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IBOPE Zogby Poll (Cain 45%, Romney 21%, Rick Perry 7%, Bachmann, 1%)
Zogby ^ | 10/17/11 | Corry Schiermeyer

Posted on 10/17/2011 10:45:03 AM PDT by justsaynomore

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To: Lady Lucky
Anybody who can knock Romney off his perch, is good.

Beautiful plumage!

161 posted on 10/17/2011 5:59:13 PM PDT by 6SJ7 (I'm an AmeriCain!)
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To: justsaynomore
These results are from an IBOPE Zogby interactive poll conducted from Oct. 11-14.

Interactive poll? What were the internals?

162 posted on 10/17/2011 6:13:02 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: cuban leaf; Kartographer

Well it is entirely possible that all the candidates unite against Cain in the attempt to throw this to Romney at the last minute. But some of these folks will have to drop out early, and if you didn’t love Perry or Romney by now, you won’t when your guy or gal drops out. It all depends on how many delegates each person has and how far they go to get them.

I don’t think the party could withstand that kind of crap, though. The Democrats did that to Hillary - they literally took her delegates away from her by changing the rules ex post facto. It almost destroyed the party if Hillary didn’t take the SS position it might have. On the right, with the advent of the TEA Party, there is no way the TEA Party would stay loyal to the GOP if Cain had 45% of the delegates and lost because the hacks united to throw their delegates to Romney.

I think there is sense to a Cain/Newt ticket, with Newt being there to give Gravitas to Cain’s ideas and of course to help the Executive work with Congress. There are few people how to work Congress and Newt is one of the few. I know he is not desired by most social conservatives, there is merit to the idea of this ticket because it help negate the biggest problem Cain faces - lack of experience in politics. And that is what could save the day in the end, both for the nomination and for the White House.


163 posted on 10/17/2011 6:31:15 PM PDT by monkeyshine ( The path of the righteous is beset by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men)
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To: napscoordinator
Bernie Goldberg was on BOR this evening and he was shilling for Romney it was pathetic. He claimed Romney is the only one who could beat 0bama, and if 0bama wins he would know who to blame.

I used like Goldberg, but I am done with him now

164 posted on 10/17/2011 6:35:36 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: napscoordinator

Yes - I have been saying that for a while now. It works. It makes sense. People say Cain lacks political experience to get his idea through a Congress, even a GOP Congress. Well Newt knows how the House works. And as VP he will sit there with all the Senators every day, as President Pro-Tem of the Senate he even gets to use their steam room :-)

Newt gives Cain lots of help in moving his agenda through Congress. It also blunts the criticism that he doesn’t have political experience. It is not his job as president to be a politician. It is his job to lead the nation. Let the VEEP do the politicking for him.


165 posted on 10/17/2011 6:38:37 PM PDT by monkeyshine ( The path of the righteous is beset by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men)
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To: Brookhaven

I was polled on this preference.


166 posted on 10/17/2011 7:05:04 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: monkeyshine

I agree with your posts that Newt could prop up Cain. Only because he would need that very much or he will be trounced the moment his feet hit the washington pavement.

But the more I hear that Cain isn’t laying the “ground work” he needs in the states, such as iowa etc. the more I question is his ultimate plan to run but with the idea he’d be willing to serve in Washington in any capacity they might offer...and that by running he has the visual and platform to be noticed he would not have otherwise.

Either way he would be good for the nation I think....few that disagree IMO.


167 posted on 10/17/2011 7:22:24 PM PDT by caww
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To: justsaynomore

I cannot believe that even 45% or more people think Bama deserves a 2nd term. As to Cain, perhaps but where was Newt in the poll and is Romney still really stuck in the low 20;s. If so, some one other than Mitt will be the nominee unless there is no real front runner and Herm is the flavor of the month. As long as debates go on, the candidates with less money still have a chance to stick around. My guess is and Zog and Ras and Gallup will have to see how this is at the end of the OWS destruction,that Obama’s re-elect numbers will be more like 40%, the Dem numbers that come up in all polls before an election. Supposedly, if an incum is under 50% , he is toast. We shall see if the loons win out over the patriots.


168 posted on 10/17/2011 7:38:17 PM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: rintense
No kidding! One big ' OUCH ! '

Met Perry at Iowa State Fair and asked him to 'not mince words, to just nail it down'.

Oh well. Didn't happen. But, (clearing voice) " It's a grand night for singing, the..." :^)

BEAT OBAMA with a CAIN !!!

169 posted on 10/17/2011 8:02:56 PM PDT by Republic (SO-uhbama sought help from romney MA healthcare authors? DUMP ROMNEY, no way will he kill obamacare.)
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To: napscoordinator

Shall we all discount the poll watchers? Black Panthers with weapons are the coming thing! Wait for November. Black thugs are the DOJ sanctioned new elite! Just ask Eric Holder...


170 posted on 10/17/2011 8:06:35 PM PDT by glock rocks (Wait, what?)
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To: justsaynomore

I AM ‘IN’!!!! GO GO GO!!


171 posted on 10/17/2011 8:36:46 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Herman Cain will be the nominee of the GOP! The momentum is unmistakeable. The Dems/RINOs hate it.)
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To: justsaynomore

I AM ‘IN’!!!! GO GO GO!!


172 posted on 10/17/2011 8:37:01 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Herman Cain will be the nominee of the GOP! The momentum is unmistakeable. The Dems/RINOs hate it.)
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To: glock rocks

Cain is definitely improving, but these Zogby poll numbers are an outlier.

Cain is the “October Rocket”
Perry was the “September Rocket”
Bachman was the “August Rocket”

Romney is the “turtoise”

Love Cain, but I don’t think he can beat Obama. He will be “Palinized” during the General Election if he gets the Repub nod.

2012 election is about ONE thing, and ONE thing only.... who do Americans think is most competent to get us out of this mess. They really don’t think Obama can. But the republican candidate has to be perceived as competent to fix the problems. This 2012 race will not be about pure ideology for most Americans. It will not be a minutia that we political junkies bat around all day. It will be simple. Who can fix this mess? Is the republican better qualified than Obama.

Cain would be great. But most Americans realized they hired a rookie in Obama. I am afraid they will see Cain as the new republican rookie.


173 posted on 10/17/2011 8:39:15 PM PDT by gswilder
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To: gswilder

I don’t agree that Cain’s a rookie. I believe the more the lamestream calls him pizza boy or Godfather whatever, they’ll seal in the fact that he is a successful businesman and CEO material. He can kick the community agitator’s ass around the block without breaking a sweat. It’s not the left we need fret about... it’s the lame old stupid party’s elite that will torpedo Cain. They’re every bit as corrupt as the dems, and they have to cover their turf. Nobody gonna clean up Dodge on my watch!

Should be interesting.


174 posted on 10/17/2011 8:50:06 PM PDT by glock rocks (Wait, what?)
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To: gswilder
He will be “Palinized” during the General Election if he gets the Repub nod.

Sounds like a good way of adding to Cain's black vote. Blacks with decent, non-government jobs are not happy with Obama. Add a Cain-bashing MSM and Cain may get 40% of the black vote.

175 posted on 10/17/2011 8:51:36 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: justsaynomore

From the fall of 2007;

The USA Today/Gallup poll of 1,012 adults showed Clinton’s support at 48 percent among Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents, versus 26 percent for Obama. Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards’ support was at 12 percent.

USA Today reported on Tuesday the data showed Clinton advancing 8 percentage points and Obama falling 2 points from polling results from last month.

In a head-to-head matchup, the poll showed Clinton besting Obama 59 percent to 36 percent.

Among Republicans, polling data showed former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani at 33 percent, former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson at 21 percent, Arizona Sen. John McCain at 16 percent and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney at 8 percent.


176 posted on 10/17/2011 9:04:10 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: justsaynomore; mnehring; MestaMachine; LucyT

As an added treat, Cut and Run RuPaul is finished!

=o)


177 posted on 10/17/2011 9:12:27 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul er.Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Excellent post!


178 posted on 10/17/2011 9:36:44 PM PDT by glock rocks (Wait, what?)
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To: napscoordinator
This is better than I dreamed of.

Cain is going to be the next President of the United States.

Boy we dodge a RINO bullet with Romney and Perry.

Thank God for Cain!!!!!!

President Herman Cain 2012.

What an incredible day January 2013 will be on a crisp day for the Swearing In.....God is good to us!!!!!

What you said....ditto that.

179 posted on 10/17/2011 9:56:04 PM PDT by spokeshave (Obama's ratings are so low...Kenyans accuse him of being born in the USA,)
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To: justsaynomore
Ladies and gentlemen, it's looking like we have a candidate.

God help him!
180 posted on 10/17/2011 10:03:45 PM PDT by Antoninus (Take the pledge: I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. EVER.)
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