Posted on 11/02/2011 6:14:32 PM PDT by justsaynomore
I don't know if there is more than one source or not, but, according to Politico, Chris Wilson, a Governor Perry supporter and pollster for the super PAC that supports Governor Perry, worked at the National Restaurant Association and is the (a?) source for the Cain/sexual harassment story.
He said the episode of harassment occurred in a public restaurant in the 1990's and that many people knew about it. What is WEIRD about the Politico story and Chris Wilson, is that Chris Wilson would not or did not say what happened. The only reason that omission catches my attention is that sexual harassment is a rather “fluid” concept. Some actions are OBVIOUSLY sexual harassment and some are NOT – and are merely actions misinterpreted or exaggerated.
Hence I would like to know what it is that people (Chris Wilson) say Mr. Cain did. Of course because Wilson is also a Governor Perry guy, his remarks (accusation) should be looked at with a discerning eye – and it is all the more important that he provide more information about what he claims Mr. Cain did.
(Excerpt) Read more at gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com ...
RedState (which is in the tank for Perry) has been in full Perry defense mode since yesterday afternoon.
They’ve had a half dozen front page articles that say:
(1) It wasn’t Perry that leaked it
(2) It doesn’t matter if Perry did leak it, because this is just politicis
(3) The real story isn’t that Perry leaked it, it’s how Cain has handled the response—that’s what we should be focusing on.
Really? I need to read her article again then. If so, that is huge.
I guess your belief that Title VII under the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is unconstitutional, and that’s why you think sexual harassment isn’t a federal crime.
But the fact remains the federal government will prosecute your butt and get a guilty verdict for sexual harassment if your only defense is, “it’s not a federal crime”.
And if you still doubt what I’m saying read this from the Justice Department’s website:
Sexual Harassment Policy
The Department of Justice’s policy is to maintain a working environment which is free from any form of harassment related to a person’s sex, race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation*, mental or physical disability. This policy prohibits sexual harassment of employees because it, like other forms of harassment, interferes with a productive working environment, interjects irrelevant considerations into personnel decisions, and generally demeans the victims of harassment. Moreover, sexual harassment is a violation of Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
*DOJ Sexual Orientation Complaint Procedures
http://www.justice.gov/jmd/eeos/sexualharassmenthome.htm
well, I guess my other question is “Source for WHICH story? The initial one?” There have been several.
Then it gets down to the money dual—Romney and Perry.That's a dream-land fantasy you've got going there.
Perry is no longer in the running. He's got money, so like Ron Paul, he'll hang around. But he's not really in the running.
As I was saying, if this Wilson guy said he witnessed Herman Cain commit a federal crime he has a duty to tell everybody the details. Wilson isn’t bound to a non-disclosure agreement, and even if he were- non-disclosure agreements become null and void if a crime was committed.
Yes, Wilson’s claim that he witnessed a crime now absolves him of any legal agreements he may be bound by.
Therefore, he is purposefully hiding what he knows. And he is lying if he says he can’t speak of the details concerning what he saw due to legal issues.
What is sad to watch is the few longtime freepers slogging along being herded into fake rumor and innuendo based lynching. Sad that
Can you cite the criminal statute?
I can cite a ton of statutes. The bottom line is sexual harassment is a federal crime.
Section 706(f)(1) and (3) of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Section 102 of the Civil Rights Act of 1991
42 USC 1981a
Look, I don't support Cain. I hope he loses support because of his inconsistent statements and poor handling of this crisis, but I don't want it to happen as a result of some National Enquirer-style dirty laundry interviews of these women.
We don't prosecute someone TWICE in this country for the same crime, why should we give these women the microphone TWICE?
Title 42 of the U.S. Code is not part of the criminal code. You need to find something in Title 18.
okay, you’re right, the EEOC can’t go after anybody for violating federal law. Employers can go around sexually harassing anybody with no worry of a federal lawsuit filed against them. Same thing goes for racial discrimination. In fact, the EEOC has never filed a federal lawsuit against an employer in the history of the United States. In fact these cases on the EEOC website don’t exist:
EEOC Files Lawsuit Against Multilink For Sexual Harassment, Retaliation
American Laser Centers To Pay $125,000 To Settle Sexual Harassment And Retaliation Suit By EEOC
Michigan City Restaurant To Pay $23,000 To Settle EEOC Sexual Harassment Suit
Perry is dead in the water at 8% and behind in his home state of Texas.
He’s done.
What is the risk of a campaign mentioning to a reporter that there is something interesting if they look at the records of the NRA? It’s not like the campaign is sending out the story.
But since this story is based on verifiable facts, there really was little reason for any campaign to be involved. The media always go after front-runners, like the Perry Rock story, and would have no problem learning of this settlement as a normal course of questioning people associated with the candidate over the years.
If I ran for President, I would assume that every person I had ever had contact with who had a gripe with me would be found by the media eventually — it wouldn’t take another campaign.
Normally, the “campaign fingerprints” become an issue when individuals are found who come out with NEW allegations. Then we care if they came forward because a campaign contacted them.
But in this case, the harrassment complaints were filed in the 1990s, the settlement happened in the 1990s, and lots of people knew about it. No campaign had to drum up women to “come forward” — the women had already come forward, and it was all on the record.
I’d say a front-runner would also have to be stupid to directly accuse another person of wrongdoing without any evidence, but clearly it’s not, because Cain is kind of the front-runner and that’s exactly waht he did, and had his campaign manager do.
“The cain supporters are desparate”
Up 7% in national polls, up in Iowa, up 10 in South Carolina, tied in Florida...
...beating Perry in Texas while Perry is buried at 8% nationally.
I think it is obvious who is desperate.
OK.
Look in the mirror.
Not that.
roflamo!!!of course.
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