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To: smoothsailing
Really??? I thought Rick came off as dishonest (his attack on Mitt about the illegal aliens was intellectually dishonest since he did not hire them directly and fired the lawn company as soon as he found out that they had hired illegal aliens). Rick Perry came off as petty. His response on the economy is still a one-note song, domestic energy production--good as far as it goes, but insufficient as a complete answer.

Truth is, Perry got booed more than I have ever seen any candidate in any debate and he deserved it. I predict he is going to continue to drop precipitously.

Sorry, because I had great hopes for him, but he would be absolutely eviscerated by Obama in any debate. He is not up to the challenge.
18 posted on 10/18/2011 7:21:50 PM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: Sudetenland; Vision

The booing is interesting, considering it’s source.

About 40% of the audience were Mittbotts, they booed Perry repeatedly. If I’m Perry, I gotta figure I’m scoring big.


33 posted on 10/18/2011 7:26:05 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Sudetenland

I disagree that Perry came off as being dishonest in his charge that Romney hired illegal aliens. To the contrary, if you review the exchange, Romney is the one who was dishonest. He first said ‘he had never hired any illegals’, and after interrupting and talking over Perry; claiming he had the right to talk, he admitted he had hired a lawn service and fired them a year later...after being exposed by a newspaper. His supporters claim the lawn service hired the illegals, but no one has said if the lawn service was operated by immigrants - legal or illegal. As Cain would say, ‘they’re mixing apples and oranges’. First he didn’t, then he did...is that dishonest or just another of his flip flops? He should not be allowed to monopolize others’ time when he interrupts and talks over them so the audience can’t understand exactly what they are saying about him.

I supported Romney in 2008, but not again. He is too arrogant, and does not appear to be the most honest of the candidates. He wrote in his book that Romneycare was a good policy for the nation. Now that he knows it’s an unpopular proposal, he has claimed he never thought Romneycare was good for the nation; only for Massachusetts. Rick Santorum said Romney had gone back and taken it out of his book. Perry had already accused him of doing that in an earlier debate. Romney did his best to talk over Santorum when he was making this point! That’s not the actions of an honest person, and if you will pay careful attention, Romney will interrupt and try to talk over those who are scoring points against him. In a real debate, a moderator would not allow this. I thought debates followed Robert’s Rules of Order!

You might be interested in reading about Romney’s position on Romneycare here: http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/santorum-romney-you-just-don-t-have-credibility-mitt-when-it-comes-repealing-obamacare


319 posted on 10/18/2011 11:00:17 PM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: Sudetenland

“Sorry, because I had great hopes for him, but he would be absolutely eviscerated by Obama in any debate. He is not up to the challenge. “

the play by play looks good in print but when you actually watch Perry debate...it’s nail-biting.


326 posted on 10/19/2011 12:07:12 AM PDT by ari-freedom ("Perry: good governor. Romney: Good hair."-Herman Cain)
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The latest Zobgy/I-BS interactive online poll shows Cain with 45%, Perry with 106%, Mittens with -26%, and Gingrich now the leader with 659%...


332 posted on 10/19/2011 12:27:43 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (/)
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To: Sudetenland

I think you nailed it, Sudetenland. No way was Perry the debate winner.


348 posted on 10/19/2011 4:05:16 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Sudetenland

“Really??? I thought Rick came off as dishonest (his attack on Mitt about the illegal aliens was intellectually dishonest since he did not hire them directly and fired the lawn company as soon as he found out that they had hired illegal aliens).”

That is a lie and easily proven. Look it up.


352 posted on 10/19/2011 4:37:33 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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