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Posted on 10/17/2011 11:00:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Las Vegas, Nevada— One day before a CNN Western Republican presidential debate, a new national survey indicates that Mitt Romney and Herman Cain are essentially tied for the lead in the race for the GOP nomination, with Rick Perry dropping to a distant third.
.....According to the poll [CNN/ORC International Poll], only one third of Republicans and independents who lean towards the GOP say they will definitely support the candidate they are currently backing, with two thirds saying they may change their minds.
"With only 33% of all Republicans saying that their minds are made up, it's far too early to say the race is over, or even that is has boiled down to a mano-a-mano fight between Romney and Cain," says Holland.
The survey indicates that most Republicans say they are satisfied with the field of GOP candidates still in the race, although only one in five describe themselves as very satisfied. Republicans who back the tea party are more satisfied with the field of candidates than Republicans who are neutral toward the tea party.
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Cain’s role has not changed. Cain has been a Romney supporter since 2008. Now Cain is serving Romney as his Stalking Horse to split up the Conservative vote so that Romney can win with less than 30% of the vote.
NOT Romney
I believe that was by design. Even a month ago - the media and their pawns here on FR - Sarah’s spoiling it for the other candidates - she needs to decide now - she’s stringing everyone along - gotta get a candidate to support blah blah.
They quickly got their candidate, embraced him/her and immediately they went into protective mode and no one can question their candidate - otherwise you are deemed a moron. They don’t want their candidate vetted. They are so easily played by the media and the GOP it’s laughable.
rconser
Since Oct 8, 2011
Troll.
Yes but with one difference; Republicans give you a choice between a RINO and a Conservative. With the Dims all you get is psychopaths.
Yes but with one difference; Republicans give you a choice between a RINO and a Conservative. With the Dims all you get is psychopaths.
Cain doesn’t want spending cuts because his candidate, Romney, is a Massachusetts Tax and Spend Big Government Liberal.
“Excise taxes are taxes paid when purchases are made on a specific good, such as gasoline. Excise taxes are often included in the price of the product. There are also excise taxes on activities, such as on wagering or on highway usage by trucks. Excise Tax has several general excise tax programs. One of the major components of the excise program is motor fuel.” http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=99517,00.html
Excises are typically imposed in addition to another indirect tax such as a sales tax or VAT. In common terminology (but not necessarily in law) an excise is distinguished from a sales tax or VAT in three ways: (i) an excise typically applies to a narrower range of products; (ii) an excise is typically heavier, accounting for higher fractions (sometimes half or more) of the retail prices of the targeted products; and (iii) an excise is typically specific (so much per unit of measure; e.g. so many cents per gallon), whereas a sales tax or VAT is ad valorem, i.e. proportional to value (a percentage of the price in the case of a sales tax, or of value added in the case of a VAT).”
Also…I have never heard that “revenue neutral” implies “spending cuts”. Neutral means no change, not a reduction in costs. Please cite an example where a “revenue neutral” proposal necessitated a cut in spending and I may reconsider my position.
It must be a real effort to always make your comments to Post #1 so no one can follow where you’re responding to others on a thread.
Why do you do that all the time???
No, those 2/3 of undecideds are normal everyday people. Folks that haven’t watched a debate, don’t know who Perry is, Cain is, so forth. The 2/3 of people who wait until the very end to decide and get interested in a candidate. I sort of wish I was one of them. I was a 2/3’rder at one time and the world seemed less painful.
I don’t know that Caine wants a bigger government. There is a ton of discussion about his tax plan. I just don’t hear him speak a lot about reducing the size of government. I wish he would.
No way. Polls are meaningless at this stage of the game as the 2008 primaries clearly proved and Perry with his supporters would fight it till the end. Why do not you ask everyone else to leave the campaign so the CRAZIES can coronate Cain the TALKER as the nominee? This is politics, it is hard fighting, it is hard campaigning, we are not going to give up.
If you mean he has never been a poltician, you're correct. We know too much about the "policies" Romney and Perry have enacted, and it doesn't match their current "conservative rhetoric." Haven't you followed the the election cycles over the last 20 years? Don't you get it, yet? RHINO's "talk conservative" only for election purposes, then stick it to the country once they're in!
And Cain is much more than a talker- he's been a CEO and has run businesses, which is how he learned enough life lessons to be a true conservative. He has had the guts to fight the liberal black establishment and stand up and be a conservative openly. He has preached those conservative principles for years on the airwaves here in Atlanta- they are not the newfound rhetoric of Perry and Romney.
I don’t think he wants a bigger one either. But does he plan on a much smaller one is my question and what gets eliminated - this is a major concerned. Does his tax bill include obamacare - does it take into account a down sized gov’t.
He’s is horrible in getting his message out - yet talking is his thing. Time to address the painted rock because it’s against another candidate and gives him a ‘woe is me’ moment. I’m wondering if he thinks he entitled to votes from conservative just because he ‘speaks’ conservatism.
I know more of non candidate Sarah’s view because she always spoke what is good for America. A month or so back I read a thread about him talking about the Inaugural Ball. Amazing - like a child waiting for Christmas.
You trash talk Perry every chance you get. Now you're telling folks to stop doing what you do to other candidates.
I didn’t think Romney had a chance to win a few weeks ago.
Something’s happened around here.
It’s not good.
A certain candidate’s followers have kinda gone round the bend. There was a time when a civil discussion could take place about the relative merits of candidates.
Now, it’s if you don’t like Cain as a nominee you should go straight to the hot place and not pass go.
Cain has finally begun to say some negative things about Romney, but I think he is beginning to think he can get the nomination for himself whereas his first goal was to get Romney to take him as veep.
Right now the forum is so divided that I think Romney could slip in.
I’m not saying people who like Cain shouldn’t support him. That’s fine, but do they have to go crazy in the process.
The RED MEAT crowds love him for giving them all the red meat bumper sticker rhetoric that they want and they do not care about anything else, no governing record to judge him with, no policy he enacted to judge him with, no policy he voted on to judge him with, just his TALK is enough for them. It is very sad and very dangerous, that is how we got Obama.
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