Posted on 10/29/2011 8:05:02 AM PDT by mnehring
Edited on 10/29/2011 2:08:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
The editors at Red State and Free Republic (among others) have had the wool pulled over their eyes. They seem to actually believe the lies originally propagated by supporters of President Obama and, in some cases, even by President Obama himself. Now, for some reason, these editors/moderators are so insecure in their prejudice against Gov. Romney that they ban people who openly support Gov. Romney. Free Republic (mostly because of its owner Jim Robinson) has purged all of the Romney supporters they could from the site in two waves of purges over the last few years. The anti-Romney and anti-Mormon bigotry evident at Free Republic now is absolutely sickening.
I havent been to Free Republic quite as much as I used to partly because I have been banned from posting. During the 2008 election, Mitt was accepted and lauded by many at Free Republic like he was by most conservatives. One of the best summaries of Gov. Romneys accomplishments was actually from Free Republic. However, Jim Robinson seemingly fell in love with Sarah Palin and initiated purges of anyone who wouldnt pledge allegiance to her. A few months back, I tried to make a new account and see if I could post about Gov. Romneys jobs plan and I was promptly banned and called a few derogatory names implying that I was a Mormon. Besides the fact that I am not Mormon, I cant for the life of me figure out how a site like that, filled with such hate, can find enough donors to keep it going. When I think of Free Republic, Im reminded of the scene from Star Wars Episode IV where Luke is warned that he is entering A Wretched Hive of Scum and Villany.
Red State has been fairly hostile to Gov. Romney for awhile, but they have crossed into new lows now as well. The guys from WhyRomney.com [3] have been working very hard and diligently to refute some of the many misconceptions about Gov. Romney, and I hope this unfortunate episode wont dissuade them or anyone else from trying to correct the people endlessly smearing Gov. Romney. What so many of these people who dont like Gov. Romney dont seem to realize is that they have been fed reasons to not like Gov. Romney by highly-funded democratic think tanks. Its abundantly clear now, no matter what Rush Limbaugh says [4], that President Obama is scared to death of facing Mitt Romney [5] in the general election.
If you want to check out the three open letters posted to Red State, you can read the one on mandates and health care here [6], the one about abortion here [7], and the final one on miscellaneous issues here [8] unless Red State removes the posts now that they have cowardly banned the authors of the letters. Also, Ive saved a screen shot of the admin belittling the efforts of our friends from WhyRomney [9] and giving his/her bogus reason for banning them which you can read here [10] just in case the admin tries to cover his/her tracks in shame. If you want to see how rude Free Republic is without actually subjecting yourself to the hate, just click here [11] for a screen shot of the reason they banned the author of a similar open letter.
I know there are bastions of bigotry against Mormons on other sites besides Free Republic and that Free Republic and Red State arent the only sites that have ever banned people they disagreed with, but Ive concluded that they are the grandparents of this anti-Romney crusade that fortunately seems destined to fail. Some other sites seem predisposed against supporting Mitt, but not at the dangerous level of these two.
The motives of people like Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh [12] to not want Gov. Mitt Romney to be the GOP nominee are easy to understand (hint: they make more money with President Obama in the White House), but I believe many other sites and conservatives are simply following their lead reinforced by the disingenuous people at Red State and the sheltered leader of Free Republic. Most other conservative sites that support candidates other than Mitt at least vow to support Mitt if he is the nominee, but I worry about what is festering at Free Republic and now, Red State. Once our nominee is selected, we will need all hands on deck to defeat President Obama. The members of these two sites should realize how detrimental the actions of their leaders may end up being to the ultimate cause of making President Obama a one-term President. I hope they will ask for their leaders to act in a more responsible fashion.
WELCOME TO FREE REPUBLIC!
NOTE: FR's "editor" (namely, me) is not shy about stating FR's conservative principles, purposes and goals or about stating why liberal progressive RINOS are not acceptable on FR and so adds the following links for reference:
One more time: FR's God-given Life & Liberty constitutional conservative activism agenda!!
The truth about Romney straight from HIS progressive big mouth
--Jim Robinson
"Go TEA Party!!"
Amen Brother!
Ridiculous, isn't it?
Have you seen her “Marry Me Mitt” video she posted yet? It crosses the creepy line, comes back to creep you out, then crosses the creepy line again.
Have you seen the more recent video where Newt is badmouthing the whole global warming alarmism?
Is sitting on the couch with Nancy really more disqualifying than the ideological and policy shortcomings of Mitt, Herman, & Rick P.?
No. Bobo would choose 2 Supremes minimum in the next 4 years, and one of those is a balance-of-power appointment. Even someone as low as Mittens would pick 3 better Supremes. Which is hardly an endorsement, believe me.
The whole thing is folly anyway. GoldmanSachs are donating to Romney over Bobo 3:1 -- when the Masters of the Universe and the GreybeardsOP triple-down on a candidate -- as they did inversely in throwing the election to Bobo in '08 -- the fix is in.
3 marriages isn’t a disqualifier for Prez.
You need an update on his AGW position.
Supporting some distant R incumbent over a Tea Party candidate isn’t exactly a damning sin....
Go back and compare to the list of disqualifies for the other 3 candidates.
Kabuki. The outcome is pre-determined.
Really?
Make a list and compare them to Mitt, Herman, and Rick P. negatives.
Bet they don’t have much to do with being Prez and beating Obama!
Aaah, the good ol' days. I was there in the trenches during the Condit/Levy affair.
Well, that made me chuckle. :-)
I gave to Mitt last primary season after giving to Fred and before finally giving to Palin/McLame. I think Mitt would be an interesting person to have dinner with, but I agree with so many others here about not helping him in the slightest while there’s ANYONE more genuinely conservative in the race. If it helps you understand, no one here would vote for Harry Reid, no matter how decent a Mormon he was.
However, I also would not vote for a Protestant that had the same views or voting record either, and I am a Protestant Christian.
Don't be bad-mouthin' Star Trek now.
No way.
Praising Kerry and making the ad with Pelosi while chastizing the GOP for not working with the Democrats on AGW makes him unsuitable for the presidency. He may be usefull but he can’t be trusted. Just ask his wives.
And your sainted candidate is....???
I like Herman Cain! Have nothing against him except that he lacks experience. That’s the only drawback. I doubt he could withstand a debate with Obama. Obama does not want to debate Romney. That’s all.
Bingo.
Jim, thank you for letting this thread go on.
mad me laugh
No sale here. Imagining Romney as the nominee ... try as I might, I cannot embrace his candidacy. His record is a mess. He's timid and it's reflected in his milquetoast proposals. He'll be a pushover puppet for Democrats in Congress. I have no enthusiasm for a President Mitt Romney.
As a Californian, I have the luxury of knowing my votes will not be a factor in determining the next POTUS or the GOP nominee. All I have to say is, those in the early primary states better damn well make the best choice because Obama's second term will be on your consciences.
Major campaigns inevitably attract some kook opposition. For Mitt's campaign there are a few anti-Mormon types floating around, talking about cults and white horses but no one can credibly argue that's why he's stuck at 25%.
He's stuck there because he is not trusted.
Cain just isn't "Mormon" enough for 94% of the deseret/desert Mormon voters...(Of course, Saundra's further West than that...so not sure if that applies to her)
Per this 2008 exit poll data:
Exit poll data from Tuesday's primary elections showed Utah Republican voters cared more about presidential candidates' PERSONAL QUALITIES THAN THEIR POSITIONS ON THE ISSUES, the OPPOSITE OF THE NATIONAL TREND of the national trend in Super Tuesday voting.
Source: Romney's exit disappoints strong Utah following (Feb. 7, 2008 AP/Salt Lake Tribune)
Rather interesting that 94% of Mormons in both Utah and Nevada voted for Romney in 2008:
"While the former Massachusetts governors faith has been a flashpoint in his campaign, it was perhaps one of his strongest assets in Utah, where more than 60% of the states residents share his faith. Exit poll data shows Romney swept voters across the board, handily winning every social, economic, and generational demographic in the state, as well as 94% of all Mormon voters."
Source: Susan Davis, Wall Street Journal, Feb. 5, 2008, Romney Wins Utah With Help From Friends [Note: The Wall Street Journal was citing MSNBC.msn.com...]
Per the Mormon Church, Mormons make up about 7.5% of Nevada's population. But according to the entrance polls so far, a whopping 25% of those who participated in the state's GOP caucuses are Mormons. And 94% of those people went with Romney.
Source: Nevada Mormons turn out for Romney (Mark Murray, MSNBC, Jan. 19, 2008)
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