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EDITORIAL: Obama’s pyrrhic Iraq victory
The Washington Times ^ | October 24, 2011 | Editorial

Posted on 10/24/2011 5:16:58 PM PDT by jazusamo

Hasty U.S. pullout will destabilize the Middle East

The White House announced the pullout from Iraq by the end of the year on a note of triumph. Obama adviser James Kvaal claimed that was “an example of what happens when a leader sets a plan and sees it through.” West Wing machismo was on full display, trumpeting, “President Obama has ended the war in Iraq.” Mr. Obama said the withdrawal was taking place “as promised,” but the pullout timeline evolved as did the president’s responsibility for the aftermath.

During the 2008 campaign, Mr. Obama proposed a withdrawal timeline with all troops out by the summer of 2010. “As I’ve said many times, we must be as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless getting in,” he wrote in the New York Times. “We can safely redeploy our combat brigades at a pace that would remove them in 16 months. That would be the summer of 2010 - two years from now, and more than seven years after the war began.” That promised timeline went by the wayside, and the plan Mr. Obama wound up executing was not his own but George W. Bush‘s. The end-of-2011 withdrawal deadline was established in the Status of Forces Agreement agreed to by America and Iraq in November 2008, before Mr. Obama took office.

The Obama administration tried to extend the U.S. commitment beyond the deadline. The White House pressed Baghdad to allow about 6,000 American troops to stay in the country for training,..

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: iraq; middleeast; obama
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1 posted on 10/24/2011 5:17:07 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

IMO the “war” in Iraq was over before Obama came on the scene. Just mopping up, training and being an active buffer against Iran/Syria adventurers.


2 posted on 10/24/2011 5:26:02 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: jazusamo

Eventually we will be bombing into oblivion all the infrastructure we helped to restore and build!


3 posted on 10/24/2011 5:26:48 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: elpadre

I believe you’re right, lets hope the Iraqis are strong enough and have the will to resist Iran’s upcoming incursion.


4 posted on 10/24/2011 5:30:30 PM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

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5 posted on 10/24/2011 5:31:51 PM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Yep, that’s a real possibility.


6 posted on 10/24/2011 5:33:28 PM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

All the sacrifices of our troops are nothing to Obama. He’s willing to throw it all away. It was for nothing. Iraq as an Iranian puppet will be a lot worse than Saddam ever was.


7 posted on 10/24/2011 5:34:43 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: jazusamo
West Wing machismo was on full display, trumpeting, “President Obama has ended the war in Iraq.”

Even Clinton didn't come close to the level of this president's narcissism. You know this quote from one of Obama's minions was dictated to him using these words specifically.

8 posted on 10/24/2011 5:46:13 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
"Eventually we will be bombing into oblivion all the infrastructure we helped to restore and build!"

That must be the real obama jobs program. We'll blow it up and then rebuild it again.

9 posted on 10/24/2011 5:49:03 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Afraid you’re right brother! Those busturds have been killing each other over religious differences damn near since the beginning of time. They will roll over to Iran and become another Islamic State in short order after our departure. But that was going to happen whenever we departed. And we will some day have to approach this Islamist situation the way we should have in the first place. Either them or us! There is no way Western culture will ever be able to live in harmony with these people.


10 posted on 10/24/2011 5:53:33 PM PDT by ImpBill (196th Light Infantry Brigade - DaNang PhuBai/Hue - Little "r" republican!)
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11 posted on 10/24/2011 5:58:42 PM PDT by narses (what you bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and what you loose upon earth, shall be ..)
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To: ImpBill

Actually, the Sunnis and Shia have only be fighting since the 7th Century, More recently, the present frontier between Iraq and Iran is generally the same as the border between the Ottoman Turks and the Persians and that was set in the 16th century.


12 posted on 10/24/2011 6:32:02 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: RobbyS

Time didn’t begin in the 7th Century? Just kidding. Thanks for the history lesson. I still think however, at some point we are going to have unleash WMD against them to get their attention that we will not be screwed with.


13 posted on 10/24/2011 7:12:42 PM PDT by ImpBill (196th Light Infantry Brigade - DaNang PhuBai/Hue - Little "r" republican!)
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To: jazusamo

so the hippies want the troops home ......... to spit on?


14 posted on 10/24/2011 7:22:47 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (welcome dies irae)
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To: jazusamo

We should start a FR pool to predict the exact day that Iraq is annexed into Iran. I’m thinking sometime around July 4, 2012.


15 posted on 10/24/2011 7:33:36 PM PDT by Newtoidaho (Fight organized crime. Vote out all incumbent Democrats!)
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To: jazusamo

We should start a FR pool to predict the exact day that Iraq is annexed into Iran. I’m thinking sometime around July 4, 2012.


16 posted on 10/24/2011 7:35:14 PM PDT by Newtoidaho (Fight organized crime. Vote out all incumbent Democrats!)
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17 posted on 10/24/2011 8:22:47 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Newtoidaho

I doubt that will happen. The Iraqi mullahs thinks of the Iranians as par venues. But it might become a satellite/ally.


18 posted on 10/24/2011 8:25:13 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: jazusamo; All
He has been in negotiations with the Tallies for 3 years - and has been systematically handing over the country to them -

and the press has kept it quiet - along with the first doubling of our troops killed (2009) then tripling (2010) and on the way to quadruple this year. ..because of his traitorous ROE that gives the Tallies the advantages, including first shot and delayed or no air cover.

All he's doing now is making his final gift of the country to the enemy.

These valleys weren't won by the Tallies - the OWN simply pulled out troops out - without taking the missiles, rockets, bullets etc - (I can tell you that this was a great blow to the troops)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WamBeYQeRvE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uj6sRlzgik&feature=fvwrel

Pinned down - refused air cover - because, under the new ROE, they “might” hit a civilian - even tho
assured no civilians in area.
Our troops died - and their blood is on O’s hands - (this is NOT as isolated incident)

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/09/08/75036/were-pinned-down-4-us-marines.html

The traitorous ROE that favors the enemy and kills our troops

http://icasualties.org/oef/

look at this chart that shows how our KIAS shot up in 2009 - due to the new ROE

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-5854835-503544.html

and then they tripled in 2010 - and are the highest yet this year “Up until this year, January-April 2010 (with 106 U.S. military fatalities) was the deadliest January-April period in the now almost-10-year-long war. 2010 went on to become the deadliest year for U.S. forces in Afghanistan with a total of 497 U.S. troops killed during the year.”

Here's a good summation of what these traitorous ROE’s are and what they have done - (Col. Allen West)

http://vladtepesblog.com/?p=24635

O is not ‘winning’ the war. He is handing the country over to the enemy - and none dare call it treason.

You care? Will you even take the time to watch thesse clips? Will you send them to everyone y ou know? (If not, then you are part of the reason this traitor gets away with it)

19 posted on 10/24/2011 9:36:49 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: maine-iac7; All

correction: “the ONE simply pulled out troops out”


20 posted on 10/24/2011 9:39:57 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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