[mandaladon]

................Mean looking weapon!!!

[Viking2002]

Me like! Me like!

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."

[rllngrk33]

I want one for Christmas!

[beebuster2000]

is that a .223 cal?

[Eye of Unk]

I would like to see it in a .204 Ruger.

[Jonty30]

How many prarie dogs can I take out?

[Lockbar]

Cool looing. Barrel is too short with the folding stock for regular sales if its even in semi-auto. Would have to be registered with the Feds as a short-barreled rifle and pay a transfer tax.

[bayouranger]

That is on my “To buy” list.

[50cal Smokepole]

Gun porn ping

[BreezyDog]

How Much?

[smokingfrog]

Well ain’t that cute.

[Boogieman]

Assault pistol rifle? Great. Once some reporter hears this phrase, everyone who is arrested with a revolver will be reported as possessing an “assault weapon”.

[GlockThe Vote]

Want one now!

[ImJustAnotherOkie]

Fit nicely in a back pack

[nerdwithagun]

Cool, but even quality .223 55 grain goes down to about 2500-2300 ft/sec and a little bit faster in 5.56. Still a nasty woond if the bullet fragments, but you have to know damn well if the bullet is for sure going to frag.

[MCF]

The muzzle blast from a 6.5” barrel shooting 5.56 ammo must be fierce.

[Raven6]

This may be new to Gilboa, but it is certainly not new to the market. The pistolized version of the AR system has been around a couple of decades. Heck, I think even Hollywood used one for Mr. Clark's weapon in the screen adaptation of Clear and Present Danger years ago. It's really just a gimick with a high CDI (chicks dig it) factor, since all you are really going to do is create a very inaccurate, very loud 5.56 NATO calibered noisemaker once you get a barrel length below 10 inches. I won't even go into the timing problems that occur when you are trying to properly regulate the gas system versus bolt cam unlock versus chamber pressure. We've had to pull 7 inch barreled AR15/M16 weapons off of the firing line because they become very expensive single shot weapons after they start beating the firing pin retaining pin into a "u" shape so deep that the firing pin can no longer strike the primer of the chambered round. I certainly wouldn't want my life depending on any system so modified. You'd be better off with an H&K PDW or MP5K in 9mm for any work in which an M-4 or MP5SD is too big to conceal.

I don't say all this to sound anti-AR15/M16... (I make my living teaching agencies the pro's and con's of this weapons system.) It's just that you can't make the AR15/M16 system do absolutely everything if you are intent on staying with 5.56 NATO. The Colt 9mm sub-machine gun works well, but then it still isn't as dependable as the H&K system. If it were, our SPEC-OPS units would use them instead of the H&K's since the Colt 9mm's are similar the the M4 weapons system with which the troops are already familiar. When working with agencies that use H&K 9mm's, I can tell you, I've never heard anyone say "Gee, I wish we could go back to the Colt 9mm subguns..."

Just my 2 cents...

[gilor]

A 223/556 with a barrel less than 20” is flawed from the design stage.

[Dogbert41]

This would be a better option, I think: Only with a shorter barrel, of course. But the action on this AR thing is not user friendly.

[Sea Parrot]

Whatever, but I have a close quarters combat weapon, and it has over a one hundred year impeccable sterling record to back up it's effectiveness. And just in case, I have a backup.

[Dead Corpse]

Looks like crap IMO.

Come on guys... Come up with something that is actually NEW.