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At What Point Will Herman Cain Be Held To Sarah Palin Standards?
Business Insider ^ | Nov. 2, 2011 | Glynnis MacNicol

Posted on 11/03/2011 12:36:48 PM PDT by presidio9

It's pretty clear that this Herman Cain harassment story does not have any legs. Of the truly damaging kind, anyway. (Unless, of course, this new employee can provide any actual details.)

Here's what appears to be getting lost in that story. Herman Cain's continuing ignorance on foreign policy.

Sure the initial ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan remark made for good late night fodder. But Cain's remarks regarding foreign policy in the last 24 hours should be sounding alarm bells. And they aren't.

Imagine for a moment (as Joe Scarborough did this morning) that Sarah Palin had said in an interview that she was worried about China as a military threat because they've "indicated that they're trying to develop nuclear capability and they want to develop more aircraft carriers like we have."

Cain said that last night on PBS. China has had nuclear capability since 1964.

Or declared it was her intention to send war ships into the Persian Gulf and get in a shooting war with Iran. As Cain did on O'Reilly last night.

Palin, meanwhile, was excoriated (and rightly so) for telling Katie Couric she reads "all the papers" and that her foreign policy experience was rooted in the fact Alaska was bordered by foreign countries (hence the SNL line "I can see Alaska from my house").

That interview was so damaging it essentially ended Palin's (and McCain's) White House run. One wonders if Cain would even make headline for anything so mundane.

It's true that Cain is not the official nominee as Palin was. But he has now sustained his lead in the polls for so long that he needs to be treated with some gravitas. Outside of MSNBC the media has been slow to shift to

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; cain; elections; herbcain; hermancain; reevaluategigrich; sarahpalin
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To: CMAC51

Cain is perfectly aware that China has nuclear capability. From an article he wrote about China (and Communism) in 2005:

“The U.S. should be less concerned about China’s economic potential than by the military threat it poses. Three Chinese spies were recently indicted in the U.S. for conspiring to steal numerous naval warship technologies. This summer China and Russia participated in a week-long joint military exercise. China’s build up of nuclear, military and space technologies to rival the U.S., and its saber-rattling over Taiwan’s independence, signals a commitment to more red, not green.”

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41 posted on 11/03/2011 1:10:55 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: jla
At what point will Cain apologize for (twice now) smearing Rick Perry?

HAHAHAHAHA! Awww...poor La Raza Ricky...pure as the driven snow!

42 posted on 11/03/2011 1:13:35 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: DesertRhino
What's frightening is that you people support this clown:


43 posted on 11/03/2011 1:17:16 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

Foreign policy is key in a Presidential candidate.

That’s the way our constitutional republic is set up.

I haven’t heard Cain in any extensive foreign policy speech.
You can’t fake it if you are President. You are the USA — its representative.

You have to have some background in the different factions,
shiites etc. in Iraq, Turkey, India, Pakistan, Asia (Australia, Japan,
south korea), the Israeli-Palestinian history and outlook, China

You need some kind of vision as well. What is your foreign policy priority if you are President?
Now of course there are world events that happen.

But as a voter I’d like to know that my presidential candidate has foreign
affairs background and vision. He or She can’t wait to “study” or rely on
experts if Israel decides to attack Iran January 2013. Or if China invades
Taiwan.

I don’t see anything with Cain right now. Nothing. Zero. No Progress.
No intellectual curiosity.

I will wait for AEI debate though.


44 posted on 11/03/2011 1:18:47 PM PDT by preamble
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To: buccaneer81

Why do people give money to tele-evangelists? True believers are not easily swayed away from somebody they’ve put all their faith and hope into and tells them all the things they want to hear. No surprise here.


45 posted on 11/03/2011 1:19:41 PM PDT by magritte
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To: presidio9

Palin did not tell Couric that she knew about foreign policy because of Alaska’s proximity to Russia. She did say something like that to Charlie Gibson. But as the unedited script shows (it was cut out for the interview), it was in response to a suggestion from Gibson. Palin did not hurt McCain; he was the author of his own misfortune. Exit interviews showed that for thos for whom the VP choice was important voted 58%/42% for McCain/Palin.


46 posted on 11/03/2011 1:20:59 PM PDT by Emerson C
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To: presidio9

Palin did not tell Couric that she knew about foreign policy because of Alaska’s proximity to Russia. She did say something like that to Charlie Gibson. But as the unedited script shows (it was cut out for the interview), it was in response to a suggestion from Gibson. Palin did not hurt McCain; he was the author of his own misfortune. Exit interviews showed that for thos for whom the VP choice was important voted 58%/42% for McCain/Palin.


47 posted on 11/03/2011 1:21:01 PM PDT by Emerson C
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To: preamble

Aside from Newt, there are no foreign policy people in this race. Face it, the public has their eggs in one basket: the economy.


48 posted on 11/03/2011 1:22:02 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Luther1917

McCain was just around so damned long he had more background in foreign affairs, which I agree was overly touted by him. The best thing a candidate can do is know the basics, don’t get drawn into places where that inexperience is so glaring. Cain wandered around on the China nuclear thing and gave an opening to the “he doesn’t even know...” about China. Notice that Romney and Gingrich don’t leave these kind of openings.


49 posted on 11/03/2011 1:23:38 PM PDT by magritte
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To: big bad easter bunny

I think that cult of foreign policy as a field requiring deep ‘expertise’, is silly mysticism that has it’s roots in European treachery. All an American president needs is an unshakable belief that America comes first,, period. Next, we are not going to involve ourselves in cheating and lies. PT Barnum’s honest man was the one you can’t cheat. Last, we should be a friend to all who will deal with us honestly, and stay away from the liars.
This vaunted expertise only becomes important when the president wishes to deceive the world and the American people of what he is actually doing.
America should not act like europe. Anyone who elects to deal
with us should know that there IS no hidden plan. This assures friends, and even makes enemies less dangerous.
If you neighborhood cop is meticulously fair and honest, it scares the shady, and warms the honest. But if he is corrupt, criminals are emboldened and always searching for ways to involve him in deeper and deeper corruptions. The good people will not become involved with him.
The foreign policy experts need it to be complicated. Honesty is simple. It’s time American foreign policy is Barnum’s honest man.


50 posted on 11/03/2011 1:26:41 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: magritte
That doesn't explain Cain's gains, especially in states like Iowa where the jaded are not easily swayed.

Cain is picking up new support from people who have had it with the MSM, scummy professional office holders and whiney feminazis.

51 posted on 11/03/2011 1:28:26 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: magritte

True. what a shame.

Before you give the keys to the best military and give responsibility
for our volunteer soldiers’s lives to this person, I would hope it would
be after a sober extensive debate.

WHy surge in Afghanistan when you are going to pull out due to a
strict political timetable?

Will they intervene in Libya? What is the security interest of Uganda to US?
What about Syria?


52 posted on 11/03/2011 1:29:36 PM PDT by preamble
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To: presidio9

Anyone with a little comprehension of English could see that he meant nuclear aircraft carriers from the context of his remarks.


53 posted on 11/03/2011 1:31:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: buccaneer81

hello ,,, Hey, you get citizenship yet?


54 posted on 11/03/2011 1:34:53 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: presidio9

The real problem here is the lamestream media (liberal and conservative) think they are king makers. If someone comes along with plans that don’t fit their idea of status quo, they have to nitpick away until they destroy the candidate.

The gotcha crowd will ask the outsider questions they would never ask their chosen ones. THAT is the most flustrating part about all of this, and what they did to Sarah Palin.

In Sarah’s case, there are people still out there still quoting things Tina Fey said as if they came from Sarah. I run into people like that all the time.

On Boortz the other day, Jamie Dupree said Politico was perceived as a conservative organization. That’s not what I thought. Today, Rush said Politico came from the Washington Post so they could say things the Post couldn’t print. Politico’s journalists? came from the Washington Post.

There should be a Occupy Media movement.


55 posted on 11/03/2011 1:36:52 PM PDT by OrioleFan
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To: presidio9
Cain meeting with Henry Kissinger today:

Cain's Foreign Policy Team

56 posted on 11/03/2011 1:37:59 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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58 posted on 11/03/2011 1:39:35 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: preamble

and ALL of your foreign policy dilemma’s are easily solved by a man who will ask what is in it for America, and will not engage in dishonesty. For example, such a man might think it’s disgusting to have our Marines being ordered to protect fields of opium poppies in Afghanistan.


59 posted on 11/03/2011 1:43:37 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: DesertRhino
I've had it since the day I was born.

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60 posted on 11/03/2011 1:48:42 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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