
Second Mile Attorney Wendell Courtney
University Police (Detective Ronald Schreffler)
State College Police (Detective Ralph Ralston)
Department of Welfare (Investigator Jerry Lauro)
Child Services
County DA Gricar
County Prosecutors
Coach McQueary
Dr. McQueary (Chief Operating Officer/Administrative Director Centre Medical)
Coach Paterno
Various elementary and high school officials
John DiNunzio (Keystone Central School District Interim Superintendent)
Second Mile officials
Joe Paterno’s staff including down to the janitors

Still to be determined:

Media
NCAA Coaches (Nobody wanted him when he retired)
Board of Trustees


42 posted on 11/11/2011 1:15:58 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Tulane

Ah yes, the dance of ‘pedophiles in high places’ ... the demonic nature of such criminality just corrupts so thoroughly. Is it any wonder that the major political parties really avoid these issues like the plague, while pretending to fight against abortion, etc, or ‘protect the rights of women’? Evil has inveigled our society so deeply, perhaps it cannot be cleansed at this stage of degenerating. The American people worshipdegenerates like sinkEmperor clitnoon and barry bassturd, ignoring the diseased souls because they deliver some ‘gravy’. I suspect the Second Mile donors will have a few diseased members who need exposing in this evil, but the democrat and republicans in Pennsylvania are probably too woven into the connections to afford prosecuting and punishing the perverts.


43 posted on 11/11/2011 1:19:47 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: NewinTexsas

I wasn’t on except for maybe an hour total in past month or so, so missed that. Thanks


44 posted on 11/11/2011 1:20:59 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat
I wasn’t on except for maybe an hour total in past month or so, so missed that. Thanks

Google for Mark Madden and read/listen to him. He has been writing about this for months.

45 posted on 11/11/2011 1:27:40 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Kackikat

Several days ago, posters put 2+2=4 about the timing of Sandusky’s retirement related to the 1998 investigation. There is no direct evidence, yet.


46 posted on 11/11/2011 1:30:24 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas

I read about the rumor Madden was discussing on another forum, the ‘pimping out’ of the young boys for donations to Penn State, but it hasn’t been on the radar yet; and waiting for proof to surface.
However, if that turns out to be true, it makes the District Atty Ray Gicar’s disappearance really important, as to why he vanished. It could be his life was in danger, and he became his own ‘witness protection program’ if high profile people were involved. Or he was murdered for investigating for more evidence on Sandusky. This is only speculation, with what I’m reading online.


47 posted on 11/11/2011 3:10:46 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: NewinTexsas

This whole thing is going to blow up in Penn State’s face, if the rumor is true....even so it will be years for anyone to trust a sports department again, where young children are concerned.
WHY Sandusky wasn’t told never to come back to the facilities on campus is beyond me, in 1998...then the shower incident seen in 2002, at what point do they get it?? Evidently, there is some reason the college did NOT reprimand beyond his 1998 retirement. That, in and of itself, is highly suspicious.


48 posted on 11/11/2011 3:14:26 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat
then the shower incident seen in 2002, at what point do they get it??

Somewhere a day or two after the grand jury report was released ...

49 posted on 11/11/2011 4:06:12 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: SF_Redux

There are no heros in this mess, not one. Everyone connected with that program knew something was not right. Paterno should have retired 15 years ago.


50 posted on 11/11/2011 4:09:52 PM PST by alarm rider (I took the pledge, I will never vote for another RINO, not now, not ever.)
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To: SF_Redux

I remember this story now. The DA who disappeared. Pennsylvania. I finally ‘get’ it. At the time, I wondered why there was so much coverage and what looked like concern.

It wasn’t about him dying/being murdered, was it.

I wondered the same thing in the same manner when Tim Russert died. Newspeople looked freaked.


51 posted on 11/11/2011 4:29:56 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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Gricar
52 posted on 11/11/2011 4:32:59 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: bigdaddy45

“Paterno either believed it and did nothing, or chose to believe that a trusted assistant coach (McQueary) was a liar.”

Actually, there are other options/possibilities, too.
Why would he take it no further/follow up? Why did no one?

Snarlen Arlen might have another magic bullet theory there in Pennsylvania......


53 posted on 11/11/2011 4:37:05 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: NewinTexsas

Would Ed Rendell have known, do you think?


54 posted on 11/11/2011 4:43:05 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: MHGinTN

What you said.


55 posted on 11/11/2011 4:45:42 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: NewinTexsas

Check out this rumor, and other witnesses:

http://elle-kynzer.wrytestuff.com/swa789035-Sandusky-Had-More-Witnesses-To-His-Criminal-Acts-Against-Children-Over-The.htm


56 posted on 11/11/2011 7:01:12 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Walrus

no shame whatsoever...facts previous...former confession of wrong doing with apology... a trail of sexual abuse toward children....40 counts against this beast...and his own mouth wishing he were dead for assulting a child.

Beyond a reasonable doubt has played a game of letting people go who should not have been let go...and others were maimed or killed which followed....

We aren’t talking about “reasonable” doubt...we’re talking about a history of abuse...and yet another victim..number 9 steps forward...and there will be more no doubt.

Nope..no shame here...and furthermore the shame rests in those who continue to “protect” criminals via our insane laws.


57 posted on 11/11/2011 9:39:27 PM PST by caww
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To: Kackikat

It now appears even the home for wayward kids he founded knew of previous charges against him...and even they turned their heads. Hopefully many people will be held accountable.


58 posted on 11/11/2011 9:42:49 PM PST by caww
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To: Kackikat

It’s pretty obvious not a single person stepped up to the plate to protect these kids.....and no inquiry has surfaced where any of those who knew of these happenings checked to see how the kids were doing after the reports were given initially.


59 posted on 11/11/2011 9:45:36 PM PST by caww
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To: MHGinTN
JoePa is suffering having come to the realization that he is culpable, that he could have done much to prevent this after 1998.

He did say as much as we know....yet in saying that he also implies others also could have done much to prevent this. It' disturbing as well I haven't read anything in the reports where any of these guys followed up to see how the kids were doing...or if they did they're not saying

60 posted on 11/11/2011 9:55:12 PM PST by caww
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