Posted on 11/03/2011 5:24:19 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
Texas Gov. Rick Perry says America should extend work visas to allow illegal immigrants to move freely between the U.S. and their home countries _ but opposes a path to citizenship.
(Excerpt) Read more at lasvegassun.com ...
He is clueless..
Perry the rino (Bush back again) is an awful candidate whose liberal policies on immigration are only exceeded by Romney, he liberal democrat. Both are supported by liberal rinos and democrats.
I like the idea of cutting off all benefits to illegals and deporting all that can be identified better.
I know that Tony Snow wrote Myths and Facts on illegals when he served as President Bush’s press secretary...wonder if Perry’s views are similiar?
May 18, 2007
Myth/Fact: Ten Key Myths About the Border Security and Immigration Reform Agreement
White House News
1. MYTH: This is amnesty.
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FACT: Amnesty is the forgiveness of an offense without penalty. This proposal is not amnesty because illegal workers must acknowledge that they broke the law, pay a $1,000 fine, and undergo criminal background checks to obtain a Z visa granting temporary legal status.
• FACT: To apply for a green card at a date years into the future, Z visa workers must wait in line behind those who applied lawfully, pay an additional $4,000 fine, complete accelerated English requirements, leave the U.S. and file their application in their home country, and demonstrate merit based on the skills and attributes they will bring to the United States.
• FACT: Workers approved for Z visas will be given a temporary legal status, but they will not enjoy the full privileges of citizens or Legal Permanent Residents, such as welfare benefits and the ability to sponsor relatives abroad as immigrants.
2. MYTH: This proposal repeats the mistakes of the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act. •
FACT: The 1986 Act failed because it provided amnesty for 3 million immigrants, did not adequately secure borders, did not include a workable employer verification system, and created no legal avenue to meet the labor needs of the American economy.
• FACT: This proposal addresses every one of the shortcomings from 1986: •
No Amnesty: Illegal workers must acknowledge that they broke the law and pay a fine to be eligible for a Z visa.
• Border Security: Border security benchmarks must be met before the Z visa and temporary worker programs go into effect. These triggers include: constructing 370 miles of fencing and 200 miles of vehicle barriers at the border and increasing the size of the Border Patrol to 18,000 agents.
• Employer Verification System: An Employment Eligibility Verification System must be ready to process new hires before the Z visa and temporary worker programs go into effect.
• Temporary Worker Program: A temporary worker program will relieve pressure on the border and provide a lawful way to meet the needs of our economy.
• FACT: The 1986 Act offered green cards after just 18 months, but under this proposal, green card applicants must meet a number of responsibilities – something which will take most candidates more than a decade.
3. MYTH: The government will not and cannot meet its promise to crack down on the hiring of illegal workers. •
FACT: Before the Z visa and temporary worker programs go into effect, an Employment Eligibility Verification System (EEVS) must be in place and ready to prevent unauthorized workers from obtaining jobs in the United States.
• FACT: Employers will be required to verify the work eligibility of all employees using the EEVS, and all workers will be required to present stronger and more readily verifiable identification documents. Tough new anti-fraud measures will be implemented to restrict fraud and identity theft.
• FACT: Employers who hire illegal workers will face stiff new criminal and civil penalties. For example, the maximum criminal penalty for a pattern or practice of hiring illegals will increase 25-fold, from $3,000 per alien to $75,000 per alien.
4. MYTH: This proposal would cut in half the amount of fence authorized by the Secure Fence Act of 2006. •
FACT: The Secure Fence Act of 2006 – which authorized the construction of hundreds of miles of additional fencing; more vehicle barriers, checkpoints, and lighting; and increased use of advanced technology – will remain unchanged.
• FACT: At least half of the additional fencing authorized by the Secure Fence Act must be built before the temporary worker program and Z visa could go into effect.
5. MYTH: The trigger period will cause a rush to the border. •
FACT: To be eligible to apply for a Z visa, illegal immigrants must prove they were in the country prior to January 1, 2007.
• FACT: Anyone caught crossing the border after the new law passes will be fingerprinted and permanently barred from receiving work or tourist visas from the U.S., creating a strong disincentive to illegal immigration.
6. MYTH: By providing an opportunity for citizenship to illegal immigrants already here, the bill will exponentially increase extended-family chain migration. •
FACT: The proposal reforms our immigration system to create a new balance between family connections and our national interests and economic needs.
• FACT: Visas for parents of U.S. citizens are being capped, while visas for siblings and adult children are eliminated.
• FACT: To help keep our economy competitive, a new merit-based system similar to those used by other countries will give preference to attributes that further our national interest such as: job offers in high-demand fields, ability to speak English, and education.
7. MYTH: The temporary worker program is bad for American workers. •
FACT: The temporary worker program relieves pressure on the border and meets our economic needs by allowing workers to enter the country to fill jobs that Americans are not doing.
• FACT: The program protects American workers by requiring U.S. employers to advertise the job in the United States at a competitive wage before hiring a temporary worker.
• FACT: To ensure “temporary” means “temporary,” workers are limited to three two-year terms, with at least a year spent outside the United States between each term.
• FACT: A cap of 400,000 is set on the program, which can be adjusted up or down in the future depending on demand.
8. MYTH: Illegal immigrants will come out of the shadows and on to the welfare rolls. •
FACT: Z visa workers are not entitled to welfare, Food Stamps, SSI, non-emergency Medicaid, or other programs and privileges enjoyed by U.S. citizens and some Legal Permanent Residents.
• FACT: In order to apply for and maintain Z visa status, workers must remain employed.
9. MYTH: Government agencies will not be able to share information to pursue immigration violators. •
FACT: Under this proposal, there will be unprecedented information sharing between Federal, State, and local agencies to ensure that immigration laws are respected and enforced.
• FACT: The new Employment Eligibility Verification System, which employers will be required to use for all employees, will rely on unprecedented information sharing across Federal and State databases, including Social Security records, passport and visa records, and State driver’s licenses.
• FACT: For Z visa applicants, DHS has authority to share information with law enforcement about terrorist aliens, security risks, and criminal aliens, including aliens who lie on their applications and aliens who commit fraud.
• FACT: Under this proposal, DHS will receive Social Security Administration “no match” information on individuals and information on multiple uses of the same social security number by more than one individual.
10. MYTH: Senators are being asked to vote Monday on a lengthy bill that they will not have time to read. •
FACT: Monday’s vote is only a procedural vote to bring the bill to the floor for debate, not a vote on the bill itself.
• FACT: This bill is the product of months of extraordinary negotiations between Senators from both parties and Cabinet-level officials.
Can we PLEASE all agree once and for all that this guy is an idiot? PLEASE!! Because he is. There is no way that the Perry lovers can give this a pass. I just don’t see that happening. Even they know this is a stupid move on Perry’s part.
NO NO NO and NO
NO
I'm still undecided however this article doesn't state anything worthy of making a decision over.
What would be appropriate for Perry to say, kill them or what?
What say YOU on how to handle it Mr. Kenobe?
Can we move this to the sidebar?
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That is an idiotic thing to state with all due respect.
Exactly. I’m through voting. The Republicans can’t seem to field a candidate I can trust re crimigration. Screw ‘em.
Terrible proposal.
Temporary visas without a path to citizenship? That’s a horrible plan. If they don’t want to become Americans why are they here?
I’d rather admit only those who plan to stay, not those who shuttle back and forth over the border.
Temporary work visas have been around for a long time. Is there supposed to be something different about this?
He’s done if this is true. Screw work permits for the parasites. I’m tired of perry the fool. Looks like third party for me now.
Typically I could see you saying that depending on what the subject was. But this is seriously what you support? By supporting Perry you are saying that you think this is a great idea.......I just can’t believe anybody would find this a great idea. I guess you are the one. INCREDIBLE!!!!
I wonder what our Founders would think about America granting visas for people to come to do our work, never having a path to citizenship? I think the ones who supported slavery might think it was OK.
My simple plan: Crack down on the employers. Make them use instant verification (it's optional now). An employer who skirts the rules should be liable for criminal prosecution and serious fines. In other words, get rid of the honey pot. Secondly, for certain seasonal jobs, contract with foreign companies to provide labor. If the company "loses" too many employees, it loses its contract. Anyone on a work visa can't remain for more than six months at a time. Canada has a program something like this and it seems to work well. My suspicion is that there would be more than a little opposition from Republicans and Democrats, however.
That's not what he said less than 90 days ago.
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But just to be clear: if border security is accomplished, you can envision some sort of path to citizenship for people who are here illegally.
Rick Perry: Sure.
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There is a very good reason why Perry is polling in single digits and still dropping.
Here is why Perry is right.
Its all about getting them on record.
Here is how it works now.
If an illegal that "swam across the Rio" gets pulled over in Texas and they don't have a Driver's License or any other form of ID they are going to be booked with an ID hold. That means that they will not be released until their identity is proven. There are only two ways to do that, finger prints or someone with proper ID has to either bring them their ID or has to be able to credibly vouch for them under penalty of perjury. All a cop or jailer can do is ask, 'are you an American?' If they are here illegally and have never had contact with Law enforcement in the US their prints will not be on file, they also are not going to have anyone come and get them because they will provide proof that they are here illegally. So we are left with them either telling the truth or lying. If they tell the truth we can turn them over to ICE, if they lie, we can not turn someone who claims to be an American citizen over to ICE no matter how much our gut tells us they are lying. So now they are here, stuck in jail and we have to wait until they decide jail sucks and then tell the truth. The problem with that is that jail is usually better than their village in Mexico or whatever hell hole they are from.
Most Illegals entered legally but have over stayed their VISA but unless USCIS has put out a warrant or deportation notice on them Law Enforcement will have no way of knowing they are here illegally. A worker ID system would change that. There would be a system to track them and ID them and deport them. However, it is all useless unless we secure the border first.
Yes! Rick Perry single handedly INVENTED illegal immigration!
I just knew that had to be it!
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